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Ethiopia tells the Pope they're going to reveal the Ark of the Covenant Originally Posted by Partial_Mathers
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I've heard about this and how they protect it to no end. I'm shocked they decided to reveal it. It will be interesting to see what is actually revealed. Education, the greatest weapon
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Now that would be something. Perhaps I missed the explanation in the article, but I wonder why after all these years of keeping it under wraps they're revealing it. Never again, not I. | |
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if they really have it and are going to uncover it, lay it on us! | |
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morningsong said: Now that would be something. Perhaps I missed the explanation in the article, but I wonder why after all these years of keeping it under wraps they're revealing it.
I wonder too. I saw a documentary on the history channel, some time ago, and saw how they protect it 24/7 to make sure no one steals it. Education, the greatest weapon
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Let's take a look..... The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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Ark will not be shown
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By Tsegaye Tadesse ADDIS ABABA (Reuters) - The head of Ethiopia's Orthodox Church on Tuesday denied reports that he is about to unveil to the world the Ark of the Covenant that Moses is said to have stored the Ten Commandments tablets in. Patriarch Abune Paulos said Italian media had incorrectly reported that he would place the Ark in a museum in the country's north. Legend has it that the box-shaped Ark has been hidden from sight in Ethiopia since 642 BC. "I am deeply disappointed that the Italian media misquoted me and disseminated false information about me unveiling the Ark of the Covenant to the world," he said at a news conference. "It is a fabrication, disinformation." Some Ethiopians believe that Prince Menelik I -- who is said to be the result of a union between Israel's King Solomon and the Ethiopia Queen of Sheba -- took the Ark from Jerusalem to Ethiopia while he was in power around 950 BC. "I would like to confirm once again that the Ark of the Covenant and the sacred tablets containing the Ten Commandments that God delivered to Moses are in Ethiopia," Abune added. Replicas of the Ark are in more than 50,000 Orthodox churches in the Horn of Africa country, the church says. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church says it keeps the Ark in a holy shrine in the north of the country. Only a small number of priests can even go near the room where it is said to be kept. © Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved [Edited 7/8/09 10:32am] I was wondering how long the retraction was going 2 take. The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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oh for goodness sake! | |
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Man. I was getting happy and then Lamm had to go and burst my bubble. **************************************************
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the only error in the story is that Israel was still in existence under a Monarchy in 950BCE. Aside from a small problem of the Temple still in around and by law the Ark had to stay there it's a plausible story. t is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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last year or the year before the History Channel did a documentary on the Lemba people of South Africa and that they may actually have what is left of it.
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ehuffnsd said: last year or the year before the History Channel did a documentary on the Lemba people of South Africa and that they may actually have what is left of it.
The Lost Ark of the Covenant it's a great little film I saw that show. That thing looked more like a drum to me. I know they say the Lemba are "authentic" Hewbrews and Ethiopians are not due to the Lemba having the Conahim(SP?) gene, but who says the Conahim(SP?) gene is really Hebrew just cause some Jews now living in Israel have it? **************************************************
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illimack said: ehuffnsd said: last year or the year before the History Channel did a documentary on the Lemba people of South Africa and that they may actually have what is left of it.
The Lost Ark of the Covenant it's a great little film I saw that show. That thing looked more like a drum to me. I know they say the Lemba are "authentic" Hewbrews and Ethiopians are not due to the Lemba having the Conahim(SP?) gene, but who says the Conahim(SP?) gene is really Hebrew just cause some Jews now living in Israel have it? all Jews whether there ancestors moved to Europe or stayed in the Holy Land have them. t is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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ehuffnsd said: illimack said: I saw that show. That thing looked more like a drum to me. I know they say the Lemba are "authentic" Hewbrews and Ethiopians are not due to the Lemba having the Conahim(SP?) gene, but who says the Conahim(SP?) gene is really Hebrew just cause some Jews now living in Israel have it? all Jews whether there ancestors moved to Europe or stayed in the Holy Land have them. But the Ethiopians, who have longed claimed to be Hebrew, do not. And due to this fact, some say that they are not "real Jews," even though they have an abundance of religious practices identical to those in the old testament and they are the only people that have a grand yearly celebration of the Ark of the covenant. You should check out The Sign and the Seal if you like books on ancient history. It was really good. **************************************************
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Didn't Indiana Jones take care of this some 20+ years ago? | |
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illimack said: ehuffnsd said: all Jews whether there ancestors moved to Europe or stayed in the Holy Land have them. But the Ethiopians, who have longed claimed to be Hebrew, do not. And due to this fact, some say that they are not "real Jews," even though they have an abundance of religious practices identical to those in the old testament and they are the only people that have a grand yearly celebration of the Ark of the covenant. You should check out The Sign and the Seal if you like books on ancient history. It was really good. they could have picked up Jewish practices but not a Jewish bloodline t is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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illimack said: Man. I was getting happy and then Lamm had to go and burst my bubble.
If any of you want to read a good book regarding the Ark, check out The Sign and the Seal. Sorry, illi. ________________
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By Tsegaye Tadesse ADDIS ABABA (Reuters) - The head of Ethiopia's Orthodox Church on Tuesday denied reports that he is about to unveil to the world the Ark of the Covenant that Moses is said to have stored the Ten Commandments tablets in. Patriarch Abune Paulos said Italian media had incorrectly reported that he would place the Ark in a museum in the country's north. Legend has it that the box-shaped Ark has been hidden from sight in Ethiopia since 642 BC. "I am deeply disappointed that the Italian media misquoted me and disseminated false information about me unveiling the Ark of the Covenant to the world," he said at a news conference. "It is a fabrication, disinformation." Some Ethiopians believe that Prince Menelik I -- who is said to be the result of a union between Israel's King Solomon and the Ethiopia Queen of Sheba -- took the Ark from Jerusalem to Ethiopia while he was in power around 950 BC. "I would like to confirm once again that the Ark of the Covenant and the sacred tablets containing the Ten Commandments that God delivered to Moses are in Ethiopia," Abune added. Replicas of the Ark are in more than 50,000 Orthodox churches in the Horn of Africa country, the church says. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church says it keeps the Ark in a holy shrine in the north of the country. Only a small number of priests can even go near the room where it is said to be kept. © Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved Oh well. It would have been nice to finally see what it was suppose to look like. Never again, not I. | |
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morningsong said: Lammastide said: Ark will not be shown
By Tsegaye Tadesse ADDIS ABABA (Reuters) - The head of Ethiopia's Orthodox Church on Tuesday denied reports that he is about to unveil to the world the Ark of the Covenant that Moses is said to have stored the Ten Commandments tablets in. Patriarch Abune Paulos said Italian media had incorrectly reported that he would place the Ark in a museum in the country's north. Legend has it that the box-shaped Ark has been hidden from sight in Ethiopia since 642 BC. "I am deeply disappointed that the Italian media misquoted me and disseminated false information about me unveiling the Ark of the Covenant to the world," he said at a news conference. "It is a fabrication, disinformation." Some Ethiopians believe that Prince Menelik I -- who is said to be the result of a union between Israel's King Solomon and the Ethiopia Queen of Sheba -- took the Ark from Jerusalem to Ethiopia while he was in power around 950 BC. "I would like to confirm once again that the Ark of the Covenant and the sacred tablets containing the Ten Commandments that God delivered to Moses are in Ethiopia," Abune added. Replicas of the Ark are in more than 50,000 Orthodox churches in the Horn of Africa country, the church says. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church says it keeps the Ark in a holy shrine in the north of the country. Only a small number of priests can even go near the room where it is said to be kept. © Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved Oh well. It would have been nice to finally see what it was suppose to look like. Not only that -- it's discovery would have been literally biblical in proportion. In both Jewish and Islamic tradition, the recovery of the ark coincides with the coming of the eschaton. ________________
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Lammastide said: morningsong said: Oh well. It would have been nice to finally see what it was suppose to look like. Not only that -- it's discovery would have been literally biblical in proportion. In both Jewish and Islamic tradition, the recovery of the ark coincides with the coming of the eschaton. that would mean Jesus was close to because me comes back in Islam as well. t is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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morningsong said: Lammastide said: Ark will not be shown
By Tsegaye Tadesse ADDIS ABABA (Reuters) - The head of Ethiopia's Orthodox Church on Tuesday denied reports that he is about to unveil to the world the Ark of the Covenant that Moses is said to have stored the Ten Commandments tablets in. Patriarch Abune Paulos said Italian media had incorrectly reported that he would place the Ark in a museum in the country's north. Legend has it that the box-shaped Ark has been hidden from sight in Ethiopia since 642 BC. "I am deeply disappointed that the Italian media misquoted me and disseminated false information about me unveiling the Ark of the Covenant to the world," he said at a news conference. "It is a fabrication, disinformation." Some Ethiopians believe that Prince Menelik I -- who is said to be the result of a union between Israel's King Solomon and the Ethiopia Queen of Sheba -- took the Ark from Jerusalem to Ethiopia while he was in power around 950 BC. "I would like to confirm once again that the Ark of the Covenant and the sacred tablets containing the Ten Commandments that God delivered to Moses are in Ethiopia," Abune added. Replicas of the Ark are in more than 50,000 Orthodox churches in the Horn of Africa country, the church says. The Ethiopian Orthodox Church says it keeps the Ark in a holy shrine in the north of the country. Only a small number of priests can even go near the room where it is said to be kept. © Thomson Reuters 2009 All rights reserved Oh well. It would have been nice to finally see what it was suppose to look like. I knew it was too good to be true. When I saw a documentary on it, I got the impression they would never reveal it and I don't understand why. Wouldn't they want folks to see something that sacred? Guess not. [Edited 7/8/09 17:51pm] Education, the greatest weapon
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ehuffnsd said: Lammastide said: Not only that -- it's discovery would have been literally biblical in proportion. In both Jewish and Islamic tradition, the recovery of the ark coincides with the coming of the eschaton. that would mean Jesus was close to because me comes back in Islam as well. Never again, not I. | |
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ehuffnsd said: Lammastide said: Not only that -- it's discovery would have been literally biblical in proportion. In both Jewish and Islamic tradition, the recovery of the ark coincides with the coming of the eschaton. that would mean Jesus was close to because me comes back in Islam as well. Good point. ________________
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morningsong said: ehuffnsd said: that would mean Jesus was close to because me comes back in Islam as well. ________________
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ehuffnsd said: illimack said: I saw that show. That thing looked more like a drum to me. I know they say the Lemba are "authentic" Hewbrews and Ethiopians are not due to the Lemba having the Conahim(SP?) gene, but who says the Conahim(SP?) gene is really Hebrew just cause some Jews now living in Israel have it? all Jews whether there ancestors moved to Europe or stayed in the Holy Land have them. Technically a person with First Temple-era Jewish ancestry could exist while not bearing the Cohanim gene. That DNA marker would only indicate a person specifically descendant of the tribe of Cohen, a subset of the Tribe of Levi. Because Levites were not allocated a dedicated territory like the other tribes at the founding of ancient Israel, they were dispersed throughout the land and thoroughly absorbed. Levite (and Cohanim) genetic presence permeated Jewry -- so much so that now it has become a sort of test for the antiquity of one's Jewish ancestry -- but it is not 100-percent prevalent. (And, interestingly, the science shows it is possible, on the other hand, to have the gene and not be descendant of the Tribe of Cohen.) But lost in all this is the important question: What makes one Jewish -- blood or fidelity to tradition(s)? Because the gene is patrilineal, it serves no purpose in naming someone Jewish from a religious standpoint, something done based on one's maternal lineage. Moreover, I have ethnic Jewish friends who wouldn't know a mitzvah if they tripped over one The question has no universally satisfying answer, and more than a few critics have observed that it unfortunately seems to be approached in varied ways based on ethnic/racial double standards. ________________
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But I agree Menelik I was likely not the guy who got away with the Ark. If we trust the historical accuracy of the biblical account, the Ark was last mentioned as present in the Temple during Josiah's reign (2 Chronicles 35:3)... some 300 years after Menelik I. ________________
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Lammastide said: ehuffnsd said: all Jews whether there ancestors moved to Europe or stayed in the Holy Land have them. Technically a person with First Temple-era Jewish ancestry could exist while not bearing the Cohanim gene. That DNA marker would only indicate a person specifically descendant of the tribe of Cohen, a subset of the Tribe of Levi. Because Levites were not allocated a dedicated territory like the other tribes at the founding of ancient Israel, they were dispersed throughout the land and thoroughly absorbed. Levite (and Cohanim) genetic presence permeated Jewry -- so much so that now it has become a sort of test for the antiquity of one's Jewish ancestry -- but it is not 100-percent prevalent. (And, interestingly, the science shows it is possible, on the other hand, to have the gene and not be descendant of the Tribe of Cohen.) But lost in all this is the important question: What makes one Jewish -- blood or fidelity to tradition(s)? Because the gene is patrilineal, it serves no purpose in naming someone Jewish from a religious standpoint, something done based on one's maternal lineage. Moreover, I have ethnic Jewish friends who wouldn't know a mitzvah if they tripped over one The question has no universally satisfying answer, and more than a few critics have observed that it unfortunately seems to be approached in varied ways based on ethnic/racial double standards. Cohain line family plays certain roles in Judism so in order for there to be a true Jewish tradition there has to someone of that line in that population. and yes converts are normally more orthodox believers. My half brother and his wife both converts to Catholicism are much more devout than my mother or my brother and i were t is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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Lammastide said: morningsong said: Okay, thought so, but it's the "as we know it" part that's tricky. If it passed those dating test, there would be a lot of changes maybe not the kind we would generally think of, but there would be a major shift. Never again, not I. | |
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