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Graycap23

Adam & Eve: So Eve had sex with the serpent in the Garden of Eve?

hmmm

The Original Sin

For those not entirely aware of the serpent seed doctrine, it is a doctrine which states that the original sin; Eve's transgression, was laying with the serpent (satan), who impregnated her with Cain. The doctrine also states that member's of Cain's lineage are still around today.

Naturally, many Christians tend to see this doctrine as complete bull, or only half bull. Some say that satan could have never impregnated Eve; while others say that it was possible, but that Cain's lineage died out in the flood. But, what is the truth? The first thing we have to do is read the scripture with a mind opened by God.

Now, everyone knows the story. God created Adam and Eve, placed them in a Garden, told them they could eat from any of the trees, except from the tree of Knowledge of Good and evil. Then the serpent (Satan) comes along, beguiles Eve, she ate the fruit of the forbidden tree, and gives it to Adam. All three are punished.

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Reply #1 posted 10/31/12 10:13am

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This I have not heard..... hmm......

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I don't think serpents can impregnate women. In general, two different species can't produce offspring.

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I hope she used the tail end. The alternative is just whack.
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MidniteMagnet said:

I don't think serpents can impregnate women. In general, two different species can't produce offspring.

the Serpent wasn't an actual snake but Satan

he was called the serpent because of his characteristics similar to a snake

The Hebrew word nachash is the generic name of any serpent. The following are the principal biblical allusions to this animal its subtlety is mentioned in Ge 3:1 its wisdom is alluded to by our Lord in Mt 10:18 the poisonous properties of some species are often mentioned, see Ps 58:4; Pr 25:32 the sharp tongue of the serpent is mentioned in Ps 140:3; Job 20:16 the habit serpents have of lying concealed in hedges and in holes of walls is alluded to in Ec 10:8 their dwelling in dry sandy places, in De 8:10 their wonderful mode of progression did not escape the observation of the author of Pr 30:1 ... who expressly mentions it as "one of the three things which were too wonderful for him." ver. 19. The art of taming and charming serpents is of great antiquity, and is alluded to in Ps 58:5; Ec 10:11; Jer 8:17 and doubtless intimated by St. James, Jas 3:7 who particularizes serpents among all other animals that "have been tamed by man." It was under the form of a serpent that the devil seduced Eve; hence in Scripture Satan is called "the old serpent." Re 12:9 and comp. 2Cor 11:3 http://www.bible-history....S/Serpent/

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MidniteMagnet said:

I don't think serpents can impregnate women. In general, two different species can't produce offspring.

The Shiny one............the serpent, (Nachash) was a shape shifter.

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Graycap23 said:

MidniteMagnet said:

I don't think serpents can impregnate women. In general, two different species can't produce offspring.

The Shiny one............the serpent, (Nachash) was a shape shifter.

Angels(Cherubim, Seraphim) are not men, their creation is individuals

Angelic beings are considered sons of God, because they were distinctly created by God, like Adam Eve Jesus and believers are considered sons of God at the point of the being born again

Angels didn't have sex in order to make more angels

the place in Genesis before the flood is not dealing with angels, and Jesus said (the angels don't marry nor are given in marriage)

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Graycap23 said:

The Shiny one............the serpent, (Nachash) was a shape shifter.

Angels(Cherubim, Seraphim) are not men, their creation is individuals

Angelic beings are considered sons of God, because they were distinctly created by God, like Adam Eve Jesus and believers are considered sons of God at the point of the being born again

Angels didn't have sex in order to make more angels

the place in Genesis before the flood is not dealing with angels, and Jesus said (the angels don't marry nor are given in marriage)

1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

According to the New Jerusalem translation of the Bible, the last half of the verse reads as, "I have gotten a man from an angel of the LORD."

However, if Cain was of Adam, then he would have to be listed amongst Adam's lineage, but he is not. Adam's lineage actually starts with Seth. Genesis chapter 5 gives us Adam's lineage. Genesis chapter 4 gives us Cain's lineage.

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Graycap23 said:



MidniteMagnet said:


I don't think serpents can impregnate women. In general, two different species can't produce offspring.



The Shiny one.....the serpent, (Nachash) was a shape shifter.


OldFriends4Sale said:



MidniteMagnet said:


I don't think serpents can impregnate women. In general, two different species can't produce offspring.



the Serpent wasn't an actual snake but Satan


Ah of course, because this makes much more sense.

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OK, Adam and Eve had two sons, Cain and Abel. So how did two sons reproduce? Did they sleep with their mother?

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Reply #10 posted 10/31/12 12:55pm

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vainandy said:

OK, Adam and Eve had two sons, Cain and Abel. So how did two sons reproduce? Did they sleep with their mother?

I'v'e always wondered that too confused

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lauralevesque said:

vainandy said:

OK, Adam and Eve had two sons, Cain and Abel. So how did two sons reproduce? Did they sleep with their mother?

I'v'e always wondered that too confused

http://www.gospelway.com/...n-wife.php

People sometimes ask where Cain found a wife to marry. Since he was a son of Adam and Eve, the first man and woman created by God, where would he find a woman to marry? Some ask this sincerely. Others ask as a trick question, thinking they have found some flaw in the Bible history of early man.

The Bible record is found in Gen. 4:16,17. After Cain had killed Abel, he departed from the land where he and Abel had lived. He moved to Nod, a land east of Eden. There he and his wife had a son whom he named Enoch. He also built a city which he also named Enoch.

Observations about population growth

The fact that Cain, the son of Adam, built a city tells us much about the increase in population in the early history of mankind. If a city was built in the lifetime of a son of the very first man, it follows that population grew rapidly and was quickly civilized (in contrast to the views of evolutionists).

God had commanded Adam and Eve to reproduce and fill the earth (Gen. 1:28). Men in that time, before the flood, lived to great ages (see chapter 5). Adam, for example, lived to be 930 years old before he died (5:5), and most of his descendants before the flood lived about 900 years. If there are no gaps in the genealogies, this means Adam would have been alive following the birth of Lamech, father of Noah, 8 generations later! Hence, although they eventually died, people lived many years before they died. This greatly multiplied the number of people living on earth because, at any one time, there were many generations still living.

Further, men were capable of having many children, and large families were common. Noah was having children at age 500 (5:32). All men in chap. 5 are recorded as having "sons and daughters." In such long lifetimes with long periods of fertility, many children could be born.

Using conservative estimates, Morris estimates (p. 143) that, by the time Cain died, there could easily have been 120,000 people on the earth (certainly enough for there to be cities). By the time of Noah there could easily have been seven billion - more than on earth today! Do not think of Cain, Adam, and other such people as walking around on a bare, lonesome, uninhabited earth. The obeyed God's command to reproduce and fill the earth.

Where did Cain get his wife?

From the above information it is clear that there would have been many women available for him to choose from eventually. With people living such long lives, it would have been no problem for a man to marry a woman 50 or even 100 years younger than him. This would be no different, by comparison, than a man today marrying a woman 5 or 10 years younger than himself.

Hence, Cain would have had plenty of women to choose from. However, among Adam's sons and daughters (5:5), some of them would have had to intermarry with brothers and sisters to get the process of reproduction going. Perhaps Cain married a sister. If not, he could have married a niece, etc. At this point there would have been no laws against such close intermarriage. God had commanded reproduction and such intermarriage would be needed to obey the command. Intermarriage among close relatives was forbidden only years later, and the reason was the danger of genetic problems. That would have been no problem, however, in the early history of man when long life spans prove there were few mutant genes to cause genetic problems.

Remember that we do not know when Cain married. We do not know how old he was when he killed Abel. He may or may not have already been married at the time. We do not know how many brothers or sisters he had, though we know he did have sisters (5:5). As shown above, there were many people alive during his lifetime and therefore many people for him to choose from.

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vainandy said:

OK, Adam and Eve had two sons, Cain and Abel. So how did two sons reproduce? Did they sleep with their mother?

This situation highlights the 2 sons because it needed to focus on an important issue dealing with the offering of the sacrifice (attitude of worship)

These weren't the only children Adam & Eve had

possibly according to Eves naming of Cain she could have had daughters 1st

But there was no indication that Cain was Adan&Eves 1st child

they obviously mated with siblings/cousins

Genesis 4

King James Version (KJV)

4 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.

4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:

Genesis 5

5 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;

2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:

4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

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^Great minds think alike!

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I think Star Wars mythology makes far more sense. This stuff is too convoluted. Parts of the Bible needed better writers.

On a totally unrelated side-note, Disney just bought Lucas film and they are making episode 7 for 2015 release.
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Graycap23 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Angels(Cherubim, Seraphim) are not men, their creation is individuals

Angelic beings are considered sons of God, because they were distinctly created by God, like Adam Eve Jesus and believers are considered sons of God at the point of the being born again

Angels didn't have sex in order to make more angels

the place in Genesis before the flood is not dealing with angels, and Jesus said (the angels don't marry nor are given in marriage)

1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

According to the New Jerusalem translation of the Bible, the last half of the verse reads as, "I have gotten a man from an angel of the LORD."

However, if Cain was of Adam, then he would have to be listed amongst Adam's lineage, but he is not. Adam's lineage actually starts with Seth. Genesis chapter 5 gives us Adam's lineage. Genesis chapter 4 gives us Cain's lineage.

Some people believe that Angels can have sex with women.

Where did you get that translation? this is the New Jerusalem:

The man had intercourse with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain. 'I have acquired a man with the help of Yahweh,' she said.

In that section Seth is listed and not Cain because its making connection with those still in direct 'worship' of God, the ordained place of worship, the diverting from Gods way of (worship/sacrice) etc

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RodeoSchro said:

^Great minds think alike!

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Graycap23 said:

1And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

According to the New Jerusalem translation of the Bible, the last half of the verse reads as, "I have gotten a man from an angel of the LORD."

However, if Cain was of Adam, then he would have to be listed amongst Adam's lineage, but he is not. Adam's lineage actually starts with Seth. Genesis chapter 5 gives us Adam's lineage. Genesis chapter 4 gives us Cain's lineage.

Some people believe that Angels can have sex with women.

Where did you get that translation? this is the New Jerusalem:

The man had intercourse with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain. 'I have acquired a man with the help of Yahweh,' she said.

In that section Seth is listed and not Cain because its making connection with those still in direct 'worship' of God, the ordained place of worship, the diverting from Gods way of (worship/sacrice) etc

Angles did have sex with women....read the 6th chapter of Genesis. The offspring were giants. The great flood of Noah was to wipe out the giants. Depending on your beliefs, the angels were Annunaki or some other kind of alien being.

Some pple say that Genesis 6 refers to "great men" and not literal giants. But if you read some of the books of the Bible that they decided to take out/leave out, it's obvious that they spoke of literal giants. Check the book of Enoch. "Angels" had plenty of sex with plenty of earthly women.

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V10LETBLUES said:

I think Star Wars mythology makes far more sense. This stuff is too convoluted. Parts of the Bible needed better writers.

Come on now... horny shape-shifting satanic serpents who talk, horny angels, horny giant aliens, horny incestuous family whose mother was created from the father's rib... Forget Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey, there's a reason why THIS is the best-selling novel of all time.
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illimack said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Some people believe that Angels can have sex with women.

Where did you get that translation? this is the New Jerusalem:

The man had intercourse with his wife Eve, and she conceived and gave birth to Cain. 'I have acquired a man with the help of Yahweh,' she said.

In that section Seth is listed and not Cain because its making connection with those still in direct 'worship' of God, the ordained place of worship, the diverting from Gods way of (worship/sacrice) etc

Angles did have sex with women....read the 6th chapter of Genesis. The offspring were giants. The great flood of Noah was to wipe out the giants. Depending on your beliefs, the angels were Annunaki or some other kind of alien being.

Some pple say that Genesis 6 refers to "great men" and not literal giants. But if you read some of the books of the Bible that they decided to take out/leave out, it's obvious that they spoke of literal giants. Check the book of Enoch. "Angels" had plenty of sex with plenty of earthly women.

Angels are not Men (their creation is different: they were not created with reproductive ability)

2 angels didnt mate to make another angel. They were created individually

Genesis 6 never said giants were the offspring of the sons & daughters. It just reads in a totally different sentance and there were giants in the land.

vrs 1 & 2 talk about marriage (Jesus said later In the days of Noah they were marrying and given in marriage and the flood took them away) no where did he indicate that these were angels

after vrs 1 & 2 vrs 3 specifies God indicating they were men: My Spririt shall not always strive with man, for the he is flesh:

Also nowhere in the bible does it say that the flood was to wipe out the giants, it said God saw the wickedness of man ..great in the earth every imagination -thoughts of his heart only evil. that the earth was filled with violence

vrs 4 says 'the sons of God came into the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men/men of renown (it didnt say Giants)

How would a flood solve the problem when angels are not flesh as man is, they are not Male, they cant be destroyed with natural means so a flood would not wipe them out.

Also there were and still are 'giants' in the earth.

maybe those giants are the dinosaurs

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I've always found the Garden of Eden story loaded with sexual symbolism. But I suspect that's all it is... symbolism. Eve is created by God to give Adam a suitable mate. And c'mon... of all the animals that could have tempted Eve it had to be a snake? Not a cow or platypus? wink. What do they first notice after eating the apple? Why, their nakedness of course. Sexual symbolism.

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toejam said:

I've always found the Garden of Eden story loaded with sexual symbolism. But I suspect that's all it is... symbolism. Eve is created by God to give Adam a suitable mate. And c'mon... of all the animals that could have tempted Eve it had to be a snake? Not a cow or platypus? wink. What do they first notice after eating the apple? Why, their nakedness of course. Sexual symbolism.

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fable (n): A usually short narrative making an edifying or cautionary point and often employing as characters animals that speak and act like humans.


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lol I think it always depends on what people are reading

Most of us in America will read sex into anything lol

There is the assumption that the forbidden fruit is sex, which never made sense since God told them to be fruitful and multiply, I just never got how people interpreted that as sex

or that the fruit was an apple

Some say it was 'Oral sex' maybe they just got that from Michelangelos painting

It's not directly stated but the idea of them realizing they were naked is that they lost they 'glory' (halo) that surrounded them. That at that point they were similar to angels have a luminous appearance, when they sinned the 'glory' left them

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It's not directly stated but the idea of them realizing they were naked is that they lost they 'glory' (halo) that surrounded them. That at that point they were similar to angels have a luminous appearance, when they sinned the 'glory' left them


It seems to me that you're saying that people shouldn't interpret the forbidden fruit as sex because it's not directly stated, but then you ask us to accept the idea that when they realised their nakedness, it really meant they were losing their glory/halo - even when that is not directly stated!

In any case, I don't really have a concrete interpretation of Genesis. People read it in many different ways. I see elements of sexual symbolism (the naked woman being tempted by a snake, and not a platypus, being the primary one), but I have no care to hitch my horse to any particular one. Ultimately, I'm more interested in whether or not any interpretation is actually true, in the historical sense...

Was there really an Adam & Eve in the first place? And if so, how accurate is their description in the Bible? How much is true, and how much is metaphorical/allegorical? Given the well established evolutionary theory of our primate ancestry, I would argue that there was no definitive "first humans". Through the lens of evolution, trying to determine the "first humans" is like trying to determine at what point someone becomes an "adult". That is, the answer would come down to artificial arbitrary definitions. With that understood, to me it's pretty clear that the Adam & Eve story is just another fable/creation myth from ancient times, like the hundreds (if not thousands) of others once or currently believed in. Read into it what you will...

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toejam said:

Was there really an Adam & Eve in the first place? And if so, how accurate is their description in the Bible? How much is true, and how much is metaphorical/allegorical? Given the well established evolutionary theory of our primate ancestry, I would argue that there was no definitive "first humans". Through the lens of evolution, trying to determine the "first humans" is like trying to determine at what point someone becomes an "adult". That is, the answer would come down to artificial arbitrary definitions. With that understood, to me it's pretty clear that the Adam & Eve story is just another fable/creation myth from ancient times, like the hundreds (if not thousands) of others once or currently believed in. Read into it what you will...

It's rather amusing how creationists have a problem with the scientific explaination for human evolution and yet, without hesitation nor a shred of evidence, gobble up Adam & Eve creationism and regurgitate its ludicrous stories with a straight face.

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toejam said:

And c'mon... of all the animals that could have tempted Eve it had to be a snake? Not a cow or platypus?

Incorporating a snake into the story was a good way to take a swipe at competing beliefs:

(this is from the Wikiped... worship):

Ancient Mesopotamians and Semites believed that snakes were immortal because they could infinitely shed their skin and appear forever youthful, appearing in a fresh guise every time. [1] Before the arrival of the Israelites, snake cults were well established in Canaan in the Bronze Age, for archaeologists have uncovered serpent cult objects in Bronze Age strata at several pre-Israelite cities in Canaan: two at Megiddo,[2] one at Gezer,[3] one in the sanctum sanctorum of the Area H temple at Hazor,[4] and two at Shechem.[5]

in the surrounding region, serpent cult objects figured in other cultures. A late Bronze Age Hittite shrine in northern Syria contained a bronze statue of a god holding a serpent in one hand and a staff in the other.[6] In sixth-century Babylon a pair of bronzer serpents flanked each of the four doorways of the temple of Esagila.[7] At the Babylonian New Year's festival, the priest was to commission from a woodworker, a metalworker and a goldsmith two images one of which "shall hold in its left hand a snake of cedar, raising its right [hand] to the god Nabu".[8] At the tell of Tepe Gawra, at least seventeen Early Bronze Age Assyrian bronze serpents were recovered.[9]

Ancient Egyptians worshiped snakes, especially the cobra. The cobra was not only associated with Ra, but also many other deities such as Wadjet, Renenutet, and Meretseger. Serpents could also be evil and harmful such as the case of Aapep. They were also referenced in the Book of the Dead, in which spell number 39 was made to help repel an evil snake in the underworld. "Get back! Crawl away! Get away from me, you snake! Go, be drowned in the Lake of the Abyss, at the place where your father commanded that the slaying of you should be carried out."[10] Wadjet was the patron goddess of Upper Egypt, and was represented as a cobra with spread hood, or a cobra-headed woman. She later became one of the protective emblems on the pharaoh's crown once Upper and Lower Egypt were united. She was said to 'spit fire' at the pharaoh's enemies, and the enemies of Ra. Sometimes referred to as one of the eyes of Ra, she was often associated with the lioness goddess Sekhmet, who also bore that role.


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toejam said:

OldFriends4Sale said

It's not directly stated but the idea of them realizing they were naked is that they lost they 'glory' (halo) that surrounded them. That at that point they were similar to angels have a luminous appearance, when they sinned the 'glory' left them


It seems to me that you're saying that people shouldn't interpret the forbidden fruit as sex because it's not directly stated, but then you ask us to accept the idea that when they realised their nakedness, it really meant they were losing their glory/halo - even when that is not directly stated!

In any case, I don't really have a concrete interpretation of Genesis. People read it in many different ways. I see elements of sexual symbolism (the naked woman being tempted by a snake, and not a platypus, being the primary one), but I have no care to hitch my horse to any particular one. Ultimately, I'm more interested in whether or not any interpretation is actually true, in the historical sense...

Was there really an Adam & Eve in the first place? And if so, how accurate is their description in the Bible? How much is true, and how much is metaphorical/allegorical? Given the well established evolutionary theory of our primate ancestry, I would argue that there was no definitive "first humans". Through the lens of evolution, trying to determine the "first humans" is like trying to determine at what point someone becomes an "adult". That is, the answer would come down to artificial arbitrary definitions. With that understood, to me it's pretty clear that the Adam & Eve story is just another fable/creation myth from ancient times, like the hundreds (if not thousands) of others once or currently believed in. Read into it what you will...

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I know the way these threads usually go but I'm really not 'debating' it at all

Again in that part It's clear in the bible the forbidden fruit could not be sex.

God says "Have sex ie multiply and replenish the earth" and then says "Don't have sex" ie don't eat the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. As well as they were married/she was his wife, not some random woman. So again in 'biblical' terms its expected that sex would be a part of the marriage. the fruit is the Knowledge of Good & Evil not sex

No, I didn't ask anyone to accept what I said, I was just talking about something I read from a few other sources, I never quoted any verses or anything to back it up. I thought it was interesting but I never concluded that to be biblical truth.

Again the topic really isn't about challenging the bible or christianity (as it seems every topic that eludes to religion christianity or the bible turns into) the topic is about Adam & Eve: Sex(with the serpent) the Serpent

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* Moderators Note: I've done this with many other subjects including some where people who believed in Satan(as a god), another on Wicca, so I show no partiality as far as subjects are concerned.

I ask that those who take part in the topic, stay on topic. The discussion isn't about challenging religions, name calling of anyone who believes a certain way, etc

It does not have to turn into a battle (as these threads tend to go into the same direction) the topic is given, that should be the conversation.

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V10LETBLUES said:

I think this thread needs more pictures. But stay on topic please, strictly pictures of the snake and eve getting it on. lol

lol, someone has to have created some

I never heard this idea that Eve had sex with the serpent/Satan

but I wonder is that where or where the idea that witches have intercourse with the Devil come from(another topic sorta releated)

This piece below I saw at a Borders years ago, an illustrated book on the bible and it was explicit

sex scenes drawn out, those curved lines that show humping etc it was hillarious

The Book of Genesis

Basil Wolverton wrote for the comics, for MAD Magazine, where most of his fans probably encountered him, and produced an amazing set of illustrations for the Bible published by the California church of which he was a member.

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