Has anyone seen Capitalism yet?

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Has anyone seen Capitalism yet?

I just saw it tonight and would love to talk about it.

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Reply #1 posted 10/06/09 8:54pm

Imago

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I'm looking for it. Hopefully I'll see it before week's end.

What were your thoughts? Moore was interviewed on NPR with regards to the film and he seemed very candid and down to earth about it.

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Reply #2 posted 10/06/09 8:59pm

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Imago said:

I'm looking for it. Hopefully I'll see it before week's end.

What were your thoughts? Moore was interviewed on NPR with regards to the film and he seemed very candid and down to earth about it.

I'll write more about it tomorrow because I'm exhausted right now but I think everyone should see this movie.

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Reply #3 posted 10/06/09 9:18pm

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almost did yesterday, but opted for toy story and toy story 2 in 3d instead

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Reply #4 posted 10/07/09 8:56am

OnlyNDaUsa	I think I will watch it when it is on bootleg. I would hate to feed the monster that is the Hollywood capitalist machine with my $7! (that and I do not have 7 dollars)
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Reply #5 posted 10/07/09 12:59pm

JellyBean	I will be watching it this weekend. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara
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Reply #6 posted 10/07/09 3:28pm

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First thought: Michael Moore is full of shit. I love the guy but he is soooo full of shit. He puts stuff out there without backing it up with facts.

I hate when anyone doesn't tell the whole truth. He talked about how Bush was responsible for the 700 billion dollar bailout but he left out the fact that Obama releasedt he other half of it with no stipulations to Wall Street. He also left out personal accountability for some of his subjects.

Overall, I think everyone should see this movie. The parts that are true will make you angry. I felt totally helpless and hopeless afterward.

God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
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Reply #7 posted 10/07/09 5:28pm

realm

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Plan to watch it soon. I don't get the religious freaky stuff of the flix but bet it will have lots of good info and humor. MM usually delivers.

Would Jesus day trade? Would God approve of the DOW? Who the fuck cares. BUT some of the corruption MM exposes will be cool to see.

Reply #8 posted 10/07/09 5:42pm

Mars23

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Vendetta1 said:

He footnotes all of his movies. How entertaining would it be to just sit through two hours of factchecking?

http://www.michaelmoore.c...love-story

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Reply #9 posted 10/07/09 7:39pm

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Mars23 said:

Vendetta1 said:

He footnotes all of his movies. How entertaining would it be to just sit through two hours of factchecking?

http://www.michaelmoore.c...love-story

It checking his own facts. lol

I would love to discuss this movie with you guys. Please go see it.

God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
Stalkerwomen of the world unite in delusion!!!!! falloff

Reply #10 posted 10/08/09 1:01pm

2freaky4church
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I can't believe it took this long to post about the movie. That worries me..lol

Vendetta, I thought you were on the left? lol

He does back all his movies up. I heard he goes after Obama.

Wave your wildsigns high!!

Reply #11 posted 10/08/09 1:27pm

2freaky4church
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Matt Taibbi just zeros in on why we should not be so critical of Moore's movie flaws and look at the big picture:

http://www.alternet.org/b...o_kick_ass

We just love to dump on others, knowing full well that we are not doing a fucking thing, me included. I mean, how many who post here do activism on a regular basis? We sure love to talk a good game. The right wing believes in action, we don't, because we are too busy talking about flaws in a fucking movie instead of the points that make the basis of the movie important.

Sure Moore sometimes needs editing, but the basic thrust of his movies are spot on. We need to get off our asses and do something. Before it's too late. At least Moore is making these movies, risking something, while we sit on the couch eating bon bons, listening to too much Prince..lol

Wave your wildsigns high!!

Reply #12 posted 10/08/09 3:13pm

marxisreal

2freaky4church1 said:

Matt Taibbi just zeros in on why we should not be so critical of Moore's movie flaws and look at the big picture:

http://www.alternet.org/b...o_kick_ass

We just love to dump on others, knowing full well that we are not doing a fucking thing, me included. I mean, how many who post here do activism on a regular basis? We sure love to talk a good game. The right wing believes in action, we don't, because we are too busy talking about flaws in a fucking movie instead of the points that make the basis of the movie important.

Sure Moore sometimes needs editing, but the basic thrust of his movies are spot on. We need to get off our asses and do something. Before it's too late. At least Moore is making these movies, risking something, while we sit on the couch eating bon bons, listening to too much Prince..lol

I do.

It's fun.

Here's a review, from an "activist" perspective (as capitalism is very evil, it's rather long smile

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http://www.socialistalter...hp?id=1169

Reply #13 posted 10/08/09 4:14pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

I can't believe it took this long to post about the movie. That worries me..lol

Vendetta, I thought you were on the left? lol

He does back all his movies up. I heard he goes after Obama.

I am on the left, well mostly anyway. lol

God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
Stalkerwomen of the world unite in delusion!!!!! falloff

Reply #14 posted 10/09/09 3:03am

babynoz

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I've been trying to see the daggone thing all week but all of my pals have the flu.

I was going to go Friday or Saturday till I found out that I have a wake and funeral to attend. sad

If push comes to shove I'll go by myself on Sunday...I love Mike's films.

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Reply #15 posted 10/09/09 5:10am

seekingtruth

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Vendetta1 said:

I just saw it tonight and would love to talk about it.

Actually, I have to stay home and put wiener in a meat grinder....

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you really know.

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Reply #16 posted 10/09/09 5:11am

seekingtruth

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Nothing more entertaining than watching a man who has surfed the capitalist wave do a movie against capitalism....

Typical left hypocricy.

True genius is knowing how little
you really know.

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Reply #17 posted 10/09/09 6:02am

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seekingtruth said:

Nothing more entertaining than watching a man who has surfed the capitalist wave do a movie against capitalism....

Typical left hypocricy.

you're a capitalist and are hating on a guy for making money for his work? And please don't pretend the left has a lock on hypocrisy.

God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
Stalkerwomen of the world unite in delusion!!!!! falloff

Reply #18 posted 10/09/09 12:51pm

Tremolina

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Vendetta1 said:

Well then, which parts are true?

Reply #19 posted 10/09/09 2:17pm

Rightly

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2freaky4church1 said:

well said

small circles, big wheels!
I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious!

Reply #20 posted 10/09/09 7:38pm

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Tremolina said:

Vendetta1 said:

Well then, which parts are true?

I'll check Moore's factcheck site tomorrow and compare what i know to be true so my post can make sense to you.

God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
Stalkerwomen of the world unite in delusion!!!!! falloff

Reply #21 posted 10/10/09 3:07am

marxisreal

seekingtruth said:

Nothing more entertaining than watching a man who has surfed the capitalist wave do a movie against capitalism....

Typical left hypocricy.

A "real" capitalist lives off the unpaid labour of his workers. Michael Moore isn't in that category in any meaningful sense. He has a group of people who work for him, but he earns his money basically from his creativity. Pieces of art are not in the same way reproductive as cars, hamburgers, children's toys, or computers (on which people like 'seekingtruth' lol

type their unsubstantiated innuendo).

Reply #22 posted 10/10/09 6:32am

13cjk13

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marxisreal said:

seekingtruth said:

Nothing more entertaining than watching a man who has surfed the capitalist wave do a movie against capitalism....

Typical left hypocricy.

type their unsubstantiated innuendo).

'Unsubstantiated innuendo' is such a nice word for 'typical right wing bile'.

Reply #23 posted 10/10/09 9:29am

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Tremolina said:

Vendetta1 said:

Well then, which parts are true?

I went to Moore's site and
his facts are kinda bullshit because to me, he's only citing one source and you can always find statistics to agree with what you want them to. But most important is the relationship of Wall Street to the White House, how investors do not understand some investment instruments and the fact that we need to rise up and get our voices heard.

God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
Stalkerwomen of the world unite in delusion!!!!! falloff

Reply #24 posted 10/10/09 9:31am

marxisreal

13cjk13 said:

marxisreal said:

type their unsubstantiated innuendo).

'Unsubstantiated innuendo' is such a nice word for 'typical right wing bile'.

Mmm, you might be on to something... razz

Reply #25 posted 10/10/09 10:03am

Tremolina

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Vendetta1 said:

Tremolina said:

Well then, which parts are true?

Tell us more about that relationship

Reply #26 posted 10/10/09 11:24am

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Tremolina said:

Vendetta1 said:

Tell us more about that relationship

Well, you have Henry Paulson who was Sec of the Treasury and Timothy Geithner, who is the current Sec of the Treasury. Paulson ran Goldman Sachs and Geithner ran the Fed. Paulson cut the back alley deal to get the 700 billion dollar bailout done, against taxpayer wishes, and lo and behold, who is one of the companies that benefited? Goldman Sachs. I agree with Moore that Wall Street is running the White House. My feelings on Geithner are personal but I believe he did a shitty job running the Fed and the bailout of AIG and any other company was a mistake. I think the country would be better served with an economist as Sec of Treasury and not people looking out for their own interests but the greater good.

God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
Stalkerwomen of the world unite in delusion!!!!! falloff

Reply #27 posted 10/17/09 1:33pm

babynoz

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Vendetta1 said:

After seeing the film I'm back, as promised...needless to say, I had to calm down before I could write without using a whole bunch of profanity towards the theiving bastids and their enablers who are the focus of the movie.

The first thing that struck me was something that no one else noticed or questioned. Why has this film recieved an R rating? There was no excessive profanity, no nudity, sex, gore or gratituitous violence. There is no reason whatsoever for anything beyond a PG rating.

The second thing was how Moore draws a parellel between the Roman Empire and present day America showing how the seeds of decay have been planted as eventually happens in all empires.

As for Moore's facts, I've read where there are people who have some issues about the way some of the facts are presented, but the facts themselves remain true nevertheless. For example, he only briefly touches on the personal responsibility of borrowers in the "bank of me" scene and spends a lot more time dissecting the activity of the banks. I didn't have a problem with it because the FBI bears out his assertion by reporting that the mortgage meltdown was indeed caused by the banking industry fraud for the most part.

http://www.fbi.gov/public...raud07.htm

Not only that, in the course of my work, I have personally seen some of the documents with my own eyes and heard the testimony of elderly and uneducated people who were specifically targeted and blatantly lied to by these vultures.

I was surprised to see our little courthouse in the skyline scene and even more suprised to see Max in the scene where the nine police cars responded to the house where the people refused to leave after being evicted.

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Max has been an activist in this community for several years now. The last initiative I worked on with him on was the Umoja Village movement.

My main criticism would be that Mike didn't go after the current administration hard enough because the foxes are still in charge of the damn hen house and that's bad news.

I agree that everyone should see this movie but moreso those who still don't understand why unregulated capitalism is not some benign and benevolent system, otherwise Mike is just preaching to the choir.

Most of all I hope more of us will get informed, get motivated and get off our asses.