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Reply #120 posted 01/09/17 8:21pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

Why does it matter how you look?

Ask the people that are banning braids.


Most hotels will not hire black folks that have braids, dreadlocks, gold teeth, and/or too many tattoos.

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Reply #121 posted 01/09/17 9:49pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

ok. I see wild looking white people having pretty good jobs.


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Reply #122 posted 01/09/17 10:32pm

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Maybe, just maybe (I'm speculating here...) nobody comes up with a good idea because the problem is only percieved by a relative small amount of people and the majority just doesn't give a flying fuck?

There simply is no urgency, no burning platform.

And maybe that 'minority' is shouting extremely loud to make the problem appear to be bigger then it actually is. And by doing so and by pointing fingers (forcing to make people feel guilty) get exactly the opposite of what they're 'fighting' for ?

I mean, there will always be people/peers who will do better then others in the same environment. Growing up under the same conditions, with the same chances to develop.
And from those who did not succeed, there will always be some who blame others or other things for their 'failure' instead of hold themselves accountable for their own lack of success. There will always be people who see themselves as victim of a system, regardless of colour.

It should be about what YOU do with YOUR life.
If you think that you're victim of white supremacy, why not move to somwhere this white supremacy does not exist?
You're not forced to live in the US, if you don't like it, go to somwhere else. Nigeria has a booming economy, I hear.

Only you can change what makes you unhappy. Don't wait for others to do it for you because that won't happen!

Admission that white privilege exists, has nothing to do with making anyone feel guilty, it's the fact that it was created in this country, through a system of racism, by a specific group to intentionally benefit that group, while knowingly denying those same privileges that includes better, human treatment based in he color of one's skin or belonging to a specific racial group. Many in that group that white privilege benefits, knowingly mistreat others who don't represent that group, and those who are mistreated have a right to expose that inhamane mistreatment, and disrespect. So it's not a matter of making whites privilege beneficiaries feel guilty, it's about raising the issue of unfair treatment towards those based in their race. Most of the people in the vid, admit the difference of how much better they are treated in society, and the advantages they have, based on their skin color, compared to the treatment of many non-whites. They are exposing 'America's dirty little secret', that many whites try to deny, and many have seen and still see that type of denial by some white orgers here. Truth is whites privilege exists, and because non-whites expose it and recognize that it does, does not mean they are forcing 'white guilt' on those who benefit from it. The exposure and basis for raising awareness of unfair, human treatment to others.


May I say that I think you have a limited knowledge of what's going on in the world outside the US?

You realy should go to places like Qatar, Abu Dhabi and other gulf states.
There you can witness slavery first hand. And it's not white folks mistreating blacks.
Black arabs benefit from (mainly) asians (China, India & Bangladesh) and knowingly deny them the same privileges that includes better human treatment.

http://fortune.com/2016/03/31/qatar-world-cup-workers/

People are being exploited by other people everywhere and any time in history.

Even right under my eyes, here in the Netherlands.
An Irish company, Atlanco Rimec, was in charge of building new freeway tunnels under the city of Maastricht. They were found to exploit their workers, mainly from Portugal and Poland.
And not only in the Netherlands, but they also did that at construction projects in the UK, Sweden and Denmark.

http://www.rabble.ie/2014/07/15/atlanco-rimec/

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Reply #123 posted 01/10/17 5:18am

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Reply #124 posted 01/10/17 11:27am

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They are not guilty.

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Reply #125 posted 01/10/17 2:37pm

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TweetyV6 said:



2elijah said:


TweetyV6 said:



Maybe, just maybe (I'm speculating here...) nobody comes up with a good idea because the problem is only percieved by a relative small amount of people and the majority just doesn't give a flying fuck?

There simply is no urgency, no burning platform.

And maybe that 'minority' is shouting extremely loud to make the problem appear to be bigger then it actually is. And by doing so and by pointing fingers (forcing to make people feel guilty) get exactly the opposite of what they're 'fighting' for ?

I mean, there will always be people/peers who will do better then others in the same environment. Growing up under the same conditions, with the same chances to develop.
And from those who did not succeed, there will always be some who blame others or other things for their 'failure' instead of hold themselves accountable for their own lack of success. There will always be people who see themselves as victim of a system, regardless of colour.

It should be about what YOU do with YOUR life.
If you think that you're victim of white supremacy, why not move to somwhere this white supremacy does not exist?
You're not forced to live in the US, if you don't like it, go to somwhere else. Nigeria has a booming economy, I hear.

Only you can change what makes you unhappy. Don't wait for others to do it for you because that won't happen!



Admission that white privilege exists, has nothing to do with making anyone feel guilty, it's the fact that it was created in this country, through a system of racism, by a specific group to intentionally benefit that group, while knowingly denying those same privileges that includes better, human treatment based in he color of one's skin or belonging to a specific racial group. Many in that group that white privilege benefits, knowingly mistreat others who don't represent that group, and those who are mistreated have a right to expose that inhamane mistreatment, and disrespect. So it's not a matter of making whites privilege beneficiaries feel guilty, it's about raising the issue of unfair treatment towards those based in their race. Most of the people in the vid, admit the difference of how much better they are treated in society, and the advantages they have, based on their skin color, compared to the treatment of many non-whites. They are exposing 'America's dirty little secret', that many whites try to deny, and many have seen and still see that type of denial by some white orgers here. Truth is whites privilege exists, and because non-whites expose it and recognize that it does, does not mean they are forcing 'white guilt' on those who benefit from it. The exposure and basis for raising awareness of unfair, human treatment to others.


May I say that I think you have a limited knowledge of what's going on in the world outside the US?

You realy should go to places like Qatar, Abu Dhabi and other gulf states.
There you can witness slavery first hand. And it's not white folks mistreating blacks.
Black arabs benefit from (mainly) asians (China, India & Bangladesh) and knowingly deny them the same privileges that includes better human treatment.

http://fortune.com/2016/03/31/qatar-world-cup-workers/

People are being exploited by other people everywhere and any time in history.

Even right under my eyes, here in the Netherlands.
An Irish company, Atlanco Rimec, was in charge of building new freeway tunnels under the city of Maastricht. They were found to exploit their workers, mainly from Portugal and Poland.
And not only in the Netherlands, but they also did that at construction projects in the UK, Sweden and Denmark.

http://www.rabble.ie/2014/07/15/atlanco-rimec/



You should never assume without asking, that I have not traveled outside the U.S. Why would you assume I never did? Lol. I am very aware that slavery still exists in the world, as well as abuses, against humans, but this topic is about white privilege, and yes, that exists outside of America as well.

No, I have not been to an Arab country, and don't have to travel outside of America to be aware that many abuses against humans exists. But the topic seems to be centered around white privilege in America, and the participants in the vid are sharing their reality, awareness, and experiences with it.
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Reply #126 posted 01/10/17 3:01pm

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Gods of Egypt comes to mind. I hope thats the last of the African country but caucasian cast film that ever comes out all the backlash they got. Sick of seeing that shit.

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Reply #127 posted 01/10/17 3:06pm

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As long as Egypt doesn't prove that blacks are superior. The whole nubian mess. Ancient Kemet and Kush and such. You all didn't think I was hip to that?

We all evolved from our ancient African ancestor, which means an African is our mom.

2Elijah, we are kin.

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Reply #128 posted 01/12/17 7:52am

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2freaky4church1 said:

As long as Egypt doesn't prove that blacks are superior. The whole nubian mess. Ancient Kemet and Kush and such. You all didn't think I was hip to that?



We all evolved from our ancient African ancestor, which means an African is our mom.



2Elijah, we are kin.


What? So because Ancient Blacks existed in Egypt, how is that saying Blacks are superior? Nubian history is not a 'mess'. They existed.No human is superior based on skin color. They are all born from the same human race. It was whites in America, who designed that racist bs, ideology about white supremacy to give themselves power over other ethnic groups, and that ideology spread throughout the globe. They brainwashed their own group. The truth if that matter is that white people come from the same human race as Africans/Blacks. It's hilarious though, when you see white supremacist followers believing that ignorant, racist lie about white supremacy, and it's all a lie. They'd probably freak the f**k out when if told the truth. Lol.
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Reply #129 posted 01/13/17 6:08am

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The whole "white guilt" thing is pointless IMO. Stereotyping of ANY sort is unacceptable.

What REALLY needs to be addressed is the fact that a European immigrant can step off the boat (or airplane) TODAY and, because of the color of his/her skin, will be considered more "American" than the Amerindian, African-American or Chicano who can trace their roots to this country going back countless generations. This is why the Obama presidence is so reviled by certain people...the "normalization" of a person of color in a position of utmost power erodes their feelings of superiority based on nothing but the color of their skin (or lack thereof).

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Reply #130 posted 01/13/17 6:49am

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PurpleJedi said:

The whole "white guilt" thing is pointless IMO. Stereotyping of ANY sort is unacceptable.

What REALLY needs to be addressed is the fact that a European immigrant can step off the boat (or airplane) TODAY and, because of the color of his/her skin, will be considered more "American" than the Amerindian, African-American or Chicano who can trace their roots to this country going back countless generations. This is why the Obama presidence is so reviled by certain people...the "normalization" of a person of color in a position of utmost power erodes their feelings of superiority based on nothing but the color of their skin (or lack thereof).


Holy isht... clapping if that is not the harsh and ugly truth. That's why trump and many white conservatives and repubs lost their isht. They could not handle a man of color being President in a country that early, white European immigrants tried to claim as their own, after they stole it from the Native Americans. And you're right, Africans were doing trade with the Native Americans in this country, before early Europeans came in on ships from Europe to live here, and before the transatlantic slavectrade took place.
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Reply #131 posted 01/13/17 8:12am

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The whole "white guilt" thing is pointless IMO. Stereotyping of ANY sort is unacceptable.

What REALLY needs to be addressed is the fact that a European immigrant can step off the boat (or airplane) TODAY and, because of the color of his/her skin, will be considered more "American" than the Amerindian, African-American or Chicano who can trace their roots to this country going back countless generations. This is why the Obama presidence is so reviled by certain people...the "normalization" of a person of color in a position of utmost power erodes their feelings of superiority based on nothing but the color of their skin (or lack thereof).

And this is why they have to repeal the ACA when they have NOTHING to replace it with. They started calling it Obamacare to discredit him. He finally embraced the name cause he didn't have much choice. They can't stand that he got anything through and "have" to remove it. Talk about a whitewash. Of course the repealers all have free single payer healthcare on our dime. Any reasonable "servant of the people" would tweak what's there.

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Reply #132 posted 01/13/17 8:43am

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The benefits one gets for simply being white is not something anyone who may benefit from said "White privilege" ought to feel...anyway about. There is nothing to feel guilty over. One should (if they are being rational) only feel guilty over things they have power over.

what one ought to do is be aware of it and try to make sure that they do not perpetuate the situation.

To me, it seems some of the people in the video suffering from a self-imposed white guilt have other issues they may want to address with a professional.

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Reply #133 posted 01/13/17 8:59am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

The benefits one gets for simply being white is not something anyone who may benefit from said "White privilege" ought to feel...anyway about. There is nothing to feel guilty over. One should (if they are being rational) only feel guilty over things they have power over.

what one ought to do is be aware of it and try to make sure that they do not perpetuate the situation.

To me, it seems some of the people in the video suffering from a self-imposed white guilt have other issues they may want to address with a professional.




Like what? Not all of them stated they felt any guilt. They were basically acknowledging that white privilege exists and recognize that they benefit from it.
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Reply #134 posted 01/13/17 9:08am

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2elijah said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

The benefits one gets for simply being white is not something anyone who may benefit from said "White privilege" ought to feel...anyway about. There is nothing to feel guilty over. One should (if they are being rational) only feel guilty over things they have power over.

what one ought to do is be aware of it and try to make sure that they do not perpetuate the situation.

To me, it seems some of the people in the video suffering from a self-imposed white guilt have other issues they may want to address with a professional.

Like what? Not all of them stated they felt any guilt. They were basically acknowledging that white privilege exists and recognize that they benefit from it.

Exactly........what video did he watch?

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Reply #135 posted 01/13/17 9:38am

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2elijah said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

The benefits one gets for simply being white is not something anyone who may benefit from said "White privilege" ought to feel...anyway about. There is nothing to feel guilty over. One should (if they are being rational) only feel guilty over things they have power over.

what one ought to do is be aware of it and try to make sure that they do not perpetuate the situation.

To me, it seems some of the people in the video suffering from a self-imposed white guilt have other issues they may want to address with a professional.

Like what? Not all of them stated they felt any guilt. They were basically acknowledging that white privilege exists and recognize that they benefit from it.

but some of them did say they felt bad or guilty or whatever...but i did watch this last week so... but i am sure some of them said had guilt and didn't one say he was ashamed of being white?

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Reply #136 posted 01/13/17 9:41am

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Graycap23 said:

2elijah said:

OnlyNDaUsa said: Like what? Not all of them stated they felt any guilt. They were basically acknowledging that white privilege exists and recognize that they benefit from it.

Exactly........what video did he watch?

are you saying no one in the clip express guilt or shame or regret for being white?

in this case, I have an advantage over you 2elijah as you can no more know what it is to be white than I can to be black

So my post was spot on... if it went over both of your heads that is not my issue. It is odd that I often come into these and am open and I get besmirched.

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Reply #137 posted 01/13/17 9:54am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Graycap23 said:

Exactly........what video did he watch?

are you saying no one in the clip express guilt or shame or regret for being white?

in this case, I have an advantage over you 2elijah as you can no more know what it is to be white than I can to be black

So my post was spot on... if it went over both of your heads that is not my issue. It is odd that I often come into these and am open and I get besmirched.

I am saying they admitted to the world of whiteness in an unfiltered manner.

U are free to use any labels that u wish and just don't agree with u.

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Reply #138 posted 01/13/17 9:58am

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Graycap23 said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

are you saying no one in the clip express guilt or shame or regret for being white?

in this case, I have an advantage over you 2elijah as you can no more know what it is to be white than I can to be black

So my post was spot on... if it went over both of your heads that is not my issue. It is odd that I often come into these and am open and I get besmirched.

I am saying they admitted to the world of whiteness in an unfiltered manner.

U are free to use any labels that u wish and just don't agree with u.

and they had no active part in creating that world and unless they are doing stuff to keep it going then they have nothing at all to feel bad about.

I am not sure what you mean about my use of labels? I am simply what was it....replying to the clip in an unfiltered manner.

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Reply #139 posted 01/13/17 5:23pm

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UncleJam said:

I dont think it's guilt that white folks should feel...they should just be a bit more UNDERSTANDING of where a lot of minorities ill feelings towards white folks come from.

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Reply #140 posted 01/13/17 5:56pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Graycap23 said:

It isn't a question of guilt....it is a question of awareness..........and taking steps to make things better if possible.


I've been aware. I only have reasonable doubts about our [dis]respected negative critics due to their past AND present history of being naive.

or just not giving a damn

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Reply #141 posted 01/13/17 11:40pm

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THAT^ is exactly what we need in 2017. We need more white folks in North America to admit their guilt, not white guilt, but human guilt in general. nod

No, white people don't have to admit anyting, The African-American / Black community needs to cease, begging, groveling, whining and get about the business of getting white people feet out of our assess and off our necks. Like me! Understand me! Love me! Understand what you done to us! We have a history, and nothing has changed in many respects, it just transformed. On the last page of poet, educator, publisher, and writer Haki Madhubuti ground breaking 1990 book, "Young Black men; Young Black and Dangerous?"


Mr Madhubuti wrote, Do I think all whyte people are racist, evil, bad and corrupt? No, but those who are, are clearly in the majority and are the ones who hold power and determine the future of my children and my neighbors’s children. The oppressed in the United States have the unusual quality of looking evil in the eye and denying its existence. This quality is not genetic, it is learned. To be part of an oppressed culture is to be hidden from knowledge, from knowing.




The Black community needs to stop lying to themselves and our children... its the main reason why too many of our children are aimless and some are acting foolishly.

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Reply #142 posted 01/14/17 3:44am

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They are not guilty.

At the peak of black slavery in the South, only 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves. If you include the white people in the North, it means that only 1.4 percent of white Americans owned black slaves at the HEIGHT of slavery. An estimated 3,000 blacks owned a total of 20,000 black slaves in the year 1860.

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Per Google only 1.4% of white Amerians owned slaves. Why don't they teach that in school?

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At the peak of black slavery in the South, only 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves. If you include the white people in the North, it means that only 1.4 percent of white Americans owned black slaves at the HEIGHT of slavery. An estimated 3,000 blacks owned a total of 20,000 black slaves in the year 1860.

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Per Google only 1.4% of white Amerians owned slaves. Why don't they teach that in school?


They taught it in school back in the day, but now they DON'T WANT kids to know the truth. It doesn't fit the whole "all white people are racists just like their slave owning ancestors" lie that has been going on for decades now.

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Reply #144 posted 01/14/17 4:46am

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2freaky4church1 said:


They are not guilty.




At the peak of black slavery in the South, only 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves. If you include the white people in the North, it means that only 1.4 percent of white Americans owned black slaves at the HEIGHT of slavery. An estimated 3,000 blacks owned a total of 20,000 black slaves in the year 1860.


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Per Google only 1.4% of white Amerians owned slaves. Why don't they teach that in school?



None of that justifies the abuses white slave owners did to slaves, and the laws they made for Black slaves, and post-slavery Blacks. You have over 12 million Blacks in America walking around with European surnames. It's pretty clear how most of them got those names, if we want to take a trip back to America's history of slavery to find out how. The damage that has been done in the past has been through the lies of white supremacy teachings.

Whites owned white slaves even before the South American/Central American slave trade, and the Transatlantic slave trade. The white slaves owned by Blacks were indentured and a small number. White slaves still had more freedom than Black slaves. On another note, there were more African slaves in the Caribbean than in this country, so white supremacist teachings made its way in the Caribbean as well, where many European slave owners reaped the benefits from the sufferings of the Africans and Amerindians they enslaved. Including the many Native Americans, who stood up against whites in North America, and were transported there, to work as slaves on the plantations.
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Reply #145 posted 01/14/17 5:29am

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2elijah said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

At the peak of black slavery in the South, only 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves. If you include the white people in the North, it means that only 1.4 percent of white Americans owned black slaves at the HEIGHT of slavery. An estimated 3,000 blacks owned a total of 20,000 black slaves in the year 1860.

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Per Google only 1.4% of white Amerians owned slaves. Why don't they teach that in school?

None of that justifies the abuses whites did to slaves, and the laws they made for Black slaves, and post-slavery Blacks. Whites owned white slaves before the South American/Central American slave trade and Transatlantic slave trade. The white slaves owned by Blacks were indentured. White slaves still had more freedom than Black slaves. On top of that, there were more African slaves in the Caribbean than in this country. Also the way many whites would get rid of Native Americans, who stood up against them during the early arrival of European immigrants, they would transport to the Caribbean. [Edited 1/14/17 5:08am]

True just makes you wonder what the other 98.6% were doing? Did they have welfare back then?

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Reply #146 posted 01/14/17 5:43am

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2elijah said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

At the peak of black slavery in the South, only 6 percent of Southern whites owned slaves. If you include the white people in the North, it means that only 1.4 percent of white Americans owned black slaves at the HEIGHT of slavery. An estimated 3,000 blacks owned a total of 20,000 black slaves in the year 1860.

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Per Google only 1.4% of white Amerians owned slaves. Why don't they teach that in school?

None of that justifies the abuses whites did to slaves, and the laws they made for Black slaves, and post-slavery Blacks. Whites owned white slaves before the South American/Central American slave trade and Transatlantic slave trade. The white slaves owned by Blacks were indentured. White slaves still had more freedom than Black slaves.


Oh... Let's put that in a more current context.


Of all muslimss, only a handfull are terrorists killing people. But if someone says: It's about islam and muslims, then all kind of people jump up to shout... No! It's not all muslims, it's only a couple of muslim extremists.

But if it's only 1.4% of whites who had (black) slaves, then it's all right to point your finger at ALL whites?

2elijah said:

European immigrants, they would transport to the Caribbean.


After they were bought from Arabic North African slave traders.

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Reply #147 posted 01/14/17 6:16am

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In 1730 the capital of slavery in America was New York City. Estimated that 42% of households owned slaves. That's why there was an African Burying Ground found when they dug up Foley Square in 1990. Estimated tens of thousands of graves. People still wrongly blame only the South for slavery.

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300 years is 15 generations of people at 20 years per generation. That is a long long time.

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Reply #148 posted 01/14/17 7:45am

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A bit off the rails............non of these recent comments ahve to do with the actual TOPIC.

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Reply #149 posted 01/14/17 8:20am

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Unmasking the world of whiteness in America means the South is considered "worse" than the North, see above posts. This is a false pecking order Southern whites do not like.

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