If the gloom and doom doesn't work.

If the birther schtick doesn't work.

If the "class warfare" schtick don't work.

Then why not call out Obama for being "Cool"...and make an attack ad with a lot of clips of Obama being "cool," all to a great beat with a happy chorus singing "four more years, four more years"

...and at the end, show the mess the Republicans left us and why we should never vote for them.

I think the Republicans should spend ALL their advertising money on this clip. Play it non-stop. Very effective.

[Edited 4/29/12 18:53pm]

Did they make that in two seconds or something?

Oops!

John McCain tried similar ads in 2008 and we all know how that worked out.

The republicans have a very solid argument to make on the economy and lack of recovery. All they need to do is make an ad featuring all of the presidents broken promises. How hard can that be? They should be hammering him about the failure of his stimulus to get unemployment below eight percent and his failure to "fix" the economy in his first term (he said if he didn't turn things around in three years he would be looking at a one term proposition).

heh. is that the best they can do ?

Actually that ad makes him look a lot more human than some of the past Presidents and more 'in touch' with the people. No snobbery at all. He's definitely a cool guy. I think one of the best moments was how he cool-ly took on Donald Trump when DT tried to trash him publically. Then Obama sprung into "I'll show you who the boss is". Then about a week later at the Presidential Toast dinner. Obama made DT look like an ass at as he put Donald Trump on blast and made him the joke of the Toast. Then the next night, 15 minutes before DT's season premiere celebrity show ended, the President cut through to announce the capture and 'taking out' of Osama Bin Laden. I loved the way he showed DT who the real Commander-in-Chief is So cool.

[Edited 4/28/12 6:06am]

Wow, what a mistake by the GOP.

On the other hand, Obama's new ad "One Chance" is probably the most devastating ad I've ever seen:

rialb said:

John McCain tried similar ads in 2008 and we all know how that worked out.

The republicans have a very solid argument to make on the economy and lack of recovery. All they need to do is make an ad featuring all of the presidents broken promises. How hard can that be? They should be hammering him about the failure of his stimulus to get unemployment below eight percent and his failure to "fix" the economy in his first term (he said if he didn't turn things around in three years he would be looking at a one term proposition).

No they don't. They are the ones responsible for the mess we're in. Nothing on the table is Obama's doing and we all know it.

They may say the are sick of hearing this, but it's still Bushes fault. That fact is never going to change. That's never going to go away. The truth hurts.

Obama has brought the economy above water from the cliff they threw it over and we all know this too.

[Edited 4/28/12 8:12am]

V10LETBLUES said:

rialb said:

John McCain tried similar ads in 2008 and we all know how that worked out.

The republicans have a very solid argument to make on the economy and lack of recovery. All they need to do is make an ad featuring all of the presidents broken promises. How hard can that be? They should be hammering him about the failure of his stimulus to get unemployment below eight percent and his failure to "fix" the economy in his first term (he said if he didn't turn things around in three years he would be looking at a one term proposition).

No they don't. They are the ones responsible for the mess we're in. Nothing on the table is Obama's doing and we all know it.

They may say the are sick of hearing this, but it's still Bushes fault. That fact is never going to change. That's never going to go away. The truth hurts.

Obama has brought the economy above water from the cliff they threw it over and we all know this too.

[Edited 4/28/12 8:12am]

Two problems with that theory:

1) People have short memories.

2) Whether it is true or not the president has done nothing but blame his predecessor. The fact is that his stimulus failed to bring the unemployment rate below eight percent as promised. That is not a failing of George W. Bush it is a failure of Barack Obama. I think that people are sick of the president and his supporters blaming George W. Bush for everything. The president needs to start taking responsibility for the fact that his own policies are not delivering the results that he promised.

I honestly don't think that Mitt Romney would do any better but the president really needs to stop pointing fingers at others and take responsibility for his policies. Don't forget, his party had majorities in both arms of congress for his first two years. They lost those majorities because the public didn't like the way his administration was handling the economy.

rialb said:

V10LETBLUES said:

No they don't. They are the ones responsible for the mess we're in. Nothing on the table is Obama's doing and we all know it.

They may say the are sick of hearing this, but it's still Bushes fault. That fact is never going to change. That's never going to go away. The truth hurts.

Obama has brought the economy above water from the cliff they threw it over and we all know this too.

[Edited 4/28/12 8:12am]

Two problems with that theory:

1) People have short memories.

2) Whether it is true or not the president has done nothing but blame his predecessor. The fact is that his stimulus failed to bring the unemployment rate below eight percent as promised. That is not a failing of George W. Bush it is a failure of Barack Obama. I think that people are sick of the president and his supporters blaming George W. Bush for everything. The president needs to start taking responsibility for the fact that his own policies are not delivering the results that he promised.

I honestly don't think that Mitt Romney would do any better but the president really needs to stop pointing fingers at others and take responsibility for his policies. Don't forget, his party had majorities in both arms of congress for his first two years. They lost those majorities because the public didn't like the way his administration was handling the economy.

I disagree. The blame will always need to be pointed out. Never should we forget. Never should we let them have a pass on this.

The Republicans want to worm their way out out by calling it "blame game". Well too bad, the blame has to go where it belongs. They would not do any less if not much worse if the shoe were in the other foot.

If the Republicans want to blame this president for "putting more families on welfare" or any of their other nonsense, then the president has to remind them that it was Bush that put them on welfare, and threw the nation off a cliff and no one else.

The President inherited a nation in need of CPR and stuffed with breathing tubes, and IV's, but has seen it through a recovery ever since. Business are recording record profits and the nation is getting better slowly but surely.

Do we want to give it back to the Republicans? Go back so they can fuck us again? The answer is going to be a resounding GTFOHWTHBS.

[Edited 4/28/12 9:52am]

rialb said:

V10LETBLUES said:

No they don't. They are the ones responsible for the mess we're in. Nothing on the table is Obama's doing and we all know it.

They may say the are sick of hearing this, but it's still Bushes fault. That fact is never going to change. That's never going to go away. The truth hurts.

Obama has brought the economy above water from the cliff they threw it over and we all know this too.

[Edited 4/28/12 8:12am]

Two problems with that theory:

1) People have short memories.

2) Whether it is true or not the president has done nothing but blame his predecessor. The fact is that his stimulus failed to bring the unemployment rate below eight percent as promised. That is not a failing of George W. Bush it is a failure of Barack Obama. I think that people are sick of the president and his supporters blaming George W. Bush for everything. The president needs to start taking responsibility for the fact that his own policies are not delivering the results that he promised.

I honestly don't think that Mitt Romney would do any better but the president really needs to stop pointing fingers at others and take responsibility for his policies. Don't forget, his party had majorities in both arms of congress for his first two years. They lost those majorities because the public didn't like the way his administration was handling the economy.

My memory is not short.

President Obama never promised that his stimilus would keep unemployement below 8%. That's a GOP talking point and a repeatedly debunked inaccurate one at that.

http://www.politifact.com...-keep-une/

http://www.politifact.com...timulus-w/

http://www.politifact.com...-would-ke/

http://www.politifact.com...romised-s/

They are referring to a Jan. 9, 2009, report called "The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan" from Christina Romer, chairwoman of the president's Council of Economic Advisers, and Jared Bernstein, the vice president's top economic adviser.

Their report projected that the stimulus plan proposed by Obama would create between three and four million jobs by the end of 2010. The report also includes a graphic predicting unemployment rates with and without the stimulus. Without the stimulus (the baseline), unemployment was projected to hit about 8.5 percent in 2009 and then continue rising to a peak of about 9 percent in 2010. With the stimulus, they predicted the unemployment rate would peak at just under 8 percent in 2009.

But in June, the unemployment rate was 9.5 percent.

In the past week, the administration has acknowledged its projections were wrong.

Here's what Romer herself said in a July 2 interview on Fox: "None of us had a crystal ball back in December (2008) and January (2009). I think almost every private forecaster realized that there were other things going on in the economy. It was worse than we anticipated. What the private forecasters are saying now is that they do anticipate that the economy will start growing again in the second half of the year, and that usually, then, employment and unemployment start to respond shortly after that. So I think that is a realistic expectation."

Biden also acknowledged the discrepancies in a July 5 interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos.

"The truth is, we and everyone else misread the economy," Biden said. "The figures we worked off of in January were the consensus figures in most of the blue chip indexes out there. ... And so the truth is, there was a misreading of just how bad an economy we inherited. Now, that doesn't — I'm not laying — it's now our responsibility. So the second question becomes, did the economic package we put in place, including the Recovery Act, is it the right package given the circumstances we're in? And we believe it is the right package given the circumstances we're in."

Stephanopoulos correctly noted that projections from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office at the time were slightly less optimistic than the administration's. In January, the CBO projected the unemployment rate would climb to 8.3 percent in 2009 and peak at 9 percent in 2010. By February, the prediction was even higher — 9 percent in 2009 without the stimulus, and 7.7 to 8.5 percent with a stimulus.

In a White House news conference on June 8, 2009, Bernstein, the co-author of the February projections, said they were off because the fourth-quarter economic numbers weren't available at the time. When they were released a short time later, they revealed the economy was in more dire shape than economists realized.

Bernstein maintained in that June news conference that the stimulus is working, and that without it, the unemployment rate would be even worse.

The debate about the numbers comes from the inherent uncertainty in economic forecasting. How can you ever prove that if the unemployment rate gets to X percent, it would or would not have gotten a point or two higher if not for the stimulus? The same holds true for Republicans who say the rising unemployment rates prove the stimulus isn't working. Again, it's difficult to empirically prove whether they're right or wrong.

We're certainly not going to try here. What we can rule on, however, is whether the Obama administration "promised" that unemployment rates would not rise above 8 percent if the stimulus were passed. We could find no instance of anyone in the administration directly making such a public pledge.

What we saw from the administration in January was a projection, not a promise. And it was a projection that came with heavy disclaimers.

"It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error," the report states. "There is the more fundamental uncertainty that comes with any estimate of the effects of a program. Our estimates of economic relationships and rules of thumb are derived from historical experience and so will not apply exactly in any given episode. Furthermore, the uncertainty is surely higher than normal now because the current recession is unusual both in its fundamental causes and its severity."

There's also a footnote that goes along with the chart that states: "Forecasts of the unemployment rate without the recovery plan vary substantially. Some private forecasters anticipate unemployment rates as high as 11% in the absence of action."

V10LETBLUES said:

rialb said:

Two problems with that theory:

1) People have short memories.

2) Whether it is true or not the president has done nothing but blame his predecessor. The fact is that his stimulus failed to bring the unemployment rate below eight percent as promised. That is not a failing of George W. Bush it is a failure of Barack Obama. I think that people are sick of the president and his supporters blaming George W. Bush for everything. The president needs to start taking responsibility for the fact that his own policies are not delivering the results that he promised.

I honestly don't think that Mitt Romney would do any better but the president really needs to stop pointing fingers at others and take responsibility for his policies. Don't forget, his party had majorities in both arms of congress for his first two years. They lost those majorities because the public didn't like the way his administration was handling the economy.

I disagree. The blame will always need to be pointed out. Never should we forget. Never should we let them have a pass on this.

The Republicans want to worm their way out out by calling it "blame game". Well too bad, the blame has to go where it belongs. They would not do any less if not much worse if the shoe were in the other foot.

If the Republicans want to blame this president for "putting more families on welfare" or any of their other nonsense, then the president has to remind them that it was Bush that put them on welfare, and threw the nation off a cliff and no one else.

The President inherited a nation in need of CPR and stuffed with breathing tubes, and IV's, but has seen it through a recovery ever since. Business are recording record profits and the nation is getting better slowly but surely.

Do we want to give it back to the Republicans? Go back so they can fuck us again? The answer is going to be a resounding GTFOHWTHBS.

[Edited 4/28/12 9:52am]

There is definitely a lot of blame to go around, not just to George W. Bush but also to Bill Clinton. You could arguably go back as far as Nixon's time. My problem with president Obama is that he does not appear to be taking the responsibility for his failed policies, he just blames his predecessor. He has also proven to be a very weak leader. He had trouble with his own party when they had a majority and things only got worse when the republicans took over the House, what is a second Obama term going to look like?

Back on topic I still think that the republicans don't need to run these silly "celebrity" type ads. All they need to do is lay out the economic realities and present a reasonable counter-argument. If they had a strong candidate president Obama would be in real trouble but luckily for him the republicans went a little crazy over the last few years and ended up with a very weak and vulnerable candidate.

rialb said:

There is definitely a lot of blame to go around, not just to George W. Bush but also to Bill Clinton. You could arguably go back as far as Nixon's time. My problem with president Obama is that he does not appear to be taking the responsibility for his failed policies, he just blames his predecessor. He has also proven to be a very weak leader. He had trouble with his own party when they had a majority and things only got worse when the republicans took over the House, what is a second Obama term going to look like?

Back on topic I still think that the republicans don't need to run these silly "celebrity" type ads. All they need to do is lay out the economic realities and present a reasonable counter-argument. If they had a strong candidate president Obama would be in real trouble but luckily for him the republicans went a little crazy over the last few years and ended up with a very weak and vulnerable candidate.

The trouble is they already have.

1. Keep the Bush Tax cuts that got us into this mess,

2. Continue to cut taxes on the wealthy

3. Get rid of Obamacare.

Not a winning strategy. None of this makes any sense. If they had had good ideas, I would be right behind them.

[Edited 4/28/12 19:44pm]

2elijah said:

Actually that ad makes him look a lot more human than some of the past Presidents and more 'in touch' with the people. No snobbery at all. He's definitely a cool guy. I think one of the best moments was how he cool-ly took on Donald Trump when DT tried to trash him publically. Then Obama sprung into "I'll show you who the boss is". Then about a week later at the Presidential Toast dinner. Obama made DT look like an ass at as he put Donald Trump on blast and made him the joke of the Toast. Then the next night, 15 minutes before DT's season premiere celebrity show ended, the President cut through to announce the capture and 'taking out' of Osama Bin Laden. I loved the way he showed DT who the real Commander-in-Chief is So cool.

[Edited 4/28/12 6:06am]

Somebody could have fried an egg on top of Trumps head when he got fronted out at that Presidential Toast dinner!

[Edited 4/29/12 22:43pm]

controversy99 said:

So the GOP is against coolness?

LOL, surely this is not news to you!

V10LETBLUES said:

rialb said:

John McCain tried similar ads in 2008 and we all know how that worked out.

The republicans have a very solid argument to make on the economy and lack of recovery. All they need to do is make an ad featuring all of the presidents broken promises. How hard can that be? They should be hammering him about the failure of his stimulus to get unemployment below eight percent and his failure to "fix" the economy in his first term (he said if he didn't turn things around in three years he would be looking at a one term proposition).

No they don't. They are the ones responsible for the mess we're in. Nothing on the table is Obama's doing and we all know it.

They may say the are sick of hearing this, but it's still Bushes fault. That fact is never going to change. That's never going to go away. The truth hurts.

Obama has brought the economy above water from the cliff they threw it over and we all know this too.

[Edited 4/28/12 8:12am]

This post is just flat out silly. "This mess is Bush's" is completely ignorant of the facts. There was a financial collapse, and Bush didn't help (although it would have helped some had the Financial Reform Act of 2005 passed - the dems stongly shot that down), but the current mess has been created over several decades.

On one hand, I don't think that Obama can completely change the course, even if he did make wise policy decisions....unfortunately, his complete submission to an overgrown government is hurting us even worse.

While they are at it, I think they should highlight the fact that both of the budgets the President has put forward are so ridiculous that neither received a single vote.......even in a senate where his own party is in control.

RodeoSchro said:

controversy99 said:

So the GOP is against coolness?

LOL, surely this is not news to you!

Yeah, I guess I've known it for a while, but it's funny that they're advertising it now.

RodeoSchro said:

Wow, what a mistake by the GOP.

On the other hand, Obama's new ad "One Chance" is probably the most devastating ad I've ever seen:

AH HA HA HA

BILL CLINTON PRAISING OBAMA FOR SOMETHING HE FAILED AT! AH HA HA HA HA

"You only get one chance" YOU HAD MORE THAN ONE CHANCE, BUBBA!

That's comedy GOLD right there! That sure is devastating, alright!

btw, there's a memo out there that explains that Obama pretty much said "Okay Admiral, this is your baby. I'm signing off on your plan. If we fuck up, it's your ass."

Dauphin said:

RodeoSchro said:

Wow, what a mistake by the GOP.

On the other hand, Obama's new ad "One Chance" is probably the most devastating ad I've ever seen:

AH HA HA HA

BILL CLINTON PRAISING OBAMA FOR SOMETHING HE FAILED AT! AH HA HA HA HA

"You only get one chance" YOU HAD MORE THAN ONE CHANCE, BUBBA!

That's comedy GOLD right there! That sure is devastating, alright!

btw, there's a memo out there that explains that Obama pretty much said "Okay Admiral, this is your baby. I'm signing off on your plan. If we fuck up, it's your ass."

Yeah right! Had it gone wrong, it would have been blaimed on President Obama so damn tough, it would be as if he got off the helicopter and was there kicking in the door himself.

V10LETBLUES said:

Let's see, Clinton was able to not be attacked by our own passenger jets. Was able to leave the economy in far better shape than he got it. And the nation prospered. Bush allowed us to suffer the worst attack on American soil in history.left the economy and the nation in ruins. Waged war againt the wrong nation. Blew through the projected surpluses and left us broke. ..and left Obama the daunting and costly job of cleaning up after Bush and bringing the nation back to life. It's going to take a long time for conservatives and republicans to live this down.

Hopefully, they won't have to "live down" the dillusions in your post.

V10LETBLUES said:

Let's see, Clinton was able to not be attacked by our own passenger jets. Was able to leave the economy in far better shape than he got it. And the nation prospered. Bush allowed us to suffer the worst attack on American soil in history.left the economy and the nation in ruins. Waged war againt the wrong nation. Blew through the projected surpluses and left us broke. ..and left Obama the daunting and costly job of cleaning up after Bush and bringing the nation back to life. It's going to take a long time for conservatives and republicans to live this down.

Took hits on the Trade Center, U.S.S. Cole. Enjoyed an economy fueled by the Tech and Housing Bubbles.

Bush promoted Keynesian Economics, which blew through projected surpluses. We will always be broke. We owe 100s of TRILLIONS in unfunded liabilites.

Obama simply took Bush's policies and furthered them. It's the American Consumer who is digging us out of this hole and still there's not enough of us.

Liberals don't have to live anything down because... yes... they control the mainstream media. They get to write the narratives that the dumbmasses have spoon fed to them.

Dauphin said:

V10LETBLUES said:

Let's see, Clinton was able to not be attacked by our own passenger jets. Was able to leave the economy in far better shape than he got it. And the nation prospered. Bush allowed us to suffer the worst attack on American soil in history.left the economy and the nation in ruins. Waged war againt the wrong nation. Blew through the projected surpluses and left us broke. ..and left Obama the daunting and costly job of cleaning up after Bush and bringing the nation back to life. It's going to take a long time for conservatives and republicans to live this down.

Took hits on the Trade Center, U.S.S. Cole. Enjoyed an economy fueled by the Tech and Housing Bubbles.

Bush promoted Keynesian Economics, which blew through projected surpluses. We will always be broke. We owe 100s of TRILLIONS in unfunded liabilites.

Obama simply took Bush's policies and furthered them. It's the American Consumer who is digging us out of this hole and still there's not enough of us.

Liberals don't have to live anything down because... yes... they control the mainstream media. They get to write the narratives that the dumbmasses have spoon fed to them.

Really?

http://www.freepress.net/...ship/chart

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Dauphin said:

Took hits on the Trade Center, U.S.S. Cole. Enjoyed an economy fueled by the Tech and Housing Bubbles.

Bush promoted Keynesian Economics, which blew through projected surpluses. We will always be broke. We owe 100s of TRILLIONS in unfunded liabilites.

Obama simply took Bush's policies and furthered them. It's the American Consumer who is digging us out of this hole and still there's not enough of us.

Liberals don't have to live anything down because... yes... they control the mainstream media. They get to write the narratives that the dumbmasses have spoon fed to them.

Really?

http://www.freepress.net/...ship/chart

My man, a ton of those companies are in the tank for Blue. Comcast, Viacom, Disney, Wasington Post, Time Warner, et al.

Even ol News Corp has a relationship with Hilary Clinton and President Obama!

http://sunlightfoundation...-politics/

Dauphin said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Really?

http://www.freepress.net/...ship/chart

My man, a ton of those companies are in the tank for Blue. Comcast, Viacom, Disney, Wasington Post, Time Warner, et al.

Even ol News Corp has a relationship with Hilary Clinton and President Obama!

http://sunlightfoundation...-politics/

I'm not a man. See how obliterate you can be about things that are actually quite obvious?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

V10LETBLUES said: