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Barack Obama says he eliminated EPA rule treating spilled milk like it was oil

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Funny how Libertarians and Conservatives don't give Obama credit when he gets rid of silly regulations. I guess it's just easier to hate everything he does.

"We got rid of one rule from 40 years ago that could have forced some dairy farmers to spend $10,000 a year proving that they could contain a spill – because milk was somehow classified as an oil," Obama said in the Jan. 24, 2012, speech.

Absurd as it may sound, the Environmental Protection Agency has long regulated milk the same way it does petroleum because of milk’s butter fat content. Vegetable oils fall in the same category.

According to the EPA’s website, milk has been regulated under the Spill Prevention Control and Countermeasure program since 1973, when the Clean Water Act took effect. The law was passed by Congress the preceding year over the veto of President Richard Nixon.

The EPA site says "since the SPCC rule became law in 1973, all kinds of oils including petroleum and edible oils (such as animal fats and vegetable oils) have been considered oils. This is because the SPCC rule gets its definition of ‘oil’ from the Clean Water Act."

In February 2009, the EPA announced that it intended to exclude milk and dairy farms from the spill rules governing oil products. Here’s what the announcement said:

"EPA proposes to exempt milk containers and associated piping and appurtenances from the SPCC requirements provided they are constructed according to the current applicable 3-A Sanitary Standards, and are subject to the current applicable Grade "A" Pasteurized Milk Ordinance," or similar state laws.

In simple English, that means large milk storage containers will no longer have to meet the EPA’s oil spill rules, provided storage tanks meet pasteurization laws.

The change took effect in April 2011.

"EPA determined that this unintended result of the current regulations – which were designed to prevent oil spill damage to inland waters and shorelines – placed unjustifiable burdens on dairy farmers," the agency said in a press release.

We’re not addressing Obama’s projection of costs of $10,000 to some farmers, but we note that the EPA estimated that the rule change would save the industry $140 million a year.

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Obama said his administration got rid of a rule that regulated milk in the same manner as oil, as an environmental hazard when spilled.

The original regulation had been in effect since 1973, and the EPA under Obama moooooooved it out in April 2011. We rate the claim True.

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Reply #1 posted 02/17/12 4:03pm

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Cool! Not sure it is really that big of an issue. But still good job.

I remember reading an argument for baning breast feeding as the mike was a bio-hazard!

as far as giving him credit? if this is one of the examples of credit worthy acts... confused

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Reply #2 posted 02/17/12 4:14pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

Cool! Not sure it is really that big of an issue. But still good job.

I remember reading an argument for baning breast feeding as the mike was a bio-hazard!

as far as giving him credit? if this is one of the examples of credit worthy acts... confused

Sigh....try reading the whole thing:

We’re not addressing Obama’s projection of costs of $10,000 to some farmers, but we note that the EPA estimated that the rule change would save the industry $140 million a year.

If you're a dairy farmer, I'm sure you'd be happy about this. As well as Libertarians that bounce on how EPA does have some stupid regulations that cost private businesses money and need to go away. Well, here is one!

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Reply #3 posted 02/17/12 4:15pm

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rudedog said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

Cool! Not sure it is really that big of an issue. But still good job.

I remember reading an argument for baning breast feeding as the mike was a bio-hazard!

as far as giving him credit? if this is one of the examples of credit worthy acts... confused

Sigh....try reading the whole thing:

We’re not addressing Obama’s projection of costs of $10,000 to some farmers, but we note that the EPA estimated that the rule change would save the industry $140 million a year.

If you're a dairy farmer, I'm sure you'd be happy about this. As well as Libertarians that bounce on how EPA does have some stupid regulations that cost private businesses money and need to go away. Well, here is one!

i read it, I missed nothing. I give him props but as i said it the scheme of things... this is small potatoEs!

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