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Typical response when liberals are exposed to reality....

Typical response when liberals are exposed to reality....

seekingtruth said:

Says the same poster who usually exits a discussion when he has no answer himself?
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seekingtruth said:

What is your response about health care reform? Do you think we should not do anything? Do you think it is okay for millions of people not to have insurance. I know some decide not to have insurance but there are millions who want to have insurance and cannot afford it.

So are you for the Status Quo?

Katana750 said:

No one is saying do nothing. That is just not the case. There are many ideas that have been suggested by the right to help bring the cost down. And it is the obama and the far LEFT that refuse to listen to them. Obama has had it as his plan for YEARS to create single payer in the US. So he will ignore any ideas that are not moving us in that direction.

Why was the ideas not implemented when the Republicans had control of the house/senate and the white house? Is one of the idea TORT Reform?

Katana750 said:

G W Bush passed the largest health care reform bill in our history. So to say they did nothing is not accurate.

Did the bill bring down the cost? Did the bill insure more people than what was in 2000?

Katana750 said:

Do you think the obama bill will reduce the cost?

MrSoulpower said:

Exactly. That and him calling people demwits, ignorant, idiotic or whatever other name when he has nothing of substance to add.

Vendetta1 said:

I see someone has gotten their weekly talking points email and regurgitated it here yet again with little or no analysis.

Then starts every thread with name calling and labels, and has the nerve to wonder why the thread isn't showered with responses.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

We don't know that. Why should anyone listen to ideas from a group that implemented something and it did not work? Is it better to see what the other side has to offer when your ideas failed and infact made it worse?

Katana750 said:

No one is saying do nothing. That is just not the case. There are many ideas that have been suggested by the right to help bring the cost down. And it is the obama and the far LEFT that refuse to listen to them. Obama has had it as his plan for YEARS to create single payer in the US. So he will ignore any ideas that are not moving us in that direction.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

TELL

US

WHAT

THOSE

THINGS

ARE

So far in none of these discussions are Republicans able to articulate what the Republican plan is other than leaving things the way they are!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Allow insurance companies to sell across state lines.

Allow medical expenses to be be 100% deductible as an adjustment (with credits for low income)

Make medical savings accounts available pre-tax for anyone.

Tort reform.

Drop sales tax where such things are taxed

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This is only important to do once they are out of power? They have power, they do nothing. They don't have power, they expect to call the shots. Dems need to ram this down their throats til the party chokes to death.....

Typical response when liberals are exposed to reality....

here's a challenge: name just ONE nation that already has some form of universal health care, that would like to remove it and trade it for a US style system.


ONE!!

should be really easy if systems suck so much in most other nations, as you always claim

NOTHING

Typical response when liberals are exposed to reality....

seekingtruth said:

so are you still seeking? go figure

Typical response when corporate bots are exposed to reality....


I might add that this thread hit's a new low, even by your standards. first you start a thread and within 90 minutes complain, that you do not get replies.
and after you do get replies, you do not post even one more time but rather run for the hills and abandon your own thread wreck.

so then i ask in all seriousness, why on earth should anyone ever be interested to engage in a "debate" with you, ever again? I see no reason whatsoever.

Vendetta1 said:

I see someone has gotten their weekly talking points email and regurgitated it here yet again with little or no analysis.

Then starts every thread with name calling and labels, and has the nerve to wonder why the thread isn't showered with responses.

seekingtruth said:

please explain, why anyone should still be interested in your run-for-the hills "debating"? you almost never face hard facts when presented to you, you made that clear many many times in the past. and yet after 90 minutes you already start whining for the lack of responses to your same old shlock "reality" ? serious question: do you expect others to actually READ the articles and probably even do RESEARCH themselves? or do you just expect them to drop some ad-hoc automatic ignore type response, like you and most conservatives usually do? true dat, the latter takes no time at all. but please accept that others ar not simplistic trained automated bots, okay?

but here's a shot, just for you... your "reality" = first an article by a consultant for private health insurers, certainly a guy with NO AGENDA at all and second, some freaking BLOG?!?! are you fucking kidding us??? if that's how and where you get your "facts" this explains a lot



hey genius, you had six weeks to answer a challenge I put forward to you in a past thread, a challenge I even repeated in a later thread. so let me try once more... third time lucky maybe? or will I once again get the typical response when THIS conservative is exposed to reality ???

repost from http://prince.org/msg/105/318462




I'm waiting... so come on , surpise me




and as for your "reality" as posted in this thread, just this, once again..

universal health care works in all other industrialized nations. that's the REALITY. IT WORKS. WORKS WORKS WORKS.

but if you always repeat your stance, that for various reasons Americans are simply too dumb to get such a thing working, even after some already existing models available, then maybe I'll have to take your word for it


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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Allow insurance companies to sell across state lines.

All the hacks get money from insurance lobbyist in there states. They'll never let it go!

Allow medical expenses to be be 100% deductible as an adjustment (with credits for low income)

It makes too much sense and doesn't victimize those filthy rich bastards

Make medical savings accounts available pre-tax for anyone.

They want more taxes not less

Tort reform.

Lawyers taking care of Lawyers. The more money an individual has the better they're lawsuit. I don't understand how these liberals don't latch on to this injustice.

Drop sales tax where such things are taxed

That's the big problem with the government take over. Once a third of the nation is getting something for free, what "POLITICIAN" would stand up and take it away. This thing won't be as Obama said "budget neutral" and the savings won't be for the majority of the people on it.