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Dylann Roof guilty on all charges

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Charleston, South Carolina (CNN)A jury has found Dylann Roof guilty of all 33 federal charges he faced after last year's massacre at a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina.

In the next phase of the trial, scheduled to begin in January, jurors will weigh whether Roof, 22, should be sentenced to death or spend the rest of his life in prison.




http://www.cnn.com/2016/1...index.html


CNN is saying the defence case was all about avoiding the death penalty.




This is some much needed justice in a system all too often that seems to let some people get away with murder.

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Reply #1 posted 12/15/16 1:58pm

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And Nikki Haley wrote on FB, " It is my hope that the survivors, the families, and the people of South Carolina can find some peace in the fact that justice has been served." In this situation, I think we can find peace of mind and heart in knowing that justice was served.

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Reply #2 posted 12/15/16 2:07pm

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Great burn that piece of hit alive.

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Reply #3 posted 12/15/16 2:07pm

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Good! On to the penalty phase. I oppose the death penalty because I believe it is unfairly imposed on people of color. Occasionally, I think just fry em and get it over with. Roof is such a person.
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Reply #4 posted 12/15/16 2:24pm

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Death by firing squad.

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Reply #5 posted 12/15/16 4:02pm

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This crime was horrible and a hate crime. But I don't think this kid was a white supremacist. He just was a victim of a fucked up life. Read about it here:

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0

I feel the same way about him as I do about all the 22 year old black men killing each other in the inner cities of the U.S. (Chicago with 700 murders this year and Baltimore with 300) I mean, are these kids pieces of shit too? No. They are all products of a fucked up family life. Ever read about Charles Manson's childhood?

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Reply #6 posted 12/15/16 4:27pm

214

3rdeyedude said:

This crime was horrible and a hate crime. But I don't think this kid was a white supremacist. He just was a victim of a fucked up life. Read about it here:

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0

I feel the same way about him as I do about all the 22 year old black men killing each other in the inner cities of the U.S. (Chicago with 700 murders this year and Baltimore with 300) I mean, are these kids pieces of shit too? No. They are all products of a fucked up family life. Ever read about Charles Manson's childhood?

Please don't come with that shit, who cares what a mess his life was, even so, he did not have any right to do that.

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Reply #7 posted 12/15/16 4:38pm

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214 said:

3rdeyedude said:

This crime was horrible and a hate crime. But I don't think this kid was a white supremacist. He just was a victim of a fucked up life. Read about it here:

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0

I feel the same way about him as I do about all the 22 year old black men killing each other in the inner cities of the U.S. (Chicago with 700 murders this year and Baltimore with 300) I mean, are these kids pieces of shit too? No. They are all products of a fucked up family life. Ever read about Charles Manson's childhood?

Please don't come with that shit, who cares what a mess his life was, even so, he did not have any right to do that.

I guess everyone I mentioned above are all pieces of shit in your opinion. But that is not my opinion. So don't come with your tired bullshit.

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Reply #8 posted 12/15/16 4:40pm

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3rdeyedude said:

This crime was horrible and a hate crime. But I don't think this kid was a white supremacist. He just was a victim of a fucked up life. Read about it here:



http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0



I feel the same way about him as I do about all the 22 year old black men killing each other in the inner cities of the U.S. (Chicago with 700 murders this year and Baltimore with 300) I mean, are these kids pieces of shit too? No. They are all products of a fucked up family life. Ever read about Charles Manson's childhood?





What? You must be kidding. None of the people you named in the above post are victims aside from the 1000 people that were killed. They all deserve the death penalty unless the killed someone in self defense. I can't believe this mindset exists.
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Reply #9 posted 12/15/16 4:46pm

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derrick31 said:

3rdeyedude said:

This crime was horrible and a hate crime. But I don't think this kid was a white supremacist. He just was a victim of a fucked up life. Read about it here:

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0

I feel the same way about him as I do about all the 22 year old black men killing each other in the inner cities of the U.S. (Chicago with 700 murders this year and Baltimore with 300) I mean, are these kids pieces of shit too? No. They are all products of a fucked up family life. Ever read about Charles Manson's childhood?

What? You must be kidding. None of the people you named in the above post are victims aside from the 1000 people that were killed. They all deserve the death penalty unless the killed someone in self defense. I can't believe this mindset exists.

Ever heard of rehabilitation? It's one of the main reasons our prison system in the U.S. does not work. So you are saying that these kids are all pieces of shit and deserve the death penalty? I disagree. Sorry.

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Reply #10 posted 12/15/16 5:00pm

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214 said:

Great burn that piece of hit alive.


That get's my vote.

I'd love to be there so I can chant "The Roof, The Roof, The Roof is on fire. We don't need no water let the muthafucka burn. Burn muthafucka, burn."


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Reply #11 posted 12/15/16 5:19pm

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derrick31 said:

3rdeyedude said:

This crime was horrible and a hate crime. But I don't think this kid was a white supremacist. He just was a victim of a fucked up life. Read about it here:

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0

I feel the same way about him as I do about all the 22 year old black men killing each other in the inner cities of the U.S. (Chicago with 700 murders this year and Baltimore with 300) I mean, are these kids pieces of shit too? No. They are all products of a fucked up family life. Ever read about Charles Manson's childhood?

What? You must be kidding. None of the people you named in the above post are victims aside from the 1000 people that were killed. They all deserve the death penalty unless the killed someone in self defense. I can't believe this mindset exists.

Indeed.

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Reply #12 posted 12/15/16 5:21pm

214

3rdeyedude said:

derrick31 said:

3rdeyedude said: What? You must be kidding. None of the people you named in the above post are victims aside from the 1000 people that were killed. They all deserve the death penalty unless the killed someone in self defense. I can't believe this mindset exists.

Ever heard of rehabilitation? It's one of the main reasons our prison system in the U.S. does not work. So you are saying that these kids are all pieces of shit and deserve the death penalty? I disagree. Sorry.

Rehabilitation, that kind of human beings do not deserve rehabilitation we must get rid of them, or use them for experimentation instead of innocent creatures. I mean the most evil ones.

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Reply #13 posted 12/15/16 5:22pm

214

Pokeno4Money said:

214 said:

Great burn that piece of hit alive.


That get's my vote.

I'd love to be there so I can chant "The Roof, The Roof, The Roof is on fire. We don't need no water let the muthafucka burn. Burn muthafucka, burn."


ohgoon

That's some evil shit eek but i ain't no saint so count me there. cool

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Reply #14 posted 12/15/16 7:31pm

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3rdeyedude said:

Ever heard of rehabilitation? It's one of the main reasons our prison system in the U.S. does not work. So you are saying that these kids are all pieces of shit and deserve the death penalty? I disagree. Sorry.

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A Norwegian mass murderer responsible for killing 77 people in a bombing and shooting spree is suing the state over his allegations that Oslo is violating his human rights.

Anders Behring Breivik, a right-wing extremist, was responsible for the deaths of 77 people in Norway in July 2011.


During his killing spree, Breivik detonated a bomb in Oslo and then went on a shooting spree on a nearby island in which dozens of teenagers at a camp were killed.


After his initial trial in 2011, Breivik has been held in isolation in a luxurious prison cell.


According
to Agence France Presse, Breivik's cell has three rooms, "one for living, one for studying, and a third for physical exercise — as well as a television, a computer without internet access and a game console. He is able to prepare his own food and do his own laundry."


Breivik has had a history of complaining about his life in prison. As the New Yorker reported in 2015, Breivik has complained about everything in prison ranging from how his room had a PlayStation 2 instead of a PlayStation 3 and the quality of the rubber pen he is allowed to write with in his cell.


Breivik's complaints, even including his near complete isolation, would be hard to square with the American view of prisons. Prisons in Norway are nearly unimaginably luxurious, with the aim being rehabilitation instead of penalization. The prisons include vocational classes, video game consoles, well-prepared kitchens, and in some cases even recording studios with instruments.


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Reply #15 posted 12/15/16 7:45pm

uPtoWnNY

214 said:

3rdeyedude said:

Ever heard of rehabilitation? It's one of the main reasons our prison system in the U.S. does not work. So you are saying that these kids are all pieces of shit and deserve the death penalty? I disagree. Sorry.

Rehabilitation, that kind of human beings do not deserve rehabilitation we must get rid of them, or use them for experimentation instead of innocent creatures. I mean the most evil ones.

Exactly. This is one of the rare instances when I'm in favor of the death penalty. There's no doubt this animal did it, so give him a slow, painful death. And I'd treat those dumbass gangbangers who fire wildly into crowds killing innocent people the same way. Enough of this shit.

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Reply #16 posted 12/15/16 8:40pm

benni

3rdeyedude said:

This crime was horrible and a hate crime. But I don't think this kid was a white supremacist. He just was a victim of a fucked up life. Read about it here:

http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0

I feel the same way about him as I do about all the 22 year old black men killing each other in the inner cities of the U.S. (Chicago with 700 murders this year and Baltimore with 300) I mean, are these kids pieces of shit too? No. They are all products of a fucked up family life. Ever read about Charles Manson's childhood?


You know, there comes a time when we have to stop making excuses such as an f'd up life causing people to do bad things to others. I was a victim of a f'd up life, abused from the age of 4 to 15, when I finally ran away to get away from the abuse. I heard from very young ages how I wasn't wanted, how I would grow up to be nothing, etc., and my father was instrumental in my mother's death. My father was a psychopath who hurt many people, and came from a rough background, too. He chose to hurt others. I on the other hand, I didn't walk into a church and kill people. I have worked very hard to not cause harm to others because I know what that feels like and would not wish that kind of pain on another. And what I did do with my life was go to college, get my bachelor's degree, and then my Master's degree in social work. I've spent my life, and made it my career, trying to help others. Every one has their story, every one experiences some kind of trauma throughout their life, and many of us had f'd up family lives. But we can choose who we become, we can choose what we do with those lives. Many people have troubled pasts, but not everyone makes the decision to become a mass murderer. Many of us make the decision to help others instead. I have trust issues, that does come from my past, but I am aware of that issue and work hard to trust others, even though it scares me. When the overwhelming evidence of people coming from troubled pasts shows those people going into helping fields when they are grown, and only those few decide to take a more dangerous and deadly path, then we have to look at what it is that differentiates the many from those few. In my father's case, he was a psychopath who could not experience empathy for others. And I'm willing to bet the same is true in Dylan's case. So we can't blame it on their troubled pasts, but rather there is a personality disorder in that individual that causes them to go down a darker path.

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benni said:


You know, there comes a time when we have to stop making excuses such as an f'd up life causing people to do bad things to others. I was a victim of a f'd up life, abused from the age of 4 to 15, when I finally ran away to get away from the abuse. I heard from very young ages how I wasn't wanted, how I would grow up to be nothing, etc., and my father was instrumental in my mother's death. My father was a psychopath who hurt many people, and came from a rough background, too. He chose to hurt others. I on the other hand, I didn't walk into a church and kill people. I have worked very hard to not cause harm to others because I know what that feels like and would not wish that kind of pain on another. And what I did do with my life was go to college, get my bachelor's degree, and then my Master's degree in social work. I've spent my life, and made it my career, trying to help others. Every one has their story, every one experiences some kind of trauma throughout their life, and many of us had f'd up family lives. But we can choose who we become, we can choose what we do with those lives. Many people have troubled pasts, but not everyone makes the decision to become a mass murderer. Many of us make the decision to help others instead. I have trust issues, that does come from my past, but I am aware of that issue and work hard to trust others, even though it scares me. When the overwhelming evidence of people coming from troubled pasts shows those people going into helping fields when they are grown, and only those few decide to take a more dangerous and deadly path, then we have to look at what it is that differentiates the many from those few. In my father's case, he was a psychopath who could not experience empathy for others. And I'm willing to bet the same is true in Dylan's case. So we can't blame it on their troubled pasts, but rather there is a personality disorder in that individual that causes them to go down a darker path.


Well said.

While some do have understandable factors that contribute to their evil acts, such as a troubled and violent upbringing, it should NEVER be used as an excuse.

Thank you for telling your story, my friend. Much respect to you, as you broke the cycle.


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uPtoWnNY said:

214 said:

Rehabilitation, that kind of human beings do not deserve rehabilitation we must get rid of them, or use them for experimentation instead of innocent creatures. I mean the most evil ones.

Exactly. This is one of the rare instances when I'm in favor of the death penalty. There's no doubt this animal did it, so give him a slow, painful death. And I'd treat those dumbass gangbangers who fire wildly into crowds killing innocent people the same way. Enough of this shit.

I'm with you. I'm usually against the death penalty, but I think Roof should be hanged on the corner of 125th Street and Lenox Ave on Martin Luther King Day

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If pinned down I would say I was opposed to the death penalty for the simple fact that some people have been put to death for things they did not do. Yet when we know it happened I do not see any reason not to use it. In this case, I would flip the switch! (and I think that there SHOULD be some pain in the process...oh the poor baby suffered for a minute...GOOD!)

I am also steadfast against hate crime laws. I would rather just punish acts and not thoughts. Some will argue that the motive is often used to determine the level of the cirme. But that IS NOT what this is.... this is adding to the crime. Yet in a case like this... i would gladly flip the switch!

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Reply #20 posted 12/16/16 4:44am

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It'll be interesting to see if the Jury will give him Death or Life....

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Reply #21 posted 12/16/16 8:59am

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A slow death in prison till he is old. I am evil.

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Kill the POS!

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Reply #23 posted 12/16/16 11:00am

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A slow death in prison till he is old. I am evil.

I am against the death penalty. Therefore I agree with you.

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When the state kills they can do anything. The IRS thingie is weak compared.

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jjhunsecker said:



uPtoWnNY said:




214 said:



Rehabilitation, that kind of human beings do not deserve rehabilitation we must get rid of them, or use them for experimentation instead of innocent creatures. I mean the most evil ones.




Exactly. This is one of the rare instances when I'm in favor of the death penalty. There's no doubt this animal did it, so give him a slow, painful death. And I'd treat those dumbass gangbangers who fire wildly into crowds killing innocent people the same way. Enough of this shit.






I'm with you. I'm usually against the death penalty, but I think Roof should be hanged on the corner of 125th Street and Lenox Ave on Martin Luther King Day


I'm not for the death penalty either, but I'm glad he was found guilty because he is. No excuses whatsoever. When Blacks kill Blacks they go to jail, so there is no reason why he should have gotten a pass for his act of hate. He allowed racist, ignorant beliefs to be the purpose of his intentions. He was the only one, who pulled that trigger and cold-bloodedly murdered those innocent people, because of their race. He made it clear that he hates Blacks. So now his hate will be his fate. He doesn't deserve mercy or pity. I have no idea what punishment he should get, but he should never be allowed into society again.
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Reply #26 posted 12/16/16 12:54pm

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jjhunsecker said:

uPtoWnNY said:

Exactly. This is one of the rare instances when I'm in favor of the death penalty. There's no doubt this animal did it, so give him a slow, painful death. And I'd treat those dumbass gangbangers who fire wildly into crowds killing innocent people the same way. Enough of this shit.

I'm with you. I'm usually against the death penalty, but I think Roof should be hanged on the corner of 125th Street and Lenox Ave on Martin Luther King Day

You´re with me then, so the the jury has already a verdict.

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Reply #27 posted 12/16/16 12:56pm

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2elijah said:

jjhunsecker said:

I'm with you. I'm usually against the death penalty, but I think Roof should be hanged on the corner of 125th Street and Lenox Ave on Martin Luther King Day

I'm not for the death penalty either, but I'm glad he was found guilty because he is. No excuses whatsoever. When Blacks kill Blacks they go to jail, so there is no reason why he should have gotten a pass for his act of hate. He allowed racist, ignorant beliefs to be the purpose of his intentions. He was the only one, who pulled that trigger and cold-bloodedly murdered those innocent people, because of their race. He made it clear that he hates Blacks. So now his hate will be his fate. He doesn't deserve mercy or pity. I have no idea what punishment he should get, but he should never be allowed into society again.

Yes, never again.

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

I am also steadfast against hate crime laws. I would rather just punish acts and not thoughts.


Agreed. The entire concept of "hate crimes" is moronic. Who gives a crap why you murdered somebody, if you take a person's life you should pay the ultimate price. If those 9 churchmembers were all white, would that have made it a lesser crime? Puh-leeze rolleyes

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214 said:



2elijah said:


jjhunsecker said:



I'm with you. I'm usually against the death penalty, but I think Roof should be hanged on the corner of 125th Street and Lenox Ave on Martin Luther King Day



I'm not for the death penalty either, but I'm glad he was found guilty because he is. No excuses whatsoever. When Blacks kill Blacks they go to jail, so there is no reason why he should have gotten a pass for his act of hate. He allowed racist, ignorant beliefs to be the purpose of his intentions. He was the only one, who pulled that trigger and cold-bloodedly murdered those innocent people, because of their race. He made it clear that he hates Blacks. So now his hate will be his fate. He doesn't deserve mercy or pity. I have no idea what punishment he should get, but he should never be allowed into society again.

Yes, never again.


He admitted killing those 9 innocent people because of their race. What did he think? Killing 'some' Black people would erase all Black people? Not. Never going to happen. He acted on hate, therefore committed a hate crime.
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