D.C. AIDS spending full of waste - 1 in 15 black men HIV/AIDS in DC

WASHINGTON In a city ravaged by the highest rate of AIDS cases in the nation, the D.C. Health Department paid millions to non-profit groups that delivered substandard services or failed to account for any work at all, even as sick people searched for care or died waiting.
http://www.journalgazette...066/NEWS03

OUTFUKINGRAGEOUS! about $16 million a year was divided among 90 small non-profit groups. In all, one dollar of every three went to groups with identified deficiencies.

Where did the $$$ GO??? DC???
[Edited 10/18/09 14:07pm]

1 in 15 men?!

JayJai said:

1 in 15 men?!

paisleypark4 said:

JayJai said:

1 in 15 men?!

Thats what I am saying!

What are the other stances on other nationalities?

Latest report from CDC in July 2009
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/to...ivaidsrace

Race or Ethnicity
AIDS Cases by Race/Ethnicity

how do they know if that statistic is true or not? i dont know any black people with HIV neither does any other of my black friends and relatives and since whites make up the majority population of this country wouldn't their statistics be higher? this country always wants to make black people look bad look at the way they protray Africa

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PurpleDiamond2009 said:

how do they know if that statistic is true or not? i dont know any black people with HIV neither does any other of my black friends and relatives and since whites make up the majority population of this country wouldn't their statistics be higher? this country always wants to make black people look bad look at the way they protray Africa

well not surprising given that so many black men still don't use protection, have varying partners, do have health insurance or don't make use of the insurance they do have and don't bother to get tested.


now my question is....do they have HIV or AIDS? HIV is no longer an absolute death sentence but AIDS still is.

Also, if these stats are correct then how come we don't hear more about this? Where is Al Sharpton and Farrakhan? Where are all the rappers who like to sing about gettin Hos and what not?


This could be fake or it could be true...in any case there is not enough education of black men and STDs no matter what kind. I think there are more dudes out there with the herpes and gonnorhea than the HIV.


Ugh...this thread is depressing.

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a major issue is the way HIV is viewed. many still view HIV as a gay issue therefore institutions that would be the most adventagous to help the Black Community, the Black Churches, do little or not enough to bring attention to the subject.

DesireeNevermind said:

ehuffnsd said:

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ehuffnsd said:

paisleypark4 said:

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DesireeNevermind said:

ehuffnsd said:

Time for some schooling here
H.I.V. human immunodeficiency virus
A.I.D.S. acquired immune deficiency syndrome

The major difference is a virus. the other is a syndrome. one causes the other.

Currently AIDS is defined as a Tcell count below 250 and have had at least two of 20 so called opportunistic infections.

There are three classifications of People Living with HIV
HIV Asymptomatic - perfectly healthy with the exception of the presence of the virus

HIV Symptomatic- tcell count above 250 but having some opportunistic infectoin

AIDS

with advances in medical technology it is possible to get ones tcell count back above 250 and to treat the infections however once you are classified as having AIDS you are never reclassified if you health improves.

yeah yeah i know that already but you're not really answering my question. Do these guys have HIV or do they have full blown AIDS?



and what do you mean "so called" opportunistic infections.

ehuffnsd said:

DesireeNevermind said:

yeah yeah i know that already but you're not really answering my question. Do these guys have HIV or do they have full blown AIDS?



and what do you mean "so called" opportunistic infections.

because most of the infections don't occur in health individuals.

AIDS cases is separately classified from HIV infections, however like i said not everyone who is classified as an AIDS patient is at the currently defined medical definition of AIDS. I know people that AIDS cases that better numbers than I do and i'm just HIV Asymptomatic

therefore in todays time i'm not certain if trying knowing the different numbers really mean anything. tracking of the deaths cause by AIDS related illness would be a better indicator in my mind of what groups are less likely to get the treatment and care they need.

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DesireeNevermind said:

ehuffnsd said:[quote]

DesireeNevermind said:

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DesireeNevermind said:

DesireeNevermind said:

2elijah said:

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DesireeNevermind said:

Still there is no excuse for so called black leaders to ignore such statistics if true. I still ask where is loud mouth Sharpton and oh so informed Farrakhan. Shit Louis' people were suppose to be doing prison outreach.

Also, why would these statistics be limited to DC? Black men are imprisoned at alarming rates throughout the country so shouldn't we see the same rates in other major metropolitan areas or even rural areas where health care and education is probably less available and sought out? And even if other populations, say white and hispanic were imprisoned at the same rates then that doesn't mean the effect on the community would be the same because again, you have to think prison population to general population ratios. Whites and Hispanic are a larger population than blacks. I think we still wouldn't see a 1 in 15 rate. It just seems to me that these numbers could possibly be skewed or misinterpreted due to possibly faulty data - we already see the non-profits weren't doing their jobs so maybe the medical community and news media aren't doing theirs either with respect to accurate information.

I wonder if it were 100% accurate then you shouldn't we also have a higher rate of black women with HIV/AIDS and even higher rate of children born with the virus/disease or even higher infant mortality rate? You figure one black man with several black girlfriends (and throw in a couple boyfriends and non-black girlfriends) and nobody using condoms. With that kind of unsafe sex then all the black folks between say 15 and 45 ought to be infected....but uh...they are not are they. Isn't the black male population in DC only 27% ? That would mean that 4% are infected but the article gives figures for 8% . It just isn't adding up for me.

DesireeNevermind said:

2elijah said:

Let's remember that you have a large population of Black males in prison in the U.S., then they come out and sleep with straight women (wives, girlfriends, etc.) if the shoe was on the other foot,and another race exceeded that prison population, I guarantee it would have the same statistics


Secondly, only recently, a couple of years ago, the statistics revealed Black men were at the top of the list. There are many in the black community being educated about this, much more than before, unfortunately, our community waited until the statistics became way too high.


I believe the more young, black males go to prison, the more will come out with this disease. Point is, the education is out there, and I see more info about it in the black community than ever before. However, I don't see that info going out as much in other communities. Also, the black church is not the end all be all resourc for the entire black community, it is up the black community as a whole to educate themselves, through schools, colleges, individually, etc. Community health centers are a big help as well. Information on Hiv/Aids is definitely being taught now more than ever in the black community, unfortunately it was done, when the statistics have become way too high, but at least it's a start.

Still there is no excuse for so called black leaders to ignore such statistics if true. I still ask where is loud mouth Sharpton and oh so informed Farrakhan. Shit Louis' people were suppose to be doing prison outreach.

Also, why would these statistics be limited to DC? Black men are imprisoned at alarming rates throughout the country so shouldn't we see the same rates in other major metropolitan areas or even rural areas where health care and education is probably less available and sought out? And even if other populations, say white and hispanic were imprisoned at the same rates then that doesn't mean the effect on the community would be the same because again, you have to think prison population to general population ratios. Whites and Hispanic are a larger population than blacks. I think we still wouldn't see a 1 in 15 rate. It just seems to me that these numbers could possibly be skewed or misinterpreted due to possibly faulty data - we already see the non-profits weren't doing their jobs so maybe the medical community and news media aren't doing theirs either with respect to accurate information.

I wonder if it were 100% accurate then you shouldn't we also have a higher rate of black women with HIV/AIDS and even higher rate of children born with the virus/disease or even higher infant mortality rate? You figure one black man with several black girlfriends (and throw in a couple boyfriends and non-black girlfriends) and nobody using condoms. With that kind of unsafe sex then all the black folks between say 15 and 45 ought to be infected....but uh...they are not are they. Isn't the black male population in DC only 27% ? That would mean that 4% are infected but the article gives figures for 8% . It just isn't adding up for me.

Mstrustme said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Still there is no excuse for so called black leaders to ignore such statistics if true. I still ask where is loud mouth Sharpton and oh so informed Farrakhan. Shit Louis' people were suppose to be doing prison outreach.

Also, why would these statistics be limited to DC? Black men are imprisoned at alarming rates throughout the country so shouldn't we see the same rates in other major metropolitan areas or even rural areas where health care and education is probably less available and sought out? And even if other populations, say white and hispanic were imprisoned at the same rates then that doesn't mean the effect on the community would be the same because again, you have to think prison population to general population ratios. Whites and Hispanic are a larger population than blacks. I think we still wouldn't see a 1 in 15 rate. It just seems to me that these numbers could possibly be skewed or misinterpreted due to possibly faulty data - we already see the non-profits weren't doing their jobs so maybe the medical community and news media aren't doing theirs either with respect to accurate information.

I wonder if it were 100% accurate then you shouldn't we also have a higher rate of black women with HIV/AIDS and even higher rate of children born with the virus/disease or even higher infant mortality rate? You figure one black man with several black girlfriends (and throw in a couple boyfriends and non-black girlfriends) and nobody using condoms. With that kind of unsafe sex then all the black folks between say 15 and 45 ought to be infected....but uh...they are not are they. Isn't the black male population in DC only 27% ? That would mean that 4% are infected but the article gives figures for 8% . It just isn't adding up for me.

- I'm skeptical of the numbers myself; I'd have to go back to the CDC site to see how they compile their data but if black people are getting tested for HIV/AIDS more than any other group then the numbers are probably inflated and unreliable

ehuffnsd said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Still there is no excuse for so called black leaders to ignore such statistics if true. I still ask where is loud mouth Sharpton and oh so informed Farrakhan. Shit Louis' people were suppose to be doing prison outreach.

Also, why would these statistics be limited to DC? Black men are imprisoned at alarming rates throughout the country so shouldn't we see the same rates in other major metropolitan areas or even rural areas where health care and education is probably less available and sought out? And even if other populations, say white and hispanic were imprisoned at the same rates then that doesn't mean the effect on the community would be the same because again, you have to think prison population to general population ratios. Whites and Hispanic are a larger population than blacks. I think we still wouldn't see a 1 in 15 rate. It just seems to me that these numbers could possibly be skewed or misinterpreted due to possibly faulty data - we already see the non-profits weren't doing their jobs so maybe the medical community and news media aren't doing theirs either with respect to accurate information.

I wonder if it were 100% accurate then you shouldn't we also have a higher rate of black women with HIV/AIDS and even higher rate of children born with the virus/disease or even higher infant mortality rate? You figure one black man with several black girlfriends (and throw in a couple boyfriends and non-black girlfriends) and nobody using condoms. With that kind of unsafe sex then all the black folks between say 15 and 45 ought to be infected....but uh...they are not are they. Isn't the black male population in DC only 27% ? That would mean that 4% are infected but the article gives figures for 8% . It just isn't adding up for me.

the reason they are talking about DC, is becasue the story is about grossly mishandled funds allocated for the treatment and care of PWAs

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So why are these men ignoring the precautions? It is not about educating them, they all know. It is not about access to condoms and clean needles. It seems to be informed denial of risk.

DesireeNevermind said:

Ok so now the numbers have escalated depending on what article you read? And I'm somewhat surprised the infection rate among women is not higher due to the drug problem.

HIV/AIDS Rate in D.C. Hits 3%
Considered a 'Severe' Epidemic, Every Mode of Transmission Is Increasing, City Study Finds

At least 3 percent of District residents have HIV or AIDS, a total that far surpasses the 1 percent threshold that constitutes a "generalized and severe" epidemic, according to a report scheduled to be released by health officials tomorrow.

That translates into 2,984 residents per every 100,000 over the age of 12 -- or 15,120 -- according to the 2008 epidemiology report by the District's HIV/AIDS office.

"Our rates are higher than West Africa," said Shannon L. Hader, director of the District's HIV/AIDS Administration, who once led the Federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's work in Zimbabwe. "They're on par with Uganda and some parts of Kenya."

"We have every mode of transmission" -- men having sex with men, heterosexual and injected drug use -- "going up, all on the rise, and we have to deal with them," Hader said.

In addition to the epidemiology report, the city is also releasing a study on heterosexual behavior tomorrow. That report, funded by the CDC, was conducted by the George Washington University School of Health and Health Services.

Among its findings: Almost half of those who had connections to the parts of the city with the highest AIDS prevalence and poverty rates said they had overlapping sexual partners within the past 12 months, three in five said they were aware of their own HIV status, and three in 10 said they had used a condom the last time they had sex.

Together, the reports offer a sobering assessment in a city that for years has stumbled in combating HIV and AIDS and is just beginning to regain its footing. A more accurate accounting of the crisis offers a chance to contain what is largely a preventable disease

So urgent is the concern that the HIV/AIDS Administration took the relatively rare step of couching the city's infections in a percentage, harkening to 1992, when San Francisco, around the height of its epidemic, announced that 4 percent of its population was HIV positive. But the report also cautions that "we know that the true number of residents currently infected and living with HIV is certainly higher."

The District's report found a 22 percent increase in HIV and AIDS cases from the 12,428 reported at the end of 2006, touching every race and sex across population and neighborhoods, with an epidemic level in all but one of the eight wards. Black men, with an infection rate of nearly 7 percent, carry the weight of the disease, according to the report, which also underscores that the District's HIV and AIDS population is aging. Almost 1 in 10 residents between the ages of 40 and 49 has the virus.

The report notes that "this growing population will have significant implications on the District's health care system" as residents face chronic medical problems associated with aging and fighting a disease that compromises the immune system.

Men having sex with men has remained the disease's leading mode of transmission. Heterosexual transmission and injection drug use closely follow, the report says. Three percent of black women carry the virus, partly a result of the increase in heterosexual transmissions.

"This is very, very depressing news, especially considering HIV's profound impact on minority communities," said Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institutes of Health's program on infectious diseases. "And remember: The city's numbers are just based on people who've gotten tested."


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http://www.washingtonpost...02176.html

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ehuffnsd said:

There is NO lack of understanding. A few are victims of cheating or drug using partners however most of them are KNOWNLY taking risks.

Now the issue of prison/jail is interesting. Drugs and sex are to be had, and there are no condom or clean needle programs in the lock up. So the question is... should there be?

OnlyNDaUsa said: