Mandatory Vaccination warning

Call me crazy, i can deal with that.
I am just here to tell you that something is in the works, and it`s not like "oh..nobody told me."
Here are two links for you, please inform yourself. Don`t believe what i say, or anybody else, make up your mind, inform yourself, collect as much information as you possibly can.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...r_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/wa...PnCz_rtIv8

http://www.youtube.com/wa...tube_gdata

http://www.youtube.com/wa...elTWCUmTsU

Jane is a young woman living in Vienna who, while working as a medical editor, was horrified to learn in early 2009 of the fiasco in which a Baxter International research facility in Orth-Donau, Austria, sent a quantity of human H3N2 viral material to 18 European laboratories.

Such a supply of experimental material would have been totally normal - except that in this instance the H3N2 had been somehow contaminated with live H5N1... the far more lethal Avian Flu.

As a medical editor, Jane immediately realized the import of what had happened - and what had nearly happened - and raised the alarm. But no-one in the Austrian media was interested. She then took matters into her own hands and filed legal charges against those who she considered the perpetrators to be.

Very soon after, Jane was dismissed from her job without explanation. Undeterred, she sought support on the internet and continued her campaign. In the months since then she has attracted committed followers - and critics - all over the world. She is not alone in suspecting that there exists a literally diabolical plan which is nothing less than the genocide of potentially hundreds of millions of people worldwide.

Kind of off topic, but for all of those screaming that there is no link between vaccines and autism, here is a new study.....


http://www.ageofautism.co...-boys.html

Oh, not this paranoid bullshit again...

Pick up a medical journal or two, and a biology textbook while you're at it, folks. The link between vaccinations and autism is negligible. There have been no studies that conclusively prove a link.

Stop looking for something easy to blame autism on, and invest some energy into looking for the real cause of autism spectrum disorders, whether it be genetic or environmental or both.

That's an entirely different topic from what this thread is about.Wasn't that discussion going on elsewhere? Call me crazy,but I think we should stick to the thread starter's topic.

This topic scares me.....
I have heard alot of debate regarding vaccinations as I'm sure we all have. I have heard alot because I used to work for Scientologists (which is not for me hence why I lost my job).
It is all very scarey to me and even after all of it I decide to vaccinate my children. I do not allow them to get the flu shot though and noone in my household has ever gotten the flu but I do know of those who get the shot then immediately get the flu.....
All of these new vaccinations really frighten me. Are they produced by greed or are they really for out best interest?? Either way we are taking a chance. I have already decided that when something is "new" I will wait it out to see what the outcome and side-effects turn out to be.

meow85 said:

Oh, not this paranoid bullshit again...

Pick up a medical journal or two, and a biology textbook while you're at it, folks. The link between vaccinations and autism is negligible. There have been no studies that conclusively prove a link.

Stop looking for something easy to blame autism on, and invest some energy into looking for the real cause of autism spectrum disorders, whether it be genetic or environmental or both.

illimack said:

meow85 said:

Oh, not this paranoid bullshit again...

Pick up a medical journal or two, and a biology textbook while you're at it, folks. The link between vaccinations and autism is negligible. There have been no studies that conclusively prove a link.

Stop looking for something easy to blame autism on, and invest some energy into looking for the real cause of autism spectrum disorders, whether it be genetic or environmental or both.

Oh no, not you again with your holier than thou "I know everything and everyone else is dumb" attitude. No matter how many "scientific studies I post, you disregard them and repeat the mantra.....vaccines are safe. Care to read the article that talks about a study done by scientist and posted in a scientific journal?

Anyway, off topic and thread jacking..... sorry!

Back on topic.....

I don't think that they would get away with this shit in America. There are too many folks with guns.

Anyways I think the Swine Flu was invented by the government to cover up Dick Chaney's trouble. Look it up. Like the bird flu was created to cover up all of Bush's screw ups.

illimack said:

meow85 said:

Oh, not this paranoid bullshit again...

Pick up a medical journal or two, and a biology textbook while you're at it, folks. The link between vaccinations and autism is negligible. There have been no studies that conclusively prove a link.

Stop looking for something easy to blame autism on, and invest some energy into looking for the real cause of autism spectrum disorders, whether it be genetic or environmental or both.

Oh no, not you again with your holier than thou "I know everything and everyone else is dumb" attitude. No matter how many "scientific studies I post, you disregard them and repeat the mantra.....vaccines are safe. Care to read the article that talks about a study done by scientist and posted in a scientific journal?

Anyway, off topic and thread jacking..... sorry!

Back on topic.....

I don't think that they would get away with this shit in America. There are too many folks with guns.

shortnsweet said:

illimack said:

Oh no, not you again with your holier than thou "I know everything and everyone else is dumb" attitude. No matter how many "scientific studies I post, you disregard them and repeat the mantra.....vaccines are safe. Care to read the article that talks about a study done by scientist and posted in a scientific journal?

Anyway, off topic and thread jacking..... sorry!

Back on topic.....

I don't think that they would get away with this shit in America. There are too many folks with guns.

If I may offer my I think it is quite obvious there is a connection between autism and vaccinations.....

shortnsweet said:

meow85 said:

shortnsweet said:

Anyways I think the Swine Flu was invented by the government to cover up Dick Chaney's trouble. Look it up. Like the bird flu was created to cover up all of Bush's screw ups.

Both diseases have existed for decades. You mean to tell me "they" went back in time to develop a specialized kind of flu for the benefit of politicians of the present?


Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
[Edited 9/19/09 15:31pm]

http://www.publichealthla...fluphl.php

A lot of info and links there.

shortnsweet said:

meow85 said:

Both diseases have existed for decades. You mean to tell me "they" went back in time to develop a specialized kind of flu for the benefit of politicians of the present?


Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
[Edited 9/19/09 15:31pm]

Brought to the sufface THEN let me restate that....ANd it isn't just a freakin' coincidence when a child becomes "different" after their immunizations!!!
Ask Jenny McCarthy and all the other mothers that have experienced this!!!
[Edited 9/20/09 13:43pm]

This thread is one example of why so many people across the world get the impression that Americans are stupid.

meow85 said:

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meow85 said:

If by one-sided you mean prone to considering medical facts rather than paranoid nonsense, junk science, and celebrity opinions, then yes.

I've said nothing that isn't a matter of public knowledge. I have no idea where the anti-vaccine crowd gets the idea that discredited studies and Dr. Jenny McCarthy's opinion count as valid evidence, but they don't.

Yes Dr. Meow.....sheeesh.

Hot off the press:

Autism rates back MMR jab safety

By Michelle Roberts
Health reporter, BBC News


Latest autism figures should dispel any fears about the MMR jab being linked to the condition, say experts.

The NHS Information Centre found one in every hundred adults living in England has autism, which is identical to the rate in children.

If the vaccine was to blame, autism rates among children should be higher because the MMR has only been available since the early 1990s, the centre says.

This is the first time the rate in adults has been evaluated.

Tim Straughan, chief executive of The NHS Information Centre, said: "This landmark report is the first major study into the prevalence of autism spectrum disorders among adults to be carried out anywhere in the world.

"While the sample size was small and any conclusions need to be tempered with caution, the report suggests that, despite popular perceptions, rates of autism are not increasing, with prevalence among adults in line with that among children.

"It also suggests that, among adults, rates of autism remain broadly constant across age groups.

"The findings do not support suggestions of a link between the MMR vaccine and the development of this condition."

Concern over the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine was sparked by a paper published in The Lancet in 1998 by Dr Andrew Wakefield.

'Safe' vaccine

This research has since been discredited.

But, until now, little was known about how autism affected people over the course of a lifetime.

For example, autism rates could have been lower among older age groups because people had gradually recovered from the condition or died prematurely.

The latest findings, based on nearly 7,500 adults, suggests that this is not the case, and that prevalence of autism spectrum disorder remains broadly level across all age bands.

While 1% of adults had an autism spectrum disorder, the rate for men was higher (1.8%) than for women (0.2%). This was in line with studies among child populations which show higher rates amongst boys.

And in line with recent report from the National Audit Office, the study also found many of these adults are failing to get the diagnosis and specialist help they need.

Mr Straughan said: "This does beg some questions about whether services, as currently configured, are meeting the needs of this group of people."

Mark Lever, chief executive of the National Autistic Society, said: "The NAS has long campaigned to raise awareness of the fact that services and support for adults with autism are woefully inadequate.

"This study gives us further evidence to demand that more vital support is put in place."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...268302.stm

meow85 said:

illimack said:

Oh no, not you again with your holier than thou "I know everything and everyone else is dumb" attitude. No matter how many "scientific studies I post, you disregard them and repeat the mantra.....vaccines are safe. Care to read the article that talks about a study done by scientist and posted in a scientific journal?

Anyway, off topic and thread jacking..... sorry!

Back on topic.....

I don't think that they would get away with this shit in America. There are too many folks with guns.

If you posted any reputable studies that hadn't already been discredited, you might have an argument. There has never been a proven link between any vaccinations and autism spectrum disorders. I'm not saying it's impossible, but until there's reasonable evidence to believe so, it's nothing but paranoia and rumours.

razor said:

meow85 said:

shortnsweet said:

Yes Dr. Meow.....sheeesh.

You clearly don't have anything close to a valid argument or support for your insisting vaccinations are some kind of bogeyman, since you've refused to actually address anything I've said or post anything that could support your claims. Some people don't like to let facts get in the way of their opinion, and I guess you can be counted among their ranks, so I'll end this here.

Have fun with your polio.