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Printable version (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)DesireeNevermind said: OldFriends4Sale said: I applaude your statment, and 2nd it 3rdt it.  i refute it, which cancels out Desree Nevermind's 3rd it, bringing it back to level 2 | |
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TitWankSymphonyInGMINOR said: DesireeNevermind said: 3rdt it. i refute it, which cancels out Desree Nevermind's 3rd it, bringing it back to level 2 I see your refute and raise you two "2nd its" which brings it up to level 4. 
Or 6   
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DesireeNevermind said: I will never understand the atheist perspective.
No belief in a higher intelligent being? Made up by people, to make sense of chaotic prehistoric world No purpose to life? Why does there have to be a purpose? No reason for life? Why does there have to be a reason? No existence beyond the flesh? No proof im afraid. nice idea An entire spectacular universe of entities, bodies, beings all magically created out of nothing for no reason and by no one? Spectacular Universe, as opposed to a rubbish one? which universe are you comparing this one to? Only 10% of the human brain we use and you don't know why? erm don't get your point?No other explanation or consideration for "miracles" events that can't or have yet to be explained by science? Not yet. science is still pretty young, give it a chance. In 200 years time, we'll have nailed ghosts, clairvoyancy, why socks go missing and the like If not God then what? I can totally understand not subscribing to a particular faith but to think that there is no creator is rather idiotic. But to each his/her own. Yeah  my  | |
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ConsciousContact said: Why have humans invented God?
and... teabagging?
i'm with you ConsciousContact, I want some answers, dammit  | |
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NastradumasKid said: dollwoman said: OldFriens4Sal, you reminded me of the story of Job which some religions talk about more than others as a way to see that hard times are not punishment or even a cruel testing by God.
The reason I bring all this up is because some people bring up crimes, ilnesses and natural disaster's as proof that God does not exist or if he does he is a cruel God or indifferent at best. You remind me of Genesis love.  Great, now i'm thinking of Phil Collins fucking. Thanks a bundle, nastradumaskid | |
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chillichocaholic said: OldFriends4Sale said: That reason is not a good one, to if the devil does or does not exist. People say that out of ignorance If we are going by hebrew scripture, once the devil tempted Eve into eating of the fruit of the tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil, and Adam ate: the sin nature/fall nature entered into mankind, Humans are 'sinners' by nature, it's a part of our nature to do bad things. Even the church has admitted that adam and eve is probably a story much as sampson and delilah, so Im am afraid Im not buying that as proof either  Even what church? a story much as smpson & delilah? Please explain what your talking about? I'm mean if you don't believe then you don't believe, not really trying to convince you But if you want to talk about Hebrew scripture, then let's deal with it from that context, other wise it's like talking to a brick wall(don't mean that disrespectfully) People again can believe and say what they will But no one of u can take away that in the scriptures Jesus said 'They that believe, in my name they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover' from age 12/13 till about age 22 I suffered from migrains, they were getting worse and worse, I still remember it like yesterday:Sunday morning in April 1994 I went to sunday school with the worst migrain I ever had, one of the deacons came to me touched my head amd all he said was "In the name of Jesus" and the migrain left like someone popped a balloon, I couldn't even remember the pain, I walked outside to get some air and came back in. I never had a migrain since Say what you will, I don't care, I don't suffer from migrains anymore Now where I come from
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TitWankSymphonyInGMINOR said: DesireeNevermind said: I will never understand the atheist perspective.
No belief in a higher intelligent being? Made up by people, to make sense of chaotic prehistoric world No purpose to life? Why does there have to be a purpose? No reason for life? Why does there have to be a reason? No existence beyond the flesh? No proof im afraid. nice idea An entire spectacular universe of entities, bodies, beings all magically created out of nothing for no reason and by no one? Spectacular Universe, as opposed to a rubbish one? which universe are you comparing this one to? Only 10% of the human brain we use and you don't know why? erm don't get your point?No other explanation or consideration for "miracles" events that can't or have yet to be explained by science? Not yet. science is still pretty young, give it a chance. In 200 years time, we'll have nailed ghosts, clairvoyancy, why socks go missing and the like If not God then what? I can totally understand not subscribing to a particular faith but to think that there is no creator is rather idiotic. But to each his/her own. Yeah my cynic is not good enough a word for you.  
p.s. science is still pretty young yet you rely on it heavily.  my socks do go missing. the devil takes them for stuffing.[Edited 7/22/09 20:28pm]
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DesireeNevermind said: Lest anyone get it twisted.
RELIGION –noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion. 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions. 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith. 6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice. So basically if you omit the idea of supernatural beings called gods and replace them with little green men from outer space, atheism could also be construed as a religion.  Why do humans believe? Why do humans devote themselves to a set of beliefs? And yes there is no fundamental difference between followers of organised religions and athiests. They both have their set of beliefs which blind them to reality. The enemy is not the other, the enemy is you. | |
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ConsciousContact said: DesireeNevermind said: Lest anyone get it twisted.
RELIGION –noun 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion. 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions. 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith. 6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice. So basically if you omit the idea of supernatural beings called gods and replace them with little green men from outer space, atheism could also be construed as a religion. Why do humans believe? Why do humans devote themselves to a set of beliefs? And yes there is no fundamental difference between followers of organised religions and athiests. They both have their set of beliefs which blind them to reality. We are designed that way 
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Please look in your Bible at psalms83:18...It reads that people may know that you,whose name is Jehovah,You alone are the most high over all the earth.Yes there is a God. ladychel | |
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ladychel61 said: Please look in your Bible at psalms83:18...It reads that people may know that you,whose name is Jehovah,You alone are the most high over all the earth.Yes there is a God.
You may as well have hit random keys on your keyboard for all the sense your post made. When will Christians understand that you dont prove the existance of god by quoting the bible? | |
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kittylove said: NastradumasKid said: I have second thoughts at times but does God have any true existence to anyone?
I believe in higher power so I guess I'm going to hell  . The God that everyone knows and loves doesn't exist in my world, God is neither man or women,
it's apowerful being that has my life all set up, the most people believe frightens me, especially the whole gays are going burn in hell theory. I don't have a religion I just believe in a higher being and that's that.
[Edited 7/1/09 20:54pm] Is there a Devil? I believe there is a God. I am a Christian. so Yes. And there are evil powers....from the Devil. Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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Everyone needs to get right with Jesus & God. Folks it is the start of tribulation (the beginning of the end of the world)! This is in your bibles in Revelations. I have received messages from God regarding this. I know it is true because I have bearly read revelations, was scared to!
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AngelLeah said: Everyone needs to get right with Jesus & God.
How do you know what everyone needs to do? You are assuming a lot. Bit arrogant, isn t it? The enemy is not the other, the enemy is you. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: ConsciousContact said: Why do humans believe? Why do humans devote themselves to a set of beliefs? And yes there is no fundamental difference between followers of organised religions and athiests. They both have their set of beliefs which blind them to reality. We are designed that way I think that there is a design to human beings. I don t necessarily think that we are served by subscribing to an organised belief system. It s not necessary. It is born out of a desire for security and permanancey. The enemy is not the other, the enemy is you. | |
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jamgirl said: kittylove said: Is there a Devil? I believe there is a God. I am a Christian. so Yes. And there are evil powers....from the Devil. Yes...God created the devil and he can take your souls, here on earth as well as when you die. Everyone will be judged by God not the devil. If the devil takes your soul, God punishes you for running with the devil and not obeying his word & commandments or being an unbeliever in God. Jesus came and suffered for your sins so that you could repent(confess), be saved by God and babtized. Even Christians sin but if you have Jesus in your heart and pray to God regularly for yourself & others, God will give you angel wings and instant access to heaven. Believe in God, Believe in Jesus, Believe in the Bible (God's word) & Believe in Angels! | |
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ConsciousContact said: AngelLeah said: Everyone needs to get right with Jesus & God.
How do you know what everyone needs to do? You are assuming a lot. Bit arrogant, isn t it? Not at all arrogant! I am a new reborn Christian and have received the word of God in hyper mode (within a month)! I have the holy spirit and God speaks to me in my dreams & in my head. Don't you believe in God? Don't you believe that God loves you enough to warn you of the end of the world so that you have a chance to get right with him before it happens? | |
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Never again, not I. | |
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Oh Good Grief people have been announcing that "Jesus is coming" since he first left PRINCE IS WATCHING U  " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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chillichocaholic said: Oh Good Grief people have been announcing that "Jesus is coming" since he first left
 And there are changes in the weather etc yes, but there were changes when the Ice age happened, changes when the dinosaurs becamee extinct. Do people really think that just because the Earth is now extreemly populated by human beings that every so many million or thousand years the Earth is not going to go thorugh a cycle of change? Of course it is
Secondly just because some people do not follow the bible to the letter dosent make tham bad or terrible people  If u live ure life as a good hearted person who treats others well and u do whats right I hardly think God is going to throw u to the lions or what have u above someone who may be a christian and a reader of the bible because even Christians have bad thoughts or actions that they hide from everyone
Thridly, the bible was written 70 or less years after all the events in it supposedly happened and much like a chinese whisper stories that are passed down hand to mouth can get changed and added to somewhat until there are times when the written story is nothing at all like the actaul event...and please explain to me how Peter or anyone knew what prayer Jesus said to God when he went off alone in the forest right before he was arrested, considering Peter and the other apostles were sleeping at the time and even the soliders had not appeared. As for the story about the Queen of Sheba, History says there never was a A Queen of Sheba
[Edited 7/25/09 0:39am] two spell edits and I give up...just guess the word
[Edited 7/25/09 0:40am] Do u pray to God? Do u ask him 2 forgive u of ur sins? Yes, I do believe there are good people on this earth that r not christians. However,those are the people who will be judged by God when Jesus comes to take the true believers. All others will be left in judgement to suffer the distruction of this earth. | |
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AngelLeah said: chillichocaholic said: Oh Good Grief people have been announcing that "Jesus is coming" since he first left
And there are changes in the weather etc yes, but there were changes when the Ice age happened, changes when the dinosaurs becamee extinct. Do people really think that just because the Earth is now extreemly populated by human beings that every so many million or thousand years the Earth is not going to go thorugh a cycle of change? Of course it is
Secondly just because some people do not follow the bible to the letter dosent make tham bad or terrible people If u live ure life as a good hearted person who treats others well and u do whats right I hardly think God is going to throw u to the lions or what have u above someone who may be a christian and a reader of the bible because even Christians have bad thoughts or actions that they hide from everyone
Thridly, the bible was written 70 or less years after all the events in it supposedly happened and much like a chinese whisper stories that are passed down hand to mouth can get changed and added to somewhat until there are times when the written story is nothing at all like the actaul event...and please explain to me how Peter or anyone knew what prayer Jesus said to God when he went off alone in the forest right before he was arrested, considering Peter and the other apostles were sleeping at the time and even the soliders had not appeared. As for the story about the Queen of Sheba, History says there never was a A Queen of Sheba
[Edited 7/25/09 0:39am] two spell edits and I give up...just guess the word
[Edited 7/25/09 0:40am] Do u pray to God? Do u ask him 2 forgive u of ur sins? Yes, I do believe there are good people on this earth that r not christians. However,those are the people who will be judged by God when Jesus comes to take the true believers. All others will be left in judgement to suffer the distruction of this earth. Right, so in the meantime u feel its okay for u to judge others right?I don't see what difference it makes to u whether I pray to God or not because really it's no ones business but mine PRINCE IS WATCHING U " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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chillichocaholic said: AngelLeah said: Do u pray to God? Do u ask him 2 forgive u of ur sins? Yes, I do believe there are good people on this earth that r not christians. However,those are the people who will be judged by God when Jesus comes to take the true believers. All others will be left in judgement to suffer the distruction of this earth. Right, so in the meantime u feel its okay for u to judge others right?I don't see what difference it makes to u whether I pray to God or not because really it's no ones business but mine I'm really not judging you, just advising u, that's all. Only God can judge, however, he does speak thru me, I have the holy spirit. Jesus is with me, too. I am one of God's messangers, an Earth Angel, a spiritual warfare angel carrying the sword of the word of God. I am battling the devil & demons that are in people, and that includes u at the moment. God loves u though, he loves all his children he gave life to and wants them to believe in him & his word. Once his children can do that and live right, they will have access to heaven when they die and won't have to face judgement. Are u afraid of God or the devil? I am afraid of the devil, so I fight him off all the time and win everytime! God always wins, he is the highest power! If u pray to him he will guide u, help u and bless u. May God bless u Chilli | |
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AngelLeah said: chillichocaholic said: Right, so in the meantime u feel its okay for u to judge others right?I don't see what difference it makes to u whether I pray to God or not because really it's no ones business but mine I'm really not judging you, just advising u, that's all. Only God can judge, however, he does speak thru me, I have the holy spirit. Jesus is with me, too. I am one of God's messangers, an Earth Angel, a spiritual warfare angel carrying the sword of the word of God. I am battling the devil & demons that are in people, and that includes u at the moment. God loves u though, he loves all his children he gave life to and wants them to believe in him & his word. Once his children can do that and live right, they will have access to heaven when they die and won't have to face judgement. Are u afraid of God or the devil? I am afraid of the devil, so I fight him off all the time and win everytime! God always wins, he is the highest power! If u pray to him he will guide u, help u and bless u. May God bless u Chilli Then u are battling for no reason because I have no such thing in me. I am a spiritual person who believes in God. WHy should we be afraid of God when God is pure love? As for the Devil, that is not something I believe in He is a convenient excuse for people to balme on the evil things they do. I am blessed in many ways but clearly u think otherwise
We all have different percepitons of "the truth" mine is just a bit different to ures...but thats okay. U see what u want to and if that is what works for u and makes u happy...more power to ya  PRINCE IS WATCHING U " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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chillichocaholic said: AngelLeah said: I'm really not judging you, just advising u, that's all. Only God can judge, however, he does speak thru me, I have the holy spirit. Jesus is with me, too. I am one of God's messangers, an Earth Angel, a spiritual warfare angel carrying the sword of the word of God. I am battling the devil & demons that are in people, and that includes u at the moment. God loves u though, he loves all his children he gave life to and wants them to believe in him & his word. Once his children can do that and live right, they will have access to heaven when they die and won't have to face judgement. Are u afraid of God or the devil? I am afraid of the devil, so I fight him off all the time and win everytime! God always wins, he is the highest power! If u pray to him he will guide u, help u and bless u. May God bless u Chilli Then u are battling for no reason because I have no such thing in me. I am a spiritual person who believes in God. WHy should we be afraid of God when God is pure love? As for the Devil, that is not something I believe in He is a convenient excuse for people to balme on the evil things they do. I am blessed in many ways but clearly u think otherwise
We all have different percepitons of "the truth" mine is just a bit different to ures...but thats okay. U see what u want to and if that is what works for u and makes u happy...more power to ya Chilli, I'm only battling the way u believe. Yes, u r so right when u say God is pure love. However, there is a devil & demons, because there is good & evil in everyone. those demons make u sin and attack ur emotions (fear, depression, shame, guilt, greed, arrogance, selfishness, etc...), to the point the devil tries to control u and make u stray away from God. | |
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AngelLeah said: chillichocaholic said: Then u are battling for no reason because I have no such thing in me. I am a spiritual person who believes in God. WHy should we be afraid of God when God is pure love? As for the Devil, that is not something I believe in He is a convenient excuse for people to balme on the evil things they do. I am blessed in many ways but clearly u think otherwise
We all have different percepitons of "the truth" mine is just a bit different to ures...but thats okay. U see what u want to and if that is what works for u and makes u happy...more power to ya Chilli, I'm only battling the way u believe. Yes, u r so right when u say God is pure love. However, there is a devil & demons, because there is good & evil in everyone. those demons make u sin and attack ur emotions (fear, depression, shame, guilt, greed, arrogance, selfishness, etc...), to the point the devil tries to control u and make u stray away from God. Chilli, if u believe in God like u say u do, then why don't u pray to him and have him cast on any demons u may have. I promise u will feel so much better if u truly believe in God. | |
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AngelLeah said: AngelLeah said: Chilli, I'm only battling the way u believe. Yes, u r so right when u say God is pure love. However, there is a devil & demons, because there is good & evil in everyone. those demons make u sin and attack ur emotions (fear, depression, shame, guilt, greed, arrogance, selfishness, etc...), to the point the devil tries to control u and make u stray away from God. Chilli, if u believe in God like u say u do, then why don't u pray to him and have him cast on any demons u may have. I promise u will feel so much better if u truly believe in God. Would u like for me to pray for u? I'll do it now! | |
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AngelLeah said: AngelLeah said: Chilli, if u believe in God like u say u do, then why don't u pray to him and have him cast on any demons u may have. I promise u will feel so much better if u truly believe in God. Would u like for me to pray for u? I'll do it now! Do u fell better now? I also, prayed for God to give u repentance of ur sins. God is beautiful & wonderful, he will truly bless u now if u live by his word (the Bible). Jesus loved everyone so much that he suffered great pain for our sins and allowed us to be forgiven for them by praying to his father, God almighty. Pray and God will help u & guide u. | |
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AngelLeah said: AngelLeah said: Would u like for me to pray for u? I'll do it now! Do u fell better now? I also, prayed for God to give u repentance of ur sins. God is beautiful & wonderful, he will truly bless u now if u live by his word (the Bible). Jesus loved everyone so much that he suffered great pain for our sins and allowed us to be forgiven for them by praying to his father, God almighty. Pray and God will help u & guide u. Chilli, u don't have to thank me, look up and thank God & Jesus, tell them u are grateful and love them with all ur heart & soul. | |
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AngelLeah said: AngelLeah said: Do u fell better now? I also, prayed for God to give u repentance of ur sins. God is beautiful & wonderful, he will truly bless u now if u live by his word (the Bible). Jesus loved everyone so much that he suffered great pain for our sins and allowed us to be forgiven for them by praying to his father, God almighty. Pray and God will help u & guide u. Chilli, u don't have to thank me, look up and thank God & Jesus, tell them u are grateful and love them with all ur heart & soul. Everyone, It's the God in me! Just like the song! Love it! | |
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AngelLeah said: AngelLeah said: Chilli, u don't have to thank me, look up and thank God & Jesus, tell them u are grateful and love them with all ur heart & soul. Everyone, It's the God in me! Just like the song! Love it! Prince, I am #1 tribulation angel right now! U R #2! So smile I love you | |
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