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How come god gave the sun a shelf life? It'll burn out eventually, and then the galaxy we are in dies. Genius! "Don't hate the Black, don't hate the White. If you get bitten, just hate the bite." | |
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Marrk said: It'll burn out eventually, and then the galaxy we are in dies. Genius!
You mean the solar system we are in? Yes, it will die.... the galaxy will have another 100 billion stars to get through before it dies The universe will have another 100 billion galaxies with an average of 100 billion stars each to get through... Which begs another question, why'd God make such a big space if all he wanted to focus on was an earth which is less significant to the universe than a grain of sand in the sahara desert? "We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further." - Richard Dawkins | |
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savoirfaire said: Marrk said: It'll burn out eventually, and then the galaxy we are in dies. Genius!
You mean the solar system we are in? Yes, it will die.... the galaxy will have another 100 billion stars to get through before it dies The universe will have another 100 billion galaxies with an average of 100 billion stars each to get through... Which begs another question, why'd God make such a big space if all he wanted to focus on was an earth which is less significant to the universe than a grain of sand in the sahara desert? solar system. that's what i meant. we're so insignificant bearing in mind that most of the stars we see are suns that burnt out thousands/millions of years ago. it's absolutely mind-boggling. i love space. "Don't hate the Black, don't hate the White. If you get bitten, just hate the bite." | |
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You realize that human beings will be long gone before the sun burns out. Right?
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nothing this side of heaven was meant to last forever? | |
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Are you implying the end of our solar system undermines an argument from design? ________________
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Lammastide said: Are you implying the end of our solar system undermines an argument from design?
probably not but this is an excellent question. If god made the sun with an expriation date, that means humanity as we know it becomes extinct. Born agains and all. Perhaps there will only be cro-magnons at the end of it all  2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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Genesia said: You realize that human beings will be long gone before the sun burns out. Right?
Everything has a life cycle. Individual beings...species...stars...  Sure i do. Others might not. You missed 'everything' specifically Genesia. "Don't hate the Black, don't hate the White. If you get bitten, just hate the bite." | |
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God IS the sun | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Lammastide said: Are you implying the end of our solar system undermines an argument from design?
probably not Ahh. Then I look forward to seeing what implication there is. but this is an excellent question. If god made the sun with an expriation date, that means humanity as we know it becomes extinct. Born agains and all. Perhaps there will only be cro-magnons at the end of it all What seems to be the problem?  ________________
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Lammastide said: Are you implying the end of our solar system undermines an argument from design?
probably not but this is an excellent question. If god made the sun with an expriation date, that means humanity as we know it becomes extinct. Born agains and all. Perhaps there will only be cro-magnons at the end of it all That is an excellent response to an excellent question! However, I have no idea what a cro-magnon is! "Don't hate the Black, don't hate the White. If you get bitten, just hate the bite." | |
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Marrk said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: probably not but this is an excellent question. If god made the sun with an expriation date, that means humanity as we know it becomes extinct. Born agains and all. Perhaps there will only be cro-magnons at the end of it all That is an excellent response to an excellent question! However, I have no idea what a cro-magnon is! And do you plan on responding? Or might I assume Richard's response would also characterize your own? ________________
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it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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Lammastide said: Marrk said: That is an excellent response to an excellent question! However, I have no idea what a cro-magnon is! And do you plan on responding? Or might I assume Richard's response would also characterize your own? I just find it interesting. If he exists, perhaps he's like us and rips it up and starts again elsewhere sometimes. "Don't hate the Black, don't hate the White. If you get bitten, just hate the bite." | |
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Marrk said: Lammastide said: And do you plan on responding? Or might I assume Richard's response would also characterize your own? I just find it interesting. If he exists, perhaps he's like us and rips it up and starts again elsewhere sometimes. I dunno. Maybe. 
Here's an interesting and very quick read, mate: Revelation 6. (Verse 12 might be of particular interest to you.) An "end" of sorts has never been antithetical to theistic notion. [Edited 6/12/09 15:38pm] ________________
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As a kid I would watch PBS and NOVA etc. religiously. And after watching such programs about the stars, galaxies and all, you never saw a catholic kid go outside at night looking at the stars so dumfounded and depressed. Thinking about what the meaning of life, good and bad, heaven and earth……
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Lammastide said: Marrk said: I just find it interesting. If he exists, perhaps he's like us and rips it up and starts again elsewhere sometimes. I dunno. Maybe.
Here's an interesting and very quick read, mate: Revelation 6. (Verse 12 might be of particular interest to you.) An "end" of sorts has never been antithetical to theistic notion. [Edited 6/12/09 15:38pm] Yeah, i googled that. The 'New Interational Version' title alone bothers me somewhat though. I'd be very apprehensive of the original authors uderstanding and comprehension of the sun, it's workings and longevity. "Don't hate the Black, don't hate the White. If you get bitten, just hate the bite." | |
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Marrk said: Lammastide said: I dunno. Maybe.
Here's an interesting and very quick read, mate: Revelation 6. (Verse 12 might be of particular interest to you.) An "end" of sorts has never been antithetical to theistic notion. [Edited 6/12/09 15:38pm] Yeah, i googled that. The 'New Interational Version' title alone bothers me somewhat though. I'd be very apprehensive of the original authors uderstanding and comprehension of the sun, it's workings and longevity. And you should be. The author was likely no ancient astrophysicist. But the take-home lesson of his (or her) writings is that in a theistic worldview (at least a Judeo-Christian one), an end is not foreign -- it's inevitable.[Edited 6/12/09 16:55pm] ________________
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violetblues said: As a kid I would watch PBS and NOVA etc. religiously. And after watching such programs about the stars, galaxies and all, you never saw a catholic kid go outside at night looking at the stars so dumfounded and depressed. Thinking about what the meaning of life, good and bad, heaven and earth……
Heavy stuff, good thing I outgrew that! I'm not certain I follow. Are you saying the exposure to astronomy, etc., gave a sense of scale and awe to your faith or supplanted it? ________________
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Lammastide said: violetblues said: As a kid I would watch PBS and NOVA etc. religiously. And after watching such programs about the stars, galaxies and all, you never saw a catholic kid go outside at night looking at the stars so dumfounded and depressed. Thinking about what the meaning of life, good and bad, heaven and earth……
Heavy stuff, good thing I outgrew that! I'm not certain I follow. Are you saying the exposure to astronomy, etc., gave a sense of scale and awe to your faith or supplanted it? I have never outgrew it. I still have those conversations with myself 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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anyone check the video with the head of the Vatican Observatory that i posted? it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Lammastide said: I'm not certain I follow. Are you saying the exposure to astronomy, etc., gave a sense of scale and awe to your faith or supplanted it? I have never outgrew it. I still have those conversations with myself Me too. ________________
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ehuffnsd said: anyone check the video with the head of the Vatican Observatory that i posted?
Sure did. I enjoyed it. ________________
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Lammastide said: ehuffnsd said: anyone check the video with the head of the Vatican Observatory that i posted?
Sure did. I enjoyed it. i'm starting to love this guy. i saw him in Bill Mahers movie and he was the one of three sane people in it, funny all three sane clergy were Jesuits, and seen some more interviews with him and he just seems to put it all in perspective. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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Lammastide said: violetblues said: As a kid I would watch PBS and NOVA etc. religiously. And after watching such programs about the stars, galaxies and all, you never saw a catholic kid go outside at night looking at the stars so dumfounded and depressed. Thinking about what the meaning of life, good and bad, heaven and earth……
Heavy stuff, good thing I outgrew that! I'm not certain I follow. Are you saying the exposure to astronomy, etc., gave a sense of scale and awe to your faith or supplanted it? No no I kid, it’s just something so huge and out of my league of understanding that I try and block it from my every day mundane life or else I won’t get anything done, like picking up the kids from soccer practice. Socrates I never will be. | |
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violetblues said: Lammastide said: I'm not certain I follow. Are you saying the exposure to astronomy, etc., gave a sense of scale and awe to your faith or supplanted it? No no I kid, it’s just something so huge and out of my league of understanding that I try and block it from my every day mundane life or else I won’t get anything done, like picking up the kids from soccer practice. Socrates I never will be. I understand.________________
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savoirfaire said: Marrk said: It'll burn out eventually, and then the galaxy we are in dies. Genius!
You mean the solar system we are in? Yes, it will die.... the galaxy will have another 100 billion stars to get through before it dies The universe will have another 100 billion galaxies with an average of 100 billion stars each to get through... Which begs another question, why'd God make such a big space if all he wanted to focus on was an earth which is less significant to the universe than a grain of sand in the sahara desert? Sounds like you were watching a program that was aired on tv about the universe, that was aired last week. Can't remember which channel, but the narrator said the same thing, about the 100 billion galaxies and over 100 billion stars down to the part about the grain of sand in the sahara desert. Education, the greatest weapon
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ehuffnsd said: anyone check the video with the head of the Vatican Observatory that i posted?
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Marrk said: It'll burn out eventually, and then the galaxy we are in dies. Genius!
I'm sure someone has pointed out the galaxy won't even notice the loss of our sun and solar system. That's millions of years off. You have highly optimistic expectations of humanity. | |
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2elijah said: savoirfaire said: You mean the solar system we are in? Yes, it will die.... the galaxy will have another 100 billion stars to get through before it dies The universe will have another 100 billion galaxies with an average of 100 billion stars each to get through... Which begs another question, why'd God make such a big space if all he wanted to focus on was an earth which is less significant to the universe than a grain of sand in the sahara desert? Sounds like you were watching a program that was aired on tv about the universe, that was aired last week. Can't remember which channel, but the narrator said the same thing, about the 100 billion galaxies and over 100 billion stars down to the part about the grain of sand in the sahara desert. Grains of sand in the Sahara? Or more stars than there are grains of sands on all the beaches on earth? I heard the latter. | |
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