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ConsciousContact said: AngelLeah said: I believe with all my heart & soul that there is a god. Recently I was saved & babtised after spending a week in the hospital with severe depression. After I was saved I had spiritual dreams (beautiful dreams). Then I felt just like an angel, a Earth Angel. Then God started testing my faith in his word. I started reading in hyper mode all about the holy spirit and the bible. So far I have passed every test God threw at me. Now I feel blessed beyond my dreams & I feel I earned 5 star beautiful wings. I also feel if I live by Gods word I will truly go to heaven and still have my pretty wings or better yet, be God's child there. I know now what Prince means about the afterworld and everlasting life. I have his symbol tattooed on my ankle. It's my only tattoo. I would love to talk with Prince about this experience I've had. Believe in Angels & Believe in God. Love God with all your heart & soul because he will bless you!
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ConsciousContact said: DesireeNevermind said: I know God is alive and real else why do I get mad at him from time to time?
We will all know the truth when we die. Some of us know the truth as we live. God is purpose, without purpose there is no life and there is no reason.  Life exists whether there is a purpose or not. Since our lives are empty we want to find a purpose to life and strive for it. When we say that the purpose of life is to find God, surely that desire to find God is an escape from life. We do not understand ourselves or life so we look to God to open the door to what is beyond because most of us are incapable of facing ourselves as we are. Not sure if I'm reading your words right, as you stated "Since our lives are empty we want to find a purpose to life and strive for it" Then you say" "...surely the desire to find God is an escape from life".. I can understand everyone questioning what is their "purpose in this life" as in asking themselves "What did God put me here to do?" or "Why do I exist in this thing called life?" but somehow, I am a bit confused about the other part of your statement when you say "to find God is an escape from life". How is that so? That is like saying those who exist and are drawn to God, want to escape the existence and realities of the life they are currently living, and instead look for some "false or imaginery source" to fulfill a void or escape the reality of their existence. Your statement sounds more like suicide or an "escapism" or that you are saying those who choose to find "God" want out of this life. Then some say or have said, as I probably believe as well, that the reason for us to be in this "life" is like a test, a path to finding God, by our "experiences" or "trials and tribulations" before we move on to an extension of a "higher self" or "God", and until we experience enough of those "trials and tribulations" that lead us on that path, then we will keep living in this thing called life, until our "souls" reach that higher level of self (God?) that we (in general) are supposedly searching for. Just my two cents. 
(I think I just confused myself) [Edited 7/15/09 10:04am] Education, the greatest weapon
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2elijah said: ConsciousContact said: Life exists whether there is a purpose or not. Since our lives are empty we want to find a purpose to life and strive for it. When we say that the purpose of life is to find God, surely that desire to find God is an escape from life. We do not understand ourselves or life so we look to God to open the door to what is beyond because most of us are incapable of facing ourselves as we are. Not sure if I'm reading your words right, as you stated "Since our lives are empty we want to find a purpose to life and strive for it" Then you say" "...surely the desire to find God is an escape from life".. I can understand everyone questioning what is their "purpose in this life" as in asking themselves "What did God put me here to do?" or "Why do I exist in this thing called life?" but somehow, I am a bit confused about the other part of your statement when you say "to find God is an escape from life". How is that so? That is like saying those who exist and are drawn to God, want to escape the existence and realities of the life they are currently living, and instead look for some "false or imaginery source" to fulfill a void or escape the reality of their existence. Your statement sounds more like suicide or an "escapism" or that you are saying those who choose to find "God" want out of this life. Then some say or have said, as I probably believe as well, that the reason for us to be in this "life" is like a test, a path to finding God, by our "experiences" or "trials and tribulations" before we move on to an extension of a "higher self" or "God", and until we experience enough of those "trials and tribulations" that lead us on that path, then we will keep living in this thing called life, until our "souls" reach that higher level of self (God?) that we (in general) are supposedly searching for. Just my two cents.
(I think I just confused myself)
[Edited 7/15/09 10:04am] Brilliant!  
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I will never understand the atheist perspective.
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DesireeNevermind said: If not God then what? I can totally understand not subscribing to a particular faith but to think that there is no creator is rather idiotic. But to each his/her own. my  No more “idiotic” than believing fairy tales and ghost stories. |
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CarrieMpls said: DesireeNevermind said: If not God then what? I can totally understand not subscribing to a particular faith but to think that there is no creator is rather idiotic. But to each his/her own. my No more “idiotic” than believing fairy tales and ghost stories. i believe in ghost stories  Poltergeist could really happen.
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2elijah said:[quote] ConsciousContact said: Then some say or have said, as I probably believe as well, that the reason for us to be in this "life" is like a test, a path to finding God, by our "experiences" or "trials and tribulations" before we move on to an extension of a "higher self" or "God", and until we experience enough of those "trials and tribulations" that lead us on that path, then we will keep living in this thing called life, until our "souls" reach that higher level of self (God?) that we (in general) are supposedly searching for. Just my two cents.
Utter nonsense. What about all the still born babies and people who die at a young age? What "Higher level of self" did they reach? What "Experiences" or "Trials and tribulations" did they have? I swear U people make this shit up as U go along. Bring back  | |
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comegetwild said:[quote] 2elijah said: ConsciousContact said: Then some say or have said, as I probably believe as well, that the reason for us to be in this "life" is like a test, a path to finding God, by our "experiences" or "trials and tribulations" before we move on to an extension of a "higher self" or "God", and until we experience enough of those "trials and tribulations" that lead us on that path, then we will keep living in this thing called life, until our "souls" reach that higher level of self (God?) that we (in general) are supposedly searching for. Just my two cents.
Utter nonsense. What about all the still born babies and people who die at a young age? What "Higher level of self" did they reach? What "Experiences" or "Trials and tribulations" did they have? I swear U people make this shit up as U go along. Oh come on. What you expect? A perfect world? Then why does man not cure still births or create his own immortality? 2E is just saying that in his opinion life has a purpose and he believes that purpose may be like a test before moving on to another plane of existence. the majority of the people on this planet believe in a higher being and a life beyond the physical self. i don't see what is so strange about such a belief. Let me ask you: Do you believe that enery never dies? Do you believe that every life form on this planet has a function and purpose?
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comegetwild said: 2elijah said: ConsciousContact said: Then some say or have said, as I probably believe as well, that the reason for us to be in this "life" is like a test, a path to finding God, by our "experiences" or "trials and tribulations" before we move on to an extension of a "higher self" or "God", and until we experience enough of those "trials and tribulations" that lead us on that path, then we will keep living in this thing called life, until our "souls" reach that higher level of self (God?) that we (in general) are supposedly searching for. Just my two cents.
Utter nonsense. What about all the still born babies and people who die at a young age? What "Higher level of self" did they reach? What "Experiences" or "Trials and tribulations" did they have? I swear U people make this shit up as U go along. What about all the still born babies and people who die at a young age? What "Higher level of self" did they reach? What "Experiences" or "Trials and tribulations" did they have? I swear U people make this shit up as U go along.
Think of me as you will, I won't crumble.  But, I believe it is your response that is utter nonsense. You sound like I "touched a nerve" and it made you question your own beliefs.
First let me just say, I am not a religious person, but I do believe God exists. Do you believe humans are the only beings, besides other life on this planet, that exists within the Universe? Have you seen any other form of life to answer that question? How could you if you have never ventured out into what is referred to as "space" in the Universe to know that? None of us know, and for the same reason cannot deny/confirm God exists. But if there are those that choose to believe "God" exists then they have as much right as you, who doesn't believe God exists, to believe "God" does. What makes your opinion that God doesn't exist the end all be all?
Trials & Tribulations are "Life Experiences" ;it is how one lives or have lived during their lifetime. How you treat others;your character (self)-what type of person are/were you? What did you learn in this life? How did you handle yourself in specific situations when dealing with others-were you nice, mean, selfish, hateful, racist, kill anyone, abuse anyone? How did you handle the illness or the death of a loved one? Were/are you compassionate towards others? The list goes on. It's not that difficult to figure out. If one is looking for "God" is one not looking for a higher part of themselves? Like how to be a better human being through their life experiences? Isn't that what the bible teaches, if you are one that reads it? If not, then why do they read it, if they are not trying to be better human beings based on the biblical teachings supposedly referred to as "The Word of God? Or why would priests, reverends, preachers, the pope or other religious-defined teachers, speak to those who believe in God, on how to be "better" human beings, a higher level of themselves? You ask "What about a stillborn child and its trials and tribulations?" In my opinion only, that child never lived outside its mother's womb and took a breath of life outside of it, to experience "life's trials and tribulations" it was his parents "trial and tribulation" that they had to deal with their child being born stillborn, and how they handled that sad situation I can relate to that, as my mother's last child was "stillborn" and it was her experience, as well as my father, who had to deal with that situation together. My personal opinion about this whole thing? If the universe was "created" there had to be something that created it right? You can't create anything without a creator. If some choose to refer to the Creator of life as "God" then so be it, if you choose not to, then that's your individual right, but keep in mind, your opinion of it, is not sealed in gold no more than mine is; they're just opinion(s). [Edited 7/15/09 18:57pm] Education, the greatest weapon
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DesireeNevermind said: comegetwild said: Utter nonsense. What about all the still born babies and people who die at a young age? What "Higher level of self" did they reach? What "Experiences" or "Trials and tribulations" did they have? I swear U people make this shit up as U go along. Oh come on. What you expect? A perfect world? Then why does man not cure still births or create his own immortality? 2E is just saying that in his opinion life has a purpose and he believes that purpose may be like a test before moving on to another plane of existence. the majority of the people on this planet believe in a higher being and a life beyond the physical self. i don't see what is so strange about such a belief. Let me ask you: Do you believe that enery never dies? Do you believe that every life form on this planet has a function and purpose? Desiree, I am a female, but thanks for explaining the point of my last post.  Education, the greatest weapon
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CarrieMpls said: DesireeNevermind said: If not God then what? I can totally understand not subscribing to a particular faith but to think that there is no creator is rather idiotic. But to each his/her own. my No more “idiotic” than believing fairy tales and ghost stories. My dad grew up in South Carolina, their father bought a home that was a plantation prop He moved his mother in a house on the same land behind them One night my dad and his 2 brothers that shared a room were home getting ready for bed and they saw their grandmother come from her house to their window and step in/crawl in thru the window, they said for some reason she scared them and hid under the covers. they felt her sit down and then a few minutes later heard their dad pull up in the car, they ran out, grandmother was no longer there And their father notified them that his mother just passed away at the hospital in town. They tried to tell him she was just at their window in their room Now where I come from
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2elijah said: DesireeNevermind said: Oh come on. What you expect? A perfect world? Then why does man not cure still births or create his own immortality? 2E is just saying that in his opinion life has a purpose and he believes that purpose may be like a test before moving on to another plane of existence. the majority of the people on this planet believe in a higher being and a life beyond the physical self. i don't see what is so strange about such a belief. Let me ask you: Do you believe that enery never dies? Do you believe that every life form on this planet has a function and purpose? Desiree, I am a female, but thanks for explaining the point of my last post.  Ooopsie
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OldFriends4Sale said: CarrieMpls said: No more “idiotic” than believing fairy tales and ghost stories. My dad grew up in South Carolina, their father bought a home that was a plantation prop He moved his mother in a house on the same land behind them One night my dad and his 2 brothers that shared a room were home getting ready for bed and they saw their grandmother come from her house to their window and step in/crawl in thru the window, they said for some reason she scared them and hid under the covers. they felt her sit down and then a few minutes later heard their dad pull up in the car, they ran out, grandmother was no longer there And their father notified them that his mother just passed away at the hospital in town. They tried to tell him she was just at their window in their room ghost! the spiritual realm is real.
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There better be or I'm wasting a lot of time! | |
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If you wnat it to be a God, then there is one, if you don't don't then, there isn't one. Because people who feel very very strongly about this issue, you can't tell them any different. | |
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Purple123 said: If you wnat it to be a God, then there is one, if you don't don't then, there isn't one. Because people who feel very very strongly about this issue, you can't tell them any different.
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ConsciousContact said: Purple123 said: If you wnat it to be a God, then there is one, if you don't don't then, there isn't one. Because people who feel very very strongly about this issue, you can't tell them any different.
The mind creates illusions. Do we want to live in illusion? Most people do. Happily. |
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CarrieMpls said: ConsciousContact said: The mind creates illusions. Do we want to live in illusion? Most people do. Happily. Is that why the world is in the mess it is? Because people are happy to live in illusion? The enemy is not the other, the enemy is you. | |
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CarrieMpls said: ConsciousContact said: The mind creates illusions. Do we want to live in illusion? Most people do. Happily. like a lot of Prince fanettes who think Prince can do no wrong Now where I come from
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An illusion is a distortion of the senses, revealing how the brain normally organizes and interprets sensory stimulation.
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DesireeNevermind said: An illusion is a distortion of the senses, revealing how the brain normally organizes and interprets sensory stimulation.
So basically some people are under the illusion that our world and the universe just popped up out of thin air like a fart without an ass.  
Exactly, I just don't know how something can be created without a "creator?"  [Edited 7/17/09 19:47pm] Education, the greatest weapon
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And this is where the atheists and the theists come together: "Who or what created God if he/she/it exists?" "We don't know." "What predated the Big Bang if there is no God?" "We don't know."
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squiddyren said: And this is where the atheists and the theists come together: "Who or what created God if he/she/it exists?" "We don't know." "What predated the Big Bang if there is no God?" "We don't know."
[Edited 7/17/09 20:48pm] [Edited 7/17/09 20:49pm] [Edited 7/17/09 20:49pm] I think God IS the Big Bang! Yesssss!!!
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angel345 said: If you really want to know if there's a God to all of the naysayers, die first. You'll find out.
 and hurry the fuck up.
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If, and it's a big 'if'...there is some higher being 'it' left us all here to wallow around clueless while 'it' is 1,000,000,000 x a gazillion miles off in the universe tricking some other poor hapless beings into playing 'it's' game of free will. ONLY LOSERS FEAR A MORE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD~~Sananda Maitreya Beware of men that will not go down! (I wish my momma had taught me all this)-BklynBabe | |
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squiddyren said: And this is where the atheists and the theists come together: "Who or what created God if he/she/it exists?" "We don't know." "What predated the Big Bang if there is no God?" "We don't know."
Is being in a state of "I don t know" or uncertainty the most sacred state of being? The enemy is not the other, the enemy is you. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: angel345 said: If you really want to know if there's a God to all of the naysayers, die first. You'll find out.
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ConsciousContact said: squiddyren said: And this is where the atheists and the theists come together: "Who or what created God if he/she/it exists?" "We don't know." "What predated the Big Bang if there is no God?" "We don't know."
Is being in a state of "I don t know" or uncertainty the most sacred state of being?  Are you saying you know? | |
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