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Reply #240 posted 01/11/17 2:57am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

jjhunsecker said:

And remember, Hillary Clinton received more votes than any WHITE MAN in presidential history...

^ A point that cannot be disputed.


And it's a point that, sadly, matters to a few certain people here on the org.

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Reply #241 posted 01/11/17 6:22am

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DiminutiveRocker said:

jjhunsecker said:

The Democrats lost ONLY because of the Electoral College- any other country, the person with the most votes actually WINS...And remember, Hillary Clinton received more votes than any WHITE MAN in presidential history...

^ A point that cannot be disputed.

and it is one that is wholly irrelevant. as some wise persons said about 75% people did not vote for hillary...


but really this lie about her winning a vote that doesn't exist is interesting as it is irrelevant.

but it shows how the left are (as hillary said) sore losers in that they for the 2nd time in 16 years want to change the law after the fact to help them politically following a loss.

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Reply #242 posted 01/12/17 8:31pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

^ A point that cannot be disputed.

and it is one that is wholly irrelevant. as some wise persons said about 75% people did not vote for hillary...


And a whole lot of people who voted Democrat in the prior presidential election did NOT vote for Hillary in this election.

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Reply #243 posted 01/13/17 10:45am

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Pokeno4Money said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

and it is one that is wholly irrelevant. as some wise persons said about 75% people did not vote for hillary...


And a whole lot of people who voted Democrat in the prior presidential election did NOT vote for Hillary in this election.

if either party in any state really got their voters to the polls they could win any election. but since we have the system we have many people decide not to vote because there is no point. That is one reason we do nothing more than guess that if we had a national popular vote how it would have gone.

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Reply #244 posted 01/13/17 10:54am

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Sore losers? Hillary won the popular vote? 46 million didn't vote.

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Reply #245 posted 01/13/17 11:42am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Sore losers? Hillary won the popular vote? 46 million didn't vote.

yup, and those are Hillary's words not mine.... and the fact that there is no such thing as a national popular vote...and in the US there never ever has been.

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Reply #246 posted 01/13/17 12:05pm

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But there should be.

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Reply #247 posted 01/13/17 12:13pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

But there should be.

i do not agree. i suspect the only reason you do is your side lost.

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Reply #248 posted 01/13/17 8:29pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

If either party in any state really got their voters to the polls they could win any election. but since we have the system we have many people decide not to vote because there is no point. That is one reason we do nothing more than guess that if we had a national popular vote how it would have gone.


Exactly. For example, why would anybody bother to vote Republican in California or New York? It's a waste of time.

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Reply #249 posted 01/14/17 8:40am

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Your side? Class warfare?

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Reply #250 posted 01/14/17 8:58am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Your side? Class warfare?

you would need to have some class first!

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Reply #251 posted 01/14/17 9:25am

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Be with the people or be with the elite.

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Reply #252 posted 01/14/17 10:17am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

2freaky4church1 said:

But there should be.

i do not agree. i suspect the only reason you do is your side lost.


Your side? So, wait, what!? Several months ago, I had gained a little more respect for you because you were saying that you saw neither Hillary nor Trump were good options, but NOW you are all for Trump? Why? Because he won the electoral college vote? If you believed neither Trump or Hillary were good options, then it would seem that you would see that a Trump presidency (just as a Hillary presidency) would not be good for this country and would want to find some way to change it. Only, OnlyN.

Here is what I suspect: I think when the RNC realized there was a chance that Trump could actually win this thing, he was encouraged strongly to accept Pence as his running mate. Pence would be acceptable to the majority of the RNC. I think they felt Trump would surely mess up or that there was enough out there on Trump that he might not make it through his first year and would be impeached. This would then put Pence in as President. They are allowing Trump to pick whoever he wants to be on his Administration because that Administration (picked by Trump's hand) will almost certainly increase the likelihood of Trump's impeachment, as they would lead him and encourage him the wrong way. Pence will be president before all is said and done in the next 4 years.

I do wonder, though, how Trump is picking his administration. Is he using that gene belief he has to pick "the best of the best"?

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Reply #253 posted 01/14/17 11:47am

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benni said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

i do not agree. i suspect the only reason you do is your side lost.


Your side? So, wait, what!? Several months ago, I had gained a little more respect for you because you were saying that you saw neither Hillary nor Trump were good options, but NOW you are all for Trump? Why? Because he won the electoral college vote? If you believed neither Trump or Hillary were good options, then it would seem that you would see that a Trump presidency (just as a Hillary presidency) would not be good for this country and would want to find some way to change it. Only, OnlyN.

Here is what I suspect: I think when the RNC realized there was a chance that Trump could actually win this thing, he was encouraged strongly to accept Pence as his running mate. Pence would be acceptable to the majority of the RNC. I think they felt Trump would surely mess up or that there was enough out there on Trump that he might not make it through his first year and would be impeached. This would then put Pence in as President. They are allowing Trump to pick whoever he wants to be on his Administration because that Administration (picked by Trump's hand) will almost certainly increase the likelihood of Trump's impeachment, as they would lead him and encourage him the wrong way. Pence will be president before all is said and done in the next 4 years.

I do wonder, though, how Trump is picking his administration. Is he using that gene belief he has to pick "the best of the best"?

I am not all for trump... the my side your side talk is more about the double standard over how trump won by the actual vote but not the total of the state's internal votes.

you also make the mistake of forgetting the degree to which i see each person. I see them both as just about the worst options but I see hilary as far worst--both long and short term. Ironically I do think that all in all trump MAY end up harming the GOP far worst than Hillary would help the DNC.

But anyway: do not confuse me being happier with him than i would be with her. I think they are both bad ideas. (but there is some push back on my part against some of the anti-trump stuff)

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