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Thread started 01/09/17 10:39pm

TRUECRISTIAN

civil war

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Reply #1 posted 01/09/17 10:40pm

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Reply #3 posted 01/09/17 10:44pm

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Some Mainers broke racial barriers in ‘white’ state regiment

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Reply #6 posted 01/10/17 4:10am

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Does a true christian accept there is no evidence whatsoever of the existence of either God or Jesus?

Or does the true bit not stretch as far as being true with themselves?

Yes, I've probably made a spelling mistake, but I can't be arsed to go back and correc tit.
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Reply #7 posted 01/10/17 7:15am

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RicoN said:

Does a true christian accept there is no evidence whatsoever of the existence of either God or Jesus?

Or does the true bit not stretch as far as being true with themselves?



Rico, let me tell you something about debating religion:

No one will ever change anyone else's beliefs.

You can put forth 10,000 arguments that there is no God. You will never change my mind, or any other believer's mind.

I can put forth 10,000 arguments that there is a God. But I know for a dead-certain fact I am not going to change your mind.

All I can do is tell you what I believe. But there is no possible way I can make you believe what I believe. And vice versa.

Now, you can continue to bait all you want. Maybe you get off on conflict. But if you've tried to derail this thread in an attempt to get people away from belief, you might as well know up front that will never happen.

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Reply #8 posted 01/10/17 7:28am

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RicoN said:

Does a true christian accept there is no evidence whatsoever of the existence of either God or Jesus?

Or does the true bit not stretch as far as being true with themselves?

First there is evidence of Jesus. At least there are records of that person. So that is something.

Second: you seem to be creating a massive fallacy in your argument. You say there is no evidence whatsoever. That is very close to assuming there is and never was any such thing as God or Jesus--something that no evidence of can exist. It is not exactly the same as saying "God's existence can not be proven" but it is close.


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Reply #9 posted 01/10/17 11:25am

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God is invisible but he is clothed by the world.

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Reply #10 posted 01/11/17 7:25am

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Now, you can continue to bait all you want. Maybe you get off on conflict. But if you've tried to derail this thread in an attempt to get people away from belief, you might as well know up front that will never happen.

What is this thread? A pictorial of the Civil War using lithographs and one (really great) photo. What else?

Peace is more than the absence of war.
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Reply #11 posted 01/11/17 9:36am

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purplepoppy said:

RodeoSchro said:


Now, you can continue to bait all you want. Maybe you get off on conflict. But if you've tried to derail this thread in an attempt to get people away from belief, you might as well know up front that will never happen.

What is this thread? A pictorial of the Civil War using lithographs and one (really great) photo. What else?



See reply #6 for the troll bait statements about God.

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Reply #12 posted 01/11/17 9:43am

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purplepoppy said:

What is this thread? A pictorial of the Civil War using lithographs and one (really great) photo. What else?



See reply #6 for the troll bait statements about God.

I saw that and I'm not getting into any God stuff. Poster's names are their choice. My question is what is this thread supposed to be about in the first place beside pics of "civil war"?

Peace is more than the absence of war.
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Reply #13 posted 01/11/17 3:16pm

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God is invisible but he is clothed by the world.

Sounds beautiful, but what the hell does that mean?

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Reply #14 posted 01/11/17 3:24pm

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Back on topic ...

This is a great video of the Civil War:


"As a team, we have chosen to stand and interlock arms in unity. We honor those who have fought for the freedom we cherish. And we stand to ensure the riches and freedom and the security of justice for all people." --- Doug Baldwin
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Reply #15 posted 01/11/17 10:04pm

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Does a true christian accept there is no evidence whatsoever of the existence of either God or Jesus?

Or does the true bit not stretch as far as being true with themselves?

It is scientifically impossible for Nature to have made itself, or for it to be eternal.

Consider the following two scientific facts:

  • Natural selection can only act upon the genetic potential that already exists. What we do observe from natural selection fits perfectly with a recent creation, and doesnot point to common descent.
  • Any test designed to confirm Darwinism has an alternate and equally viable explanation. A theory requires that the confirming experiments correspond to one specific hypothesis. Otherwise, the experiment cannot establish legitimacy. Evolution has no such legitimacy.


What does the Bible say?

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them;
for God hath shewed [it] unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made,
[even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse
Romans 1:18-20

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Reply #16 posted 01/11/17 10:08pm

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Reply #18 posted 01/12/17 7:22am

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TRUECRISTIAN said:

RicoN said:

Does a true christian accept there is no evidence whatsoever of the existence of either God or Jesus?

Or does the true bit not stretch as far as being true with themselves?

It is scientifically impossible for Nature to have made itself, or for it to be eternal.

Consider the following two scientific facts:

  • Natural selection can only act upon the genetic potential that already exists. What we do observe from natural selection fits perfectly with a recent creation, and doesnot point to common descent.
  • Any test designed to confirm Darwinism has an alternate and equally viable explanation. A theory requires that the confirming experiments correspond to one specific hypothesis. Otherwise, the experiment cannot establish legitimacy. Evolution has no such legitimacy.


What does the Bible say?

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them;
for God hath shewed [it] unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made,
[even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse
Romans 1:18-20



it is scientifically impossible for god to have made herself.

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  • Natural selection can only act upon the genetic potential that already exists. What we do observe from natural selection fits perfectly with a recent creation, and doesnot point to common descent.

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when ty usay that are you saying there is only a (practical) finite amount of variation of the genetic code? Where you use the word creation, I think you mean mutation. Mutations are governed by chance (I imagine, I'm not a geneticist) and don't really have anyrelation to whatever y umean by common descent.


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  • Any test designed to confirm Darwinism has an alternate and equally viable explanation. A theory requires that the confirming experiments correspond to one specific hypothesis. Otherwise, the experiment cannot establish legitimacy. Evolution has no such legitimacy.



I'm not really sure whay you mean by Darwinism, are yo ureferring to his theory of evolution, or are yu refering to evolution itself? There aren't any tests I'mm aware of, just an ever mounting body of evidence pointing the way to the fact that evolution is real.



and who gives a fuck what the bible says? Parts of it are over 2000 years old and it is utterly redundant in relation to modern science

Yes, I've probably made a spelling mistake, but I can't be arsed to go back and correc tit.
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Reply #19 posted 01/12/17 10:01am

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RicoN said:

TRUECRISTIAN said:




and who gives a fuck what the bible says? Parts of it are over 2000 years old and it is utterly redundant in relation to modern science

Just slipped in this thread to bold and emphasize this. lol

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Reply #20 posted 01/12/17 11:51am

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Rico knows nothing.

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Reply #21 posted 01/12/17 11:51am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Rico knows nothing.

Ad hominem attacks don't do anything to further your position.

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Reply #22 posted 01/12/17 1:18pm

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