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Christians and marijuana I can't find any good debates on the net about this topic. I'm a saved, born-again Christian, and I support medical marijuana. It recently became legal in Michigan (medicinal, anyway) and I qualify to become a registered user. I suffer from chronic muscle spasms and I'm being treated for cancer.
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if more christians smoked pot, there'd be less problems in the world today.
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Natural shit is better than most if not all pharmy crap to begin with.
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dustysgirl said: I can't find any good debates on the net about this topic. I'm a saved, born-again Christian, and I support medical marijuana. It recently became legal in Michigan (medicinal, anyway) and I qualify to become a registered user. I suffer from chronic muscle spasms and I'm being treated for cancer.
I used to be a weed-head, big time in my late teens. I got married, started going to church and just quit. No big deal. I've been suffering with excruciating back muscle spasms three and four times a year for eight years now. Nothing really helps but time. During my most recent episode, the dr. prescribed a different muscle relaxer. Didn't help. So far I've tried flexeril, soma, baclofen, valium and vicodin for the pain. The pain pills make me sick, and the muscle relaxers only zombify me, but don't stop the spasms. I'm pretty sure I suffer from tension myositis syndrome (spasms brought on by tension and stress). Anyway....The other day, I tried smoking a joint and had almost instant relief! I wasn't knocked out, just chilled-out, mellow and in a good mood. I hardly thought about my back at all. The spasms didn't come back for several hours. My dilemma is the religious thing...I don't feel bad about using. I'd only be using for pain anyway and what's the difference? Tons of pills or weed? I just know that my church folks would really think badly about me if they knew. Not that I'm telling them! I wondered what other Christian's views were on this? Would be best if you knew someone in your own fellowship who had medical knowledge you could talk this over with. As legal as Vicadin is, a Christian isn't immuned from abusing it despite the fact that it is "okay" in possibly most Chritian communities to use. Never again, not I. | |
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morningsong said: dustysgirl said: I can't find any good debates on the net about this topic. I'm a saved, born-again Christian, and I support medical marijuana. It recently became legal in Michigan (medicinal, anyway) and I qualify to become a registered user. I suffer from chronic muscle spasms and I'm being treated for cancer.
I used to be a weed-head, big time in my late teens. I got married, started going to church and just quit. No big deal. I've been suffering with excruciating back muscle spasms three and four times a year for eight years now. Nothing really helps but time. During my most recent episode, the dr. prescribed a different muscle relaxer. Didn't help. So far I've tried flexeril, soma, baclofen, valium and vicodin for the pain. The pain pills make me sick, and the muscle relaxers only zombify me, but don't stop the spasms. I'm pretty sure I suffer from tension myositis syndrome (spasms brought on by tension and stress). Anyway....The other day, I tried smoking a joint and had almost instant relief! I wasn't knocked out, just chilled-out, mellow and in a good mood. I hardly thought about my back at all. The spasms didn't come back for several hours. My dilemma is the religious thing...I don't feel bad about using. I'd only be using for pain anyway and what's the difference? Tons of pills or weed? I just know that my church folks would really think badly about me if they knew. Not that I'm telling them! I wondered what other Christian's views were on this? Would be best if you knew someone in your own fellowship who had medical knowledge you could talk this over with. As legal as Vicadin is, a Christian isn't immuned from abusing it despite the fact that it is "okay" in possibly most Chritian communities to use. Why medical knowledge? That isn't the dilemma. He has what works, so how do you convince you're fellow churchgoers? | |
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Don't worry about the other church goers. Does YOUR conscience bother you?
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lazycrockett said: Natural shit is better than most if not all pharmy crap to begin with.
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Roll that shit, light that shit, smoke that shit...
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dustysgirl said: My dilemma is the religious thing...I don't feel bad about using. I'd only be using for pain anyway and what's the difference? Tons of pills or weed? I just know that my church folks would really think badly about me if they knew. Not that I'm telling them!
I wondered what other Christian's views were on this? Where does it say in the bible that marihuana is bad and shouldnt be used? Hemp was used thousands of years before christ already, for medical purposes, recreational, religious purposes and industrial purposes like hemp rope, paper, clothing etc. Marihuana is a plant of nature. It has many functions. No reason to shun it when you use it for medical purposes. | |
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Tremolina said: dustysgirl said: My dilemma is the religious thing...I don't feel bad about using. I'd only be using for pain anyway and what's the difference? Tons of pills or weed? I just know that my church folks would really think badly about me if they knew. Not that I'm telling them!
I wondered what other Christian's views were on this? Where does it say in the bible that marihuana is bad and shouldnt be used? Hemp was used thousands of years before christ already, for medical purposes, recreational, religious purposes and industrial purposes like hemp rope, paper, clothing etc. Marijuana is a plant of nature. It has many functions. No reason to shun it when you use it for medical purposes. 
I just don't agree with smoking it though. People Call me Rude
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JayJai said: Tremolina said: Where does it say in the bible that marihuana is bad and shouldnt be used? Hemp was used thousands of years before christ already, for medical purposes, recreational, religious purposes and industrial purposes like hemp rope, paper, clothing etc. Marijuana is a plant of nature. It has many functions. No reason to shun it when you use it for medical purposes.
I just don't agree with smoking it though. a marihuana cup of tea or a cookie is an option too | |
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dannyd5050 said: God made the plant you're smoking so....
 I think God gave the devil/Lucifer/Satan power to do everything except create life. I'd have to agree with you there, Marijuana is a living, breathing organism ... hence, therefore, it must come from God. Toke that shit and send your pain to the back of your mind. I use it for migraines and it works wonders. [Edited 7/28/09 8:47am] may u live 2 see the dawn | |
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SUPRMAN said: morningsong said: Would be best if you knew someone in your own fellowship who had medical knowledge you could talk this over with. As legal as Vicadin is, a Christian isn't immuned from abusing it despite the fact that it is "okay" in possibly most Chritian communities to use. Why medical knowledge? That isn't the dilemma. He has what works, so how do you convince you're fellow churchgoers? Medical knowledge or education, because their views are not clouded by bias traditions and heresay. This person stated that in the past they've used and abused marijuana, having a support system would be helpful. Who said this person had to stand up in front of the entire congregation and tell their business, having at least one trusted person in their corner eliminates the whole "sneaking" feeling. Assuming nobody would understand is not a good way lead your life. They might be surprised to find out about things that other people are going through within their own fellowship. Never again, not I. | |
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dseann said: dannyd5050 said: God made the plant you're smoking so....
I think God gave the devil/Lucifer/Satan power to do everything except create life. I'd have to agree with you there, Marijuana is a living, breathing organism ... hence, therefore, it must come from God. Toke that shit and send your pain to the back of your mind. I use it for migraines and it works wonders.
[Edited 7/28/09 8:47am] I don't have migrains, but I puff to prevent glacoma. I'm puffing now as I type. Pot is natural, it is of nature and created and blessed by God. Puff and pass, Amen. [Edited 7/28/09 15:44pm] "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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totaldiva said: dseann said: I think God gave the devil/Lucifer/Satan power to do everything except create life. I'd have to agree with you there, Marijuana is a living, breathing organism ... hence, therefore, it must come from God. Toke that shit and send your pain to the back of your mind. I use it for migraines and it works wonders.
[Edited 7/28/09 8:47am] I don't have migrains, but I puff to prevent glacoma. I'm puffing now as I type. Pot is natural, it is of nature and created and blessed by God. Puff and pass, Amen. [Edited 7/28/09 15:44pm] Yeah, sure you do.  may u live 2 see the dawn | |
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dseann said: totaldiva said: I don't have migrains, but I puff to prevent glacoma. I'm puffing now as I type. Pot is natural, it is of nature and created and blessed by God. Puff and pass, Amen. [Edited 7/28/09 15:44pm] Yeah, sure you do.  This some good shit."POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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totaldiva said: dseann said: Yeah, sure you do. This some good shit.may u live 2 see the dawn | |
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Tremolina said: JayJai said:
I just don't agree with smoking it though. a marihuana cup of tea or a cookie is an option too 
All plants have their purpose...some ppl jus don't kno how to use them effectively. Why deal wit the smoke-in-the-lungs effect?  People Call me Rude
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Whether I paid for a dime bag of hydro, or a pack of Virginia Slims, I am sick and tired of people trying to tell me (and other smokers) what is right and wrong. I am aware of all the side effects and choose to smoke.
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JayJai said: Tremolina said: a marihuana cup of tea or a cookie is an option too
All plants have their purpose...some ppl jus don't kno how to use them effectively. Why deal wit the smoke-in-the-lungs effect? You can get high with pot baked into brownies, or drinking pot tea. It does not need to be inhaled to get a buzz. If you have an issue with "smoke in lungs", the solution is for you to never spark up, but don't penalize someone because they enjoy a good bag of herb. [Edited 7/28/09 21:54pm] [Edited 7/28/09 21:54pm] "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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totaldiva said: JayJai said:
All plants have their purpose...some ppl jus don't kno how to use them effectively. Why deal wit the smoke-in-the-lungs effect? You can get high with pot baked into brownies, or drinking pot tea. It does not need to be inhaled to get a buzz. If you have an issue with "smoke in lungs", the solution is for you to never spark up, but don't penalize someone because they enjoy a good bag of herb. [Edited 7/28/09 21:54pm] [Edited 7/28/09 21:54pm] Hot Butter Bhang NSF minors = http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=12266  REGISTER FOR SECRET SANTA 2009!! Go here NOW ---> http://prince.org/msg/100/323760
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dustysgirl said: I can't find any good debates on the net about this topic. I'm a saved, born-again Christian, and I support medical marijuana. It recently became legal in Michigan (medicinal, anyway) and I qualify to become a registered user. I suffer from chronic muscle spasms and I'm being treated for cancer.
I used to be a weed-head, big time in my late teens. I got married, started going to church and just quit. No big deal. I've been suffering with excruciating back muscle spasms three and four times a year for eight years now. Nothing really helps but time. During my most recent episode, the dr. prescribed a different muscle relaxer. Didn't help. So far I've tried flexeril, soma, baclofen, valium and vicodin for the pain. The pain pills make me sick, and the muscle relaxers only zombify me, but don't stop the spasms. I'm pretty sure I suffer from tension myositis syndrome (spasms brought on by tension and stress). Anyway....The other day, I tried smoking a joint and had almost instant relief! I wasn't knocked out, just chilled-out, mellow and in a good mood. I hardly thought about my back at all. The spasms didn't come back for several hours. My dilemma is the religious thing...I don't feel bad about using. I'd only be using for pain anyway and what's the difference? Tons of pills or weed? I just know that my church folks would really think badly about me if they knew. Not that I'm telling them! I wondered what other Christian's views were on this? I agree with you 100% on the legalization of marijuana for medical purposes! It should have been done along time ago! You or anyone else can't tell me that God is not okay with marijuana if it helps so many people and so many symptoms of illnesses. God made marijuana, it's from the earth, it's a weed so it is not hard to grow, and it relieves stress, anxiety, pain, anger problems, sleep disorders, bi-polar episodes, anorexia, bulemia, etc...I could go on forever! It is ridiculous that researchers and medical professionals who study this drug & know the benefits of it and government can not agree with them. My personal and deepest opinion is use it if it helps u, just don't get caught with it! The demons of law enforcement and employers will make u pay for it in more ways than one. Just be careful, use it at home & don't drive on it until government can get their heads out of their *sses on this issue!  | |
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Anxiety said: if more christians smoked pot, there'd be less problems in the world today.
i'm only kind of kidding. Your first statement is so true and your only kidding yourself...lol! | |
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lazycrockett said: Natural shit is better than most if not all pharmy crap to begin with.
Light up!! I'm with ya lazy! However, it does make u alittle lazy, huh lazy? lol! | |
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SUPRMAN said: morningsong said: Would be best if you knew someone in your own fellowship who had medical knowledge you could talk this over with. As legal as Vicadin is, a Christian isn't immuned from abusing it despite the fact that it is "okay" in possibly most Chritian communities to use. Why medical knowledge? That isn't the dilemma. He has what works, so how do you convince you're fellow churchgoers? God told Adam & Eve to not eat the forbidden fruit! Does it say anywhere in the Bible to not eat this weed or don't smoke it! It won't kill ya either, it's not poison like crystal meth! It's all natural! Am I wrong? 
[Edited 7/29/09 2:07am] Crystal meth is "the devil's drug!" Crack cocaine is "the devil's drug!" But Marijuana is heaven sent! It is healther to eat it so I agree on that, but if your a smoker, hey, I don't think you'll be going to hell, so why worry if your a true Christian! It's not a sin nor is it in the ten commandments anywhere! Wish I had some right now so I could get some sleep!
[Edited 7/29/09 2:16am] One last opinion, then I'll shut up! Sparks r flying with me on this subject! Just in case there are any government officials reading this, the government & healthcare professionals have a tremendous opportunity here to make more money than they are now with marijuana by controlling the use & distribution of it! Wake up and smell the money, idiots! [Edited 7/29/09 2:32am] | |
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totaldiva said: JayJai said:
All plants have their purpose...some ppl jus don't kno how to use them effectively. Why deal wit the smoke-in-the-lungs effect? You can get high with pot baked into brownies, or drinking pot tea. It does not need to be inhaled to get a buzz. If you have an issue with "smoke in lungs", the solution is for you to never spark up, but don't penalize someone because they enjoy a good bag of herb. [Edited 7/28/09 21:54pm] [Edited 7/28/09 21:54pm] I read that you wouldn't get high from a cup of marijuana tea because THC is not water soluble. It has to be cooked with some sort of fat, like butter. So therefore I can see brownies working. I've also heard of people making marijuana butter. | |
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dustysgirl said: totaldiva said: You can get high with pot baked into brownies, or drinking pot tea. It does not need to be inhaled to get a buzz. If you have an issue with "smoke in lungs", the solution is for you to never spark up, but don't penalize someone because they enjoy a good bag of herb. [Edited 7/28/09 21:54pm] [Edited 7/28/09 21:54pm] I read that you wouldn't get high from a cup of marijuana tea because THC is not water soluble. It has to be cooked with some sort of fat, like butter. So therefore I can see brownies working. I've also heard of people making marijuana butter. You're right, THC isn't water soluble. That's the reason it stays in your system for at least four weeks and that's just with a piss test. It's takes a longer time to disappear if you do a blood test. Brownies, cakes, pastries and stuff work wonders though. I've seen some friends do some real Three Stooges shit after eating ganja pastries. For me though, it's roll it up, light it up, smoke it up, inhale and exhale.  may u live 2 see the dawn | |
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