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Pope Asks for More Aid to World's Poor. VATICAN CITY – Pope Benedict XVI signed his latest encyclical Monday, a text on ways to make globalization more attentive to meeting the needs of the poor amid the worldwide financial crisis.
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I call the Pope the Holy Father and the thread gets a response because people don't like that is one of his honorific titles. I post a thread where he asks for the poor to receive more attention from the wealthy and not one response? it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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Question: The Vatican is rich. Why don't they help contribute some money to the poor. Edmonton, AB - |
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luv4u said: Question: The Vatican is rich. Why don't they help contribute some money to the poor.
The Catholic Church is the largest charity organization in the world. They run orphanages, hospitals, homeless shelters, food pantries, soup kitchens, and various other programs in every country there are in. The National American Charity is Catholic Charities of America http://www.catholiccharit...x?pid=1174 The vast majority of money collect in each parish stays in the community it is in or goes to the upkeep of the parish. About Catholic Charities USA
Catholic Charities USA is the national office for over 1,700 local Catholic Charities agencies and institutions nationwide. Catholic Charities USA provides strong leadership and support to enhance the work of local agencies in their efforts to reduce poverty, support families, and empower communities. Catholic Charities USA's members provide help and create hope for more than 7.8 million people of all faiths each year. Catholic Charities USA supports local agencies through: * Advocacy Catholic Charities USA vigorously advocates federal policymakers on our poverty reduction agenda and promotes the work of local Catholic Charities to the media and the general public. * Networking CCUSA provides networking opportunities to bring members together to share information, solve problems, and connect with one another. Catholic Charities USA also creates and facilitates a wide range of networks and partnerships with other organizations committed to social justice, including the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. * National Voice Catholic Charities USA’s president represents North America before Caritas International—the international conference of Catholic Charities—maintaining contact with the Catholic Charities movement throughout the world. * Training, Financial Support, and Leadership Catholic Charities USA provides training, technical assistance, financial support, and leadership in developing model programs and services for members. By providing these services, Catholic Charities USA enables local agencies to better devote their own resources to serving their community. * Disaster Response Catholic Charities USA has been commissioned by the U.S. Catholic bishops to represent the Catholic community in times of domestic disaster. Catholic Charities USA provides technical assistance, training, and financial assistance to local agencies. Catholic Charities USA was founded in 1910 on the campus of Catholic University of America in Washington, DC, as the National Conference of Catholic Charities. The National Conference was created to promote the creation of diocesan Catholic Charities bureaus, to encourage professional social work practice, “to bring a sense of solidarity” among those in charitable ministries, and to be the “attorney for the poor." [Edited 6/30/09 23:24pm] it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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1. "The Catholic Church has pots of money."
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http://www.vatican.va/rom...04_en.html
ACTIVITIES
The primary work of the Pontifical Council is to engage in action-oriented studies based on both the papal and episcopal social teaching of the Church. Through them, the Pontifical Council also contributes to the development of this teaching in the following vast fields: JUSTICE. The Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace is concerned with all that touches upon social justice, the world of work, international life, development in general and social development in particular. It also promotes ethical reflection on the evolution of economic and financial systems and addresses problems related to the environment and the responsible use of the earth's resources. PEACE. The Pontifical Council reflects on a broad range of questions related to war, disarmament and the arms trade, international security, and violence in its various and everchanging forms (terrorism, exaggerated nationalism etc.). It also considers the question of political systems and the role of Catholics in the political arena. It is responsible for the promotion of the World Day of Peace. HUMAN RIGHTS. This question has assumed increasing importance in the mission of the Church and consequently in the work of the Pontifical Council. Pope John Paul II consistently stresses that the dignity of the human person is the foundation of the promotion and defense of his or her inalienable rights. The Council deals with the subject from three perspectives: deepening the doctrinal aspect, dealing with questions under discussion in international organizations, showing concern for the victims of the violation of human rights. http://www.vatican.va/rom...le_en.html 2. Competence
The categories of people, who due to their particular circumstances are unable to benefit from the ordinary ministry of parishes or are completely without assistance (cf. Christus Dominus, 18), are namely, migrants, exiles, refugees, displaced people, fishermen and seafarers, air transport personnel, nomads, circus and fairground people, those who go on trips for reasons of piety, study or recreation, land transport workers and other similar categories (see P.B. 150 and 151 and the Circular Letter to the Bishops’ Conferences “The Church and Human Mobility”, 1978, II, F). The Pontifical Council, “an instrument the Pope uses to fulfill his universal mission” (P.B., Introduction, no.7), “brings the pastoral concern of the Church to bear on the special needs of those who have been forced to leave their native land or who do not have one. It also sees to it that these matters are considered with the attention they deserve” (P.B., art.149). It thereby promotes the pastoral care of people involved in human mobility: * ensuring that at the particular Churches such people “receive effective and special spiritual care, even, if necessary, by means of suitable pastoral structures” (P.B., art.150); * through the Apostleship of the Sea, over which it exercises “ultimate direction” (P.B., art.150); * paying attention to matters regarding human mobility (P.B., art.149); * working to ensure that Christian people “become aware of the needs” of people involved in human mobility, especially on the occasion of World Migration Day (P.B., art.150:4); * and ensuring that Christian people “effectively demonstrate a fraternal attitude” (P.B., art.150:4) to people on the move around the world, and * “work to ensure that journeys which Christians undertake for reasons of piety, study or recreation contribute to their moral and religious formation” (P.B., art.151). Moreover, the Council regularly and directly follows the International Catholic Migration Commission by supporting its objectives and initiatives, participating in meetings of its management and promoting active collaboration with this Commission, and between it and other Organisations that have an interest in migrants and refugees. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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Why don't they melt down some of that gold that they have all over the place at vac city? "...I will go to the animal shelter and get you a kitty cat. I will let you fall in love...with that kitty cat. And then on some dark, cold night I will steal away into your home...and punch you in the face!" | |
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lazycrockett said: Why don't they melt down some of that gold that they have all over the place at vac city?
the Church is the steward of vast majority of Western Cultures greatest works of art since the Fall of the Roman Empire. Is it better for those to be in some private collection hidden from view of the world who the art belongs to or in the care of an institution that will ensure that will be taken care of and seen? it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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ehuffnsd said: lazycrockett said: Why don't they melt down some of that gold that they have all over the place at vac city?
the Church is the steward of vast majority of Western Cultures greatest works of art since the Fall of the Roman Empire. Is it better for those to be in some private collection hidden from view of the world who the art belongs to or in the care of an institution that will ensure that will be taken care of and seen? Here's the official website http://www.vaticanstate.v...mepage.htm Edmonton, AB - |
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A starving child looking at a pretty picture doesn't fill his/her stomach. just sayin.
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luv4u said: ehuffnsd said: the Church is the steward of vast majority of Western Cultures greatest works of art since the Fall of the Roman Empire. Is it better for those to be in some private collection hidden from view of the world who the art belongs to or in the care of an institution that will ensure that will be taken care of and seen? Here's the official website http://www.vaticanstate.v...mepage.htm i normally access everything through the Holy See's website http://www.vatican.va they also run this great page which overs visual tours of the Papal Basilicas http://www.vatican.va/var...ex_en.html it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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lazycrockett said: A starving child looking at a pretty picture doesn't fill his/her stomach. just sayin.
Then again as religious as I am, which is nil, I'll leave you in peace. It's the governments of those countries where their people starve coz they are busy fighting some war or buying war machines. There are other organizations that help with starvation such as OXFAM, CARE etc. Edmonton, AB - |
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lazycrockett said: A starving child looking at a pretty picture doesn't fill his/her stomach. just sayin.
Then again as religious as I am, which is nil, I'll leave you in peace. yet you fail to notice the three post of information about everything the Church is doing. nice. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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There are many religions who make their contribution helping the worlds poor too. Edmonton, AB - |
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luv4u said: There are many religions who make their contribution helping the worlds poor too.
i don't doubt that. its more of the everyone is quick to point out Jesus said don't call anyone Father, but I posted the Pope calling for the wealthy to aid the poor and I got crickets. The JWs and the Catholics get alot of bigotry spewed to them on this forum. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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ehuffnsd said: luv4u said: There are many religions who make their contribution helping the worlds poor too.
i don't doubt that. its more of the everyone is quick to point out Jesus said don't call anyone Father, but I posted the Pope calling for the wealthy to aid the poor and I got crickets. The JWs and the Catholics get alot of bigotry spewed to them on this forum. Edmonton, AB - |
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ehuffnsd said: I call the Pope the Holy Father and the thread gets a response because people don't like that is one of his honorific titles. I post a thread where he asks for the poor to receive more attention from the wealthy and not one response?
easy. just rename this 'Holy Father Asks for More Aid to World's Poor' and see your thread get off alternatively you could also smuggle the words "abortion" or "condoms" into the thread title . [Edited 7/1/09 0:21am] “Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.” Han Solo
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Dancelot said: ehuffnsd said: I call the Pope the Holy Father and the thread gets a response because people don't like that is one of his honorific titles. I post a thread where he asks for the poor to receive more attention from the wealthy and not one response?
easy. just rename this 'Holy Father Asks for More Aid to World's Poor' and see your thread get off alternatively you could also smuggle the words "abortion" or "condoms" into the thread title . [Edited 7/1/09 0:21am] now you have summoned Hiin and gp to this thread. thanks! it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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The only beneficial and ultimately sustaianble form of charity the poor should get is contraception and abortions. Thus being given the self determination to limit the amount of soon to be starving mouths they bring into existence. Feeding and housing them only offers a safety net to breed more and the problem only increases.
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ehuffnsd said: Dancelot said: easy. just rename this 'Holy Father Asks for More Aid to World's Poor' and see your thread get off alternatively you could also smuggle the words "abortion" or "condoms" into the thread title . [Edited 7/1/09 0:21am] now you have summoned Hiin and gp to this thread. thanks! “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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dollwoman said: I am an ex-Catholic,
If the Pope lived more like Mother Theresa his plea might have more weight. When Mother Theresa was given a limo by Pope John Paul II she turned right around and sold it. People may not always have agreed with her views on the Virgin Mary, abortion etc but they respected her integrity. When a person claims to be a Christian and looks like they try to emulate Christ in lifestyle their words seem more heartfelt. I am now studying with a different Christian denomination and can go on and on about the Catholic Church both negatively and possitively. My point is they desperately need another Mother Theresa as a spokesperson if they want to truely be heard, respected,and stop shrinking and start growing. This, I wholeheartedly agree with. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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I take it he is speaking to catholics, because he can claim no authority over others, right? So my guess what he is saying to his followers is to get out there and help poor people somehow, and if that is too much work, put more in the poor box. I'm sure we all on this forum help others in one way or another. He speaks of financial system problems and it's possible his bookkeeper has been talking to him. All Charities have administration costs, some more than others, it can actually be a good business if one is at the top of the administration. I don't think the hat is a good idea though, special garments made of special stuff is pompous. | |
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rodman2 said: I take it he is speaking to catholics, because he can claim no authority over others, right? So my guess what he is saying to his followers is to get out there and help poor people somehow, and if that is too much work, put more in the poor box. I'm sure we all on this forum help others in one way or another. He speaks of financial system problems and it's possible his bookkeeper has been talking to him. All Charities have administration costs, some more than others, it can actually be a good business if one is at the top of the administration. I don't think the hat is a good idea though, special garments made of special stuff is pompous.
no he's addressing the world. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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ehuffnsd said: rodman2 said: I take it he is speaking to catholics, because he can claim no authority over others, right? So my guess what he is saying to his followers is to get out there and help poor people somehow, and if that is too much work, put more in the poor box. I'm sure we all on this forum help others in one way or another. He speaks of financial system problems and it's possible his bookkeeper has been talking to him. All Charities have administration costs, some more than others, it can actually be a good business if one is at the top of the administration. I don't think the hat is a good idea though, special garments made of special stuff is pompous.
no he's addressing the world. oh I understand the broadcast networking system, And I said who I thought the message was for. and why. None of the other many religions in the world or whatevers are going to stop and really think this message is even original. Like I said we all here give and help others. Your under the delusion that because the pope said this it should have more meaning. I'm disagreeing. [Edited 7/1/09 21:52pm] [Edited 7/1/09 21:55pm] | |
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rodman2 said: ehuffnsd said: no he's addressing the world. oh I understand the broadcast networking system, And I said who I thought the message was for. and why. None of the other many religions in the world or whatevers are going to stop and really think this message is even original. Like I said we all here give and help others. Your under the delusion that because the pope said this it should have more meaning. I'm disagreeing. [Edited 7/1/09 21:52pm] [Edited 7/1/09 21:55pm] no i am not delusion about anything. People don't listen any religious leader more than anyother. the only difference between say the Pope and Joel Osteen. Is the Pope has an international audience the respect of the world community it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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ehuffnsd said: rodman2 said: oh I understand the broadcast networking system, And I said who I thought the message was for. and why. None of the other many religions in the world or whatevers are going to stop and really think this message is even original. Like I said we all here give and help others. Your under the delusion that because the pope said this it should have more meaning. I'm disagreeing. [Edited 7/1/09 21:52pm] [Edited 7/1/09 21:55pm] no i am not delusion about anything. People don't listen any religious leader more than anyother. the only difference between say the Pope and Joel Osteen. Is the Pope has an international audience the respect of the world community Not to sure about the bold part. I still think money might be tight in the vatican account. And many Joel's would love to be able to pass plates that far, for the poor of course. | |
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VATICAN CITY – Pope Benedict XVI has urged G-8 leaders meeting in Italy next week to rewrite global financial rules and defend the world's poor from the effects of the economic downturn, the Vatican said Saturday.
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NewSystem said: Okay I stand corrected, the vatican account seems flush. By rights there shouldn't be a hungry or homeless catholic in the world. | |
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