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Last night's elections It's pretty funny watching Republicans or tea partiers or independents or whatever they call themselves this hour, running around all excited about winning a couple governorships.
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RodeoSchro said: It's pretty funny watching Republicans or tea partiers or independents or whatever they call themselves this hour, running around all excited about winning a couple governorships.
But for some reason, they won't talk about the two Congressional special elections held yesterday. Especially the one in New York. The Democrat won that won (and won the one in California, too). What's amazing about that is that the district is solidly Republican - the GOP had held the seat for the last 16 years (not the last 100, like some stories say). And if you go look at the election results from 1996 forward in that district, the GOP was in absolute cakewalks. The GOP candidate never failed to poll less than 60%, and one year ran unopposed. That's right - in 2002, there wasn't a single Democrat in the district that would even run. Even more amazing is that the GOP won the district last year, and by a wide margin. Yet here we are one year later, and BOOM! The district votes Democratic. And it kicked to the curb the hand-picked darling of Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. THAT is the big story of the 2009 elections. And as usual, the Republicans/tea partiers/independents/whatever they are have totally missed it. I agree except a lot the mainstream media is making a big deal out of it, too. I thought New Jersey and Virginia typically were conservative in state elections. The exception was supporting Obama. | |
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Extremely saddened by Maine's insanity. I hope to see equality in the prime of my life and not on my deathbed. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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Obama wasn't on the ballot this time! Too many journalists try to write the Prez into these elections. Voting strictly on party lines is bad idea kiddies.
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realm said: Obama wasn't on the ballot this time! Too many journalists try to write the Prez into these elections. Voting strictly on party lines is bad idea kiddies.
VA/NJ: Exit polls say that Obama wasn't much of a factor in either state. In Virginia, evenly divided on whether they were voting to express support for or opposition to him. Is it irrelevant that Obama made four trips to NJ to help Corzine? Corzine still got crushed. | |
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deadmansbones said: RodeoSchro said: It's pretty funny watching Republicans or tea partiers or independents or whatever they call themselves this hour, running around all excited about winning a couple governorships.
But for some reason, they won't talk about the two Congressional special elections held yesterday. Especially the one in New York. The Democrat won that won (and won the one in California, too). What's amazing about that is that the district is solidly Republican - the GOP had held the seat for the last 16 years (not the last 100, like some stories say). And if you go look at the election results from 1996 forward in that district, the GOP was in absolute cakewalks. The GOP candidate never failed to poll less than 60%, and one year ran unopposed. That's right - in 2002, there wasn't a single Democrat in the district that would even run. Even more amazing is that the GOP won the district last year, and by a wide margin. Yet here we are one year later, and BOOM! The district votes Democratic. And it kicked to the curb the hand-picked darling of Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. THAT is the big story of the 2009 elections. And as usual, the Republicans/tea partiers/independents/whatever they are have totally missed it. I agree except a lot the mainstream media is making a big deal out of it, too. I thought New Jersey and Virginia typically were conservative in state elections. The exception was supporting Obama. New Jersey is consistantly a democratic state. | |
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YESWECAN said: deadmansbones said: I agree except a lot the mainstream media is making a big deal out of it, too. I thought New Jersey and Virginia typically were conservative in state elections. The exception was supporting Obama. New Jersey is consistantly a democratic state. shows what a failure Corzine was. It is less about the party and more about ther person. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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realm said: Obama wasn't on the ballot this time! Too many journalists try to write the Prez into these elections. Voting strictly on party lines is bad idea kiddies. VA/NJ: Exit polls say that Obama wasn't much of a factor in either state. In Virginia, evenly divided on whether they were voting to express support for or opposition to him. we picked our poison n va, the lesser of two evils, both candidates were aweful, well, I voted what I thought was the lesser of 2 evils but eviler prevailed imo. Oh well, we win some we lose some @least we still have obama on our side for the country. @least it's only 4yrs of mcdonald's then mayb we can have a happier meal. | |
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RodeoSchro said: It's pretty funny watching Republicans or tea partiers or independents or whatever they call themselves this hour, running around all excited about winning a couple governorships.
But for some reason, they won't talk about the two Congressional special elections held yesterday. Especially the one in New York. The Democrat won that won (and won the one in California, too). What's amazing about that is that the district is solidly Republican - the GOP had held the seat for the last 16 years (not the last 100, like some stories say). And if you go look at the election results from 1996 forward in that district, the GOP was in absolute cakewalks. The GOP candidate never failed to poll less than 60%, and one year ran unopposed. That's right - in 2002, there wasn't a single Democrat in the district that would even run. Even more amazing is that the GOP won the district last year, and by a wide margin. Yet here we are one year later, and BOOM! The district votes Democratic. And it kicked to the curb the hand-picked darling of Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. THAT is the big story of the 2009 elections. And as usual, the Republicans/tea partiers/independents/whatever they are have totally missed it. You're connecting the GOP and the NY 23 race. That's not what was happening here. The GOP had backed a very liberal RINO Dierdre Scozzafava. The tea partiers were more interested in voting a more conservative Hoffman. Scozzafava quit 3 days before the vote and endorsed the Dem Owens...showing her true colors or anger and still received 6% of the vote. The GOP screwed up by backing someone to get an R in and not backing an ideology. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: YESWECAN said: New Jersey is consistantly a democratic state. shows what a failure Corzine was. It is less about the party and more about ther person. How convenient to disaccoiate the person from the party when it doesn't work out. Obama thought he was worth the trouble. Was your leader who won't got to the wall for gays wrong? | |
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YESWECAN said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: shows what a failure Corzine was. It is less about the party and more about ther person. How convenient to disaccoiate the person from the party when it doesn't work out. Obama thought he was worth the trouble. Was your leader who won't got to the wall for gays wrong? In California, the state that voted for Obama, a republican governor replaced the most atrocious Democratic governor we've probably ever had. It happens. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Extremely saddened by Maine's insanity. I hope to see equality in the prime of my life and not on my deathbed.
I totally agree. There's no reason everyone shouldn't have the same rights, if there behavior doesn't disturb anyone else's liberties. I really think if the movement dropped the goal of calling it "marriage" that it would pass through. | |
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YESWECAN said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Extremely saddened by Maine's insanity. I hope to see equality in the prime of my life and not on my deathbed.
I totally agree. There's no reason everyone shouldn't have the same rights, if there behavior doesn't disturb anyone else's liberties. I really think if the movement dropped the goal of calling it "marriage" that it would pass through. why would you call it something it isn't? Besides, the same assholes who are leading the movement against gay marriage also want to fight to strip us of the rights we've achieved outside of the scope of marriage. Might as well just go for marriage in that case because the others will never be satisfied even if we santized the truth. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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RodeoSchro said: It's pretty funny watching Republicans or tea partiers or independents or whatever they call themselves this hour, running around all excited about winning a couple governorships.
But for some reason, they won't talk about the two Congressional special elections held yesterday. Especially the one in New York. The Democrat won that won (and won the one in California, too). What's amazing about that is that the district is solidly Republican - the GOP had held the seat for the last 16 years (not the last 100, like some stories say). And if you go look at the election results from 1996 forward in that district, the GOP was in absolute cakewalks. The GOP candidate never failed to poll less than 60%, and one year ran unopposed. That's right - in 2002, there wasn't a single Democrat in the district that would even run. Even more amazing is that the GOP won the district last year, and by a wide margin. Yet here we are one year later, and BOOM! The district votes Democratic. And it kicked to the curb the hand-picked darling of Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. THAT is the big story of the 2009 elections. And as usual, the Republicans/tea partiers/independents/whatever they are have totally missed it. I know. Daily Kos said something similar about this today. The Republicans are carrying on like they won something big. It is like putting duct tape on the Titanic and bragging about how you saved the Titanic. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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YESWECAN said: realm said: Obama wasn't on the ballot this time! Too many journalists try to write the Prez into these elections. Voting strictly on party lines is bad idea kiddies.
VA/NJ: Exit polls say that Obama wasn't much of a factor in either state. In Virginia, evenly divided on whether they were voting to express support for or opposition to him. Is it irrelevant that Obama made four trips to NJ to help Corzine? Corzine still got crushed. Corzine was a crappy candidate. He ran a terrible campaign. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: YESWECAN said: I totally agree. There's no reason everyone shouldn't have the same rights, if there behavior doesn't disturb anyone else's liberties. I really think if the movement dropped the goal of calling it "marriage" that it would pass through. why would you call it something it isn't? Besides, the same assholes who are leading the movement against gay marriage also want to fight to strip us of the rights we've achieved outside of the scope of marriage. Might as well just go for marriage in that case because the others will never be satisfied even if we santized the truth. It's not my problem with it. If gays get all the rights...who cares what they call it. | |
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JellyBean said: YESWECAN said: Is it irrelevant that Obama made four trips to NJ to help Corzine? Corzine still got crushed. Corzine was a crappy candidate. He ran a terrible campaign. So why would Obama hook his dingy to a sinking ship? He dumped the Virginia guy early on for that reason. Deeds couldn't make up his mind if he was pro Washington or not. | |
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YESWECAN said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: why would you call it something it isn't? Besides, the same assholes who are leading the movement against gay marriage also want to fight to strip us of the rights we've achieved outside of the scope of marriage. Might as well just go for marriage in that case because the others will never be satisfied even if we santized the truth. It's not my problem with it. If gays get all the rights...who cares what they call it. Personally I could care less, but like I said since these people want to strip us of other rights not related to marriage, we might as well go for the real thing. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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JellyBean said: RodeoSchro said: It's pretty funny watching Republicans or tea partiers or independents or whatever they call themselves this hour, running around all excited about winning a couple governorships.
But for some reason, they won't talk about the two Congressional special elections held yesterday. Especially the one in New York. The Democrat won that won (and won the one in California, too). What's amazing about that is that the district is solidly Republican - the GOP had held the seat for the last 16 years (not the last 100, like some stories say). And if you go look at the election results from 1996 forward in that district, the GOP was in absolute cakewalks. The GOP candidate never failed to poll less than 60%, and one year ran unopposed. That's right - in 2002, there wasn't a single Democrat in the district that would even run. Even more amazing is that the GOP won the district last year, and by a wide margin. Yet here we are one year later, and BOOM! The district votes Democratic. And it kicked to the curb the hand-picked darling of Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. THAT is the big story of the 2009 elections. And as usual, the Republicans/tea partiers/independents/whatever they are have totally missed it. I know. Daily Kos said something similar about this today. The Republicans are carrying on like they won something big. It is like putting duct tape on the Titanic and bragging about how you saved the Titanic. Like when you claimed that you've saved a job that wasn't in danger, because you gave them raises. Duct tape holds the world together  | |
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You're kinda missing the boat.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: YESWECAN said: It's not my problem with it. If gays get all the rights...who cares what they call it. Personally I could care less, but like I said since these people want to strip us of other rights not related to marriage, we might as well go for the real thing. Exactly, if they drop the marriage thing...that many believe is spelled out in the bible between a man and a woman... then I believe the rights would be approved in most states. | |
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Dauphin said: You're kinda missing the boat.
This is where the "Conservative" movement is beginning to break away from the Grand Old Party. All the Becks, Palins, Levins, et all are finally saying "You know what, I don't give a fuck if we lose, we're getting this train running." For all the talk about how Democrats are a splintered group of factions, wouldn't you know it is the Republicans who are breaking apart. Both parties have issues. Once these a holes feel safe all they do is get re elected and do each other favors to keep it that way. All of a sudden there are some 40 Blue dog Dems that aren't on line with the healthcare. Damn sure they on board with the program until May or so. | |
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YESWECAN said: JellyBean said: I know. Daily Kos said something similar about this today. The Republicans are carrying on like they won something big. It is like putting duct tape on the Titanic and bragging about how you saved the Titanic. Like when you claimed that you've saved a job that wasn't in danger, because you gave them raises. Duct tape holds the world together Hindsight is always 20/20 Gotta love the duct tape  “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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YESWECAN said: Dauphin said: You're kinda missing the boat.
This is where the "Conservative" movement is beginning to break away from the Grand Old Party. All the Becks, Palins, Levins, et all are finally saying "You know what, I don't give a fuck if we lose, we're getting this train running." For all the talk about how Democrats are a splintered group of factions, wouldn't you know it is the Republicans who are breaking apart. Both parties have issues. Once these a holes feel safe all they do is get re elected and do each other favors to keep it that way. All of a sudden there are some 40 Blue dog Dems that aren't on line with the healthcare. Damn sure they on board with the program until May or so. I will agree with you on that one, both parties have their issues and the whole blue dog mess. But the blue dogs get what they get. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Extremely saddened by Maine's insanity. I hope to see equality in the prime of my life and not on my deathbed.
I'm tempted to open a new thread on this. Don't you think you already have equal rights, but it's the government that is repressing you? That's my opinion on this. You don't need more nanny state protections. The rights have been given to you just by being alive and a citizen of the United States. It's the Government that has created laws that impede your ability to duplicate rights that hetero-sexual couples have. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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JellyBean said: YESWECAN said: Like when you claimed that you've saved a job that wasn't in danger, because you gave them raises. Duct tape holds the world together Hindsight is always 20/20 Gotta love the duct tape Hindsight is not when I were claiming it was BS in before the stim package. All we got was the "racist, rightwinger"...beat down. Oh and the everlasting "give him a chance" crap. | |
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YESWECAN said: JellyBean said: Hindsight is always 20/20 Gotta love the duct tape Hindsight is not when I were claiming it was BS in before the stim package. All we got was the "racist, rightwinger"...beat down. Oh and the everlasting "give him a chance" crap. I can speak and write in english...it's just harder while trying to cook two meals for dinner  | |
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YESWECAN said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Personally I could care less, but like I said since these people want to strip us of other rights not related to marriage, we might as well go for the real thing. Exactly, if they drop the marriage thing...that many believe is spelled out in the bible between a man and a woman... then I believe the rights would be approved in most states. No not exactly. Go for marriage since they want us to have nothing. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: YESWECAN said: Exactly, if they drop the marriage thing...that many believe is spelled out in the bible between a man and a woman... then I believe the rights would be approved in most states. No not exactly. Go for marriage since they want us to have nothing. That's just stubborn. You'll have to wait a generation or more to get over that one for a title. | |
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YESWECAN said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: No not exactly. Go for marriage since they want us to have nothing. That's just stubborn. You'll have to wait a generation or more to get over that one for a title. We have learned from the black struggle, that you don't settle for the back of the bus. . [Edited 11/4/09 20:16pm] 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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