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What a brave, brave man... http://www.nationalpost.c...id=1629449
Legal judgments can sometimes wear disguises. What appears to be a loss - as did, at first blush, the ruling on Monday dismissing Lawrence Hughes' appeal of a lawsuit against the Canadian branch of Jehovah's Witnesses - may, in fact, offer subtle victory.
That, at least, is Mr. Hughes' impression, as he continues doggedly, nearly seven years after the death of his daughter, Bethany, to hold the sect's governing Watchtower Society and its lawyers responsible for her death. "I see it as a win," he said yesterday. For a man who has lost his daughter, been shunned by his surviving children, divorced by his wife and gone bankrupt from legal costs, reduced to defending himself in court, the instinct to imagine the smallest of triumphs must be powerful. But Mr. Hughes is not just thinking wishfully. Legal scholars following the case sense, too, that in their ruling dismissing Mr. Hughes' appeals of a lower court ruling, three higher court justices appear to have secreted within what could be worrying setbacks for this legally aggressive sect accustomed to mobilizing the courts to block members from receiving life-saving transfusions against their family's or doctor's advice. "To me, what is significant in this judgment is what it does not say, more than what it says," says Alice Woolley, a legal ethicist at the University of Calgary. What it most clearly does not say is that Mr. Hughes is necessarily wrong in claiming that his daughter received problematic advice from lawyers working not just for her, but also for a religious body intent on seeing her denied the blood she needed. "If I was advising [the Watchtower Society and its lawyers] I would now say, ‘At some point, this is no longer going to work out for you,' " Ms. Woolley says. When Bethany Hughes died in the summer of 2002, her story was national news; the girl, just turned 17, had been diagnosed earlier that year with acute myeloid leukemia, but had fought, legally and physically, blood transfusions prescribed by doctors on religious grounds, her resistance abetted by lawyers from a firm that, by all available evidence, is a branch of the Watchtower Society itself, retaining the church as its primary client - a "captive law firm" as one judge described Glen How and Associates, employer of Bethany's lawyers David Gnam and Shane Brady. The firm is even located within the Watchtower Society's Georgetown, Ont. compound. This appeared to present potential conflict between the Church's interests - promoting its belief that the Book of Acts prohibits transfusions - and the unique interests of a sick girl. The sect's lawyers, her devout mother, the "hospital liaisons" sent by the society to stay constantly at Bethany's bedside, all, one judge ruled as Bethany lay ill, had persuaded her with "incorrect information," put "undue influence" on the girl, clouding her ability to independently make decisions. The court awarded guardianship over the minor to the province and the transfusions proceeded, 80 of them, despite Bethany's attempts, and her mother's, to tear intravenous tubes from her body. When Bethany's prognosis deteriorated, the province surrendered its guardianship. The girl was spirited by her mother, lawyers and liaisons from Calgary's children's hospital to a secret location concealed from her father. She died several weeks later at Edmonton's Cross Cancer Institute where doctors administered experimental treatments of arsenic and vitamin C. Mr. Hughes had abandoned his Jehovah's Witness faith to fight for transfusions, refusing to allow his teenage daughter to martyr herself for religion. This made him, under Church rules, an outcast: his wife, his other two daughters, his friends, all shunned him. He has come to refer to the Church as a "cult"; his daughter, he says, was the victim of implicit threats of social and familial ostracism - "disfellowship" they call it. "If you accept the blood transfusion, you lose your family, your friends," Mr. Hughes says. "It's like someone standing there with a gun to your head." For a child, told, as the court found, by the believers around her that the transfusions were both sinful and harmful, the choice to resist would seem overwhelming. He believes Bethany's resistance made her sicker, and prevented her the comfort of palliative care in her last days. It was the Church, and its lawyers, Mr. Hughes believes, that caused his daughter to die unnecessarily and in avoidable suffering. The courts have been wary of this: religious liberties are not something judges eagerly wade into. And the fact that Bethany did eventually get court-ordered transfusions was enough, in the appeal court's eyes, to show, whatever advice she got from believers about blood had caused "no harm," upholding last year's lower court ruling to that effect by Justice Alan Macleod. But Justice Macleod had been firm, also, in his belief that Bethany's lawyers were not conflicted. The appeal judges noticeably stopped short of endorsing this. "It is not necessary for us to decide whether the claims of conflict or misrepresentation were arguable," they wrote, putting the question aside. "This is conspicuous," Ms. Woolley says. "I think if they thought Macleod was right, they would have pronounced on it." Mr. Gnam and Mr. Brady, she believes, are far from absolved of perceptions of improper representation. For a church used to aggressive legal manoeuvring - the two lawyers have travelled Canada over the years fighting to stop Jehovah's Witnesses from getting blood, suing all the way to the Supreme Court - this cannot be a welcome development. This may seem minor, but not to Mr. Hughes. Nor was it the only news that had him smiling brightly yesterday as he leafed through an appeals judgment littered with the phrase "dismissed." In addition to now-thrown-out claims over the resistance to blood transfusions, he seeks $1-million in damages caused by the peculiar arsenic treatment that was administered to Bethany after she left Calgary - a treatment he claims was demanded by Bethany and her lawyers. The courts, having already questioned the reliability of this coterie's advice to this minor, the hospital, he says, should not have complied. "I was her guardian [too]," Mr. Hughes, says. "They should have called me." Pat Peacock, the Calgary lawyer representing Mr. Gnam and Mr. Brady, had asked the appeals court to dismiss this case against his clients, too. The judges refused. That, Mr. Hughes believes, leaves him opportunity to do what he has sought all along: to demonstrate in court that hospitals must be more circumspect in accepting instruction from religious leaders and believers when treating Jehovah's Witnesses. "The Watchtower Society are still in the lawsuit, so that means I can still bring forth expert testimony and evidence [that] when it comes to the issue of consent, I can show through evidence that the involvement of the religious defendants removed [Bethany's] consent." That could well put the behaviour and direction of Bethany's lawyers in the spotlight, says Juliet Guichon, who teaches law and medical ethics at the University of Calgary. When the lawyers and Watchtower guardians delivered Bethany to Edmonton, to a new group of doctors potentially unfamiliar with the complex and troubling legal issues surrounding her case, "if the doctors have engaged in any wrongdoing, it's possible that these Watchtower Society people will be found party to it," she says. That remains to be seen. Mr. Hughes envisions his case making a big enough impact in the medical and legal communities that it will end what he believes are ongoing and widspread legal injustices against patients like Bethany: Jehovah's Witnesses lacking a secular, independent advocate, pressured to accept a potentially deadly anti-blood doctrine. Till now, Mr. Hughes has had to accept only minor victories, and no shortage of losses. After so many years and sacrifices, perhaps he has little choice but to convince himself that his biggest legal triumph is yet to come. http://www.calgaryherald....story.html http://www.religionnewsbl...t-quackery ONLY LOSERS FEAR A MORE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD~~Sananda Maitreya Beware of men that will not go down! (I wish my momma had taught me all this)-BklynBabe | |
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noimageatall said: What a brave brave man. Agreed. It really is tragic that so many people worldwide are under the influence of this nefarious organisation. They are of course not the only such organisation. Probably not even the worst example. But a terribly abusive regime non the less. "It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him"
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I've been following this from the beginning.
"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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Mr Hughes had every right to have a say in his daughter's treatment.
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razor said: noimageatall said: What a brave brave man. Agreed. It really is tragic that so many people worldwide are under the influence of this nefarious organisation. They are of course not the only such organisation. Probably not even the worst example. But a terribly abusive regime non the less. Sad that it took me 20 years to figure out they are just like all the rest. Although I think they may be worse because of all the people who have needlessly died because of this blood law. Most other religions have at least evolved to a point where they don't require a sacrifice, yet JWS refuse to let go of this ridiculous man-made rule. Funny how they can change any other law at the drop of a hat, yet this one keeps killing and killing... ONLY LOSERS FEAR A MORE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD~~Sananda Maitreya Beware of men that will not go down! (I wish my momma had taught me all this)-BklynBabe | |
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shellyevon said: I've been following this from the beginning.
He is truly a David fighting the Goliath battalion of Watchtower lawyers. I hope he wins this round Sad, sad situation. You know, if the WTS was consistent with their blood policy, I could somewhat see their point, but they are wishy washy, allowing some blood fractions but denying others quite arbitrarily. That's the truly sad part...so many people...mothers, fathers, sisters, sons, brothers, daughters...needlessly dead and then the rules change. It is criminal to me. ONLY LOSERS FEAR A MORE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD~~Sananda Maitreya Beware of men that will not go down! (I wish my momma had taught me all this)-BklynBabe | |
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Unbelievably sad. "I think one of the things that we're probably proudest of -- I certainly am -- is that the message was always love, in any form we portrayed it." - Paul McCartney | |
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noimageatall said:
Lawrence Hughes abandoned his Jehovah’s Witness faith to fight for a blood transfusion for his daughter, Bethany, who had acute myeloid leukemia. Honey, it wouldn't take nothing as drastic as a blood transfusion to make me abandon the Jehovah's Witnesses if I was one of them. All it would take is a beer, a cigarette, and a dick and I'd tell the JW's to kiss my ass. Andy has spoken dammitt. | |
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He is sooo going to Hell “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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vainandy said: noimageatall said:
Lawrence Hughes abandoned his Jehovah’s Witness faith to fight for a blood transfusion for his daughter, Bethany, who had acute myeloid leukemia. Honey, it wouldn't take nothing as drastic as a blood transfusion to make me abandon the Jehovah's Witnesses if I was one of them. All it would take is a beer, a cigarette, and a dick and I'd tell the JW's to kiss my ass. Ok, vain...it IS you who is the antichrist! ONLY LOSERS FEAR A MORE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD~~Sananda Maitreya Beware of men that will not go down! (I wish my momma had taught me all this)-BklynBabe | |
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this whole notion of excommunication is nothing more than terrorism. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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For a man who has lost his daughter, been shunned by his surviving children, divorced by his wife and gone bankrupt from legal costs, reduced to defending himself in court, the instinct to imagine the smallest of triumphs must be powerful.
He lost everything but his integrity... Very apropos for your sig, jelly... "The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie. One word of truth outweighs the world.": Alexander Solzhenitsyn ONLY LOSERS FEAR A MORE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD~~Sananda Maitreya Beware of men that will not go down! (I wish my momma had taught me all this)-BklynBabe | |
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noimageatall said: razor said: Agreed. It really is tragic that so many people worldwide are under the influence of this nefarious organisation. They are of course not the only such organisation. Probably not even the worst example. But a terribly abusive regime non the less. Sad that it took me 20 years to figure out they are just like all the rest. Although I think they may be worse because of all the people who have needlessly died because of this blood law. Most other religions have at least evolved to a point where they don't require a sacrifice, yet JWS refuse to let go of this ridiculous man-made rule. Funny how they can change any other law at the drop of a hat, yet this one keeps killing and killing... It's clear you regret those 20 years. But the courage to think for yourself and break away is an acheivement of the stature most will never reach in alifetime. Rest of your life ahead of you as a result. Be proud not regretful. [Edited 5/28/09 16:54pm] "It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him"
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razor said: noimageatall said: Sad that it took me 20 years to figure out they are just like all the rest. Although I think they may be worse because of all the people who have needlessly died because of this blood law. Most other religions have at least evolved to a point where they don't require a sacrifice, yet JWS refuse to let go of this ridiculous man-made rule. Funny how they can change any other law at the drop of a hat, yet this one keeps killing and killing... It's clear you regret those 20 years. But the courage to think for yourself and break away is an acheivement of the stature most will never reach in alifetime. Rest of your life ahead of you as a result. Be proud not regretful. [Edited 5/28/09 16:54pm] And if we could all do that...what a better world this might be. ONLY LOSERS FEAR A MORE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD~~Sananda Maitreya Beware of men that will not go down! (I wish my momma had taught me all this)-BklynBabe | |
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This appeared to present potential conflict between the Church's interests - promoting its belief that the Book of Acts prohibits transfusions - and the unique interests of a sick girl.
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noimageatall said: razor said: It's clear you regret those 20 years. But the courage to think for yourself and break away is an acheivement of the stature most will never reach in alifetime. Rest of your life ahead of you as a result. Be proud not regretful. [Edited 5/28/09 16:54pm] And if we could all do that...what a better world this might be. Absolutely. "It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him"
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Okay I read the story. If taking a blood transfusion is a Witness' choice, how did this go this far? Because his wife didn't want it and he did? Can someone break this down for me? God DAMN there are a lot of dumb motherfuckers walking around! - George Carlin
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Vendetta1 said: Okay I read the story. If taking a blood transfusion is a Witness' choice, how did this go this far? Because his wife didn't want it and he did? Can someone break this down for me?
I can. I knew Bethany via a now-defunct message board back in '02. She would post when feeling well enough. I've gotta run but I'll post more about this sad experience later. Peace, U. Interesting essay in the meantime: http://www.megaessays.com...98608.html [Edited 5/29/09 7:22am] | |
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I wish Kingdom Hall could be litigated into decency. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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But the very heart of Mr. Hughes's claim is that no one, least of all Bethany, could have known what Bethany wanted.
This is because, in April, 2002, a judge had emphatically ruled that Bethany no longer had a free, informed will. The judge lamented the "pressures and influences that have been brought to bear on her in the last few weeks to maintain her position on blood transfusions." Even though Bethany was gravely ill, the court held that religious adherents had prevented Bethany from being "allowed to look death in the face." The court said that Bethany was the subject of "undue influence" that "has taken away her ability to make an informed choice." People would be all up in arms. Being pregnant is a big deal. Women can and do die as a result of bearing a child OR abortions but people on this board argue right to choose to the death. I fail to see the difference in decision-making abilities. Mr. Hughes and the Canadian government persecuted this poor girl and robbed her of any peace she may have had while coming to grips with her sadly shortened life expectancy. For her father to continue this nonsense over seven years later is simply pathetic, IMO. Bethany was the brave, brave one. At least she is now sleeping peacefully, waiting to be called from her memorial tomb. To be welcomed back by her family into a world where no one will say, "I am sick" any longer. That's the hope that sustained her through all her trials and I am looking forward to meeting my brave sister at that time. | |
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This ridiculous man made edict turns otherwise heartfelt individuals into savages. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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Not man-made; however, believe as you wish.
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Uhope said: Not man-made; however, believe as you wish.
I agree that Hughes became a savage rather than truly see what he was doing to his dying daughter. Believing that a transfusion is the same as eating is lunacy. It's tragic that his dying daughter had to be subject to forced mental illness to her death. So very sad. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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in what logic does refusing blood transfusions but experimenting with arsenic as a cure a good idea?
"passing strange"... experience the real
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As I mentioned, the arsenic treatment is suspect. That report could be just as misrepresenting as some of the rest of it is.
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Uhope said: As I mentioned, the arsenic treatment is suspect. That report could be just as misrepresenting as some of the rest of it is.
Regardless -- any comment on my points for consideration? Agreement isn't necessary, just acknowledgment would be nice. Bottom line -- Hughes sold out Bethany, his family and his God with his cowardice. His young daughter was a thousand times braver, sticking to what he taught her and she accepted to be true. Pride is a sin. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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Indeed. And look what it cost the man, rather than demonstrating the humility, faith & integrity he taught his family. | |
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Uhope said: Indeed. And look what it cost the man, rather than demonstrating the humility, faith & integrity he taught his family.
Your and other's pride to not have the ability to think and admit that this man made rule is killing innocent people. 2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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