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Reply #30 posted 03/20/17 7:15am

Dasein

RicoN said:

Dasein said:


I find theological claims utterly fascinating; it's intellectual poetry and I can't get enough of it. That
being said, it doesn't mean I take all of its claims literally.

But you've raised a false equivalence; we all know that Superman and Spiderman are comic book
characters. Yet, there are reasons to believe that a character named Jesus of Nazareth lived in
Palestine two thousand years ago and was crucified for pissing off the Sanhedrin.



Without going into all the 'is jesus real' thing, there's no more genuine proof of Superman than there is of Jesus. I think it's a decent comparison, fictional character in a book, sent to save the inhabitants of earth.


No, you're mistaken here.

There is more probability that Jesus of Nazareth existed than there is that Clark Kent/Kal-El actually
existed and was not the creation of Jerry Siegel's imagination; I know for a fact that Superman
is the product of Jerry Siegel's imagination. But I don't know for a fact that Jesus of Nazareth
didn't exist. Don't confuse Jesus of Nazareth's historicity with the christological claims made about
him, which is precisely what you're doing here.


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Reply #31 posted 03/20/17 7:25am

RicoN

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Dasein said:

RicoN said:



Without going into all the 'is jesus real' thing, there's no more genuine proof of Superman than there is of Jesus. I think it's a decent comparison, fictional character in a book, sent to save the inhabitants of earth.


No, you're mistaken here.

There is more probability that Jesus of Nazareth existed than there is that Clark Kent/Kal-El actually
existed and was not the creation of Jerry Siegel's imagination; I know for a fact that Superman
is the product of Jerry Siegel's imagination. But I don't know for a fact that Jesus of Nazareth
didn't exist. Don't confuse Jesus of Nazareth's historicity with the christological claims made about
him, which is precisely what you're doing here.




There is no historicy to Jesus of Nazareth.

perhaps a comparison you'd be more comfortable with is Robin Hood?

[Edited 3/20/17 7:27am]

Yes, I've probably made a spelling mistake, but I can't be arsed to go back and correc tit.
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Reply #32 posted 03/20/17 7:42am

Dasein

RicoN said:

Dasein said:


No, you're mistaken here.

There is more probability that Jesus of Nazareth existed than there is that Clark Kent/Kal-El actually
existed and was not the creation of Jerry Siegel's imagination; I know for a fact that Superman
is the product of Jerry Siegel's imagination. But I don't know for a fact that Jesus of Nazareth
didn't exist. Don't confuse Jesus of Nazareth's historicity with the christological claims made about
him, which is precisely what you're doing here.




There is no historicy to Jesus of Nazareth.



Start your own thread, Rico. I'm not saying that in order to ignore you but I want to be con-
sistent with the thread's goals. There is a chance that Jesus of Nazareth didn't exist, but you'll
have to substantiate the claim with credible sources and arguments better than Superman and
Robin Hood comparisons!





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Reply #33 posted 03/20/17 7:54am

RicoN

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Dasein said:

RicoN said:



There is no historicy to Jesus of Nazareth.



Start your own thread, Rico. I'm not saying that in order to ignore you but I want to be con-
sistent with the thread's goals. There is a chance that Jesus of Nazareth didn't exist, but you'll
have to substantiate the claim with credible sources and arguments better than Superman and
Robin Hood comparisons!







I know, it's a thread hijack! I'll stop, but someone needs to come to me with actual proof he did, not the other way round smile (You should have said there is a chance he did exist too)

PS: Robin Hood is a good example, the myth is a composite of stories and legends at the time rolled into one dashing hero, whose mission is to defeat the evil overlords and to save the poor. There's even a bit or redistribution in there! Sounds like the probable genesis of the Jesus character.

And, as always, there are no credible soures for the existence of Jesus, that's where the burden of proof lies smile

I'll stop now!

[Edited 3/20/17 8:00am]

Yes, I've probably made a spelling mistake, but I can't be arsed to go back and correc tit.
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