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Iraqi who threw shoes at Bush jailed for 3 years

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BAGHDAD – The Iraqi journalist who threw shoes at then-President George W. Bush was convicted Thursday of assaulting a foreign leader and sentenced to three years in prison, lawyers said. He defiantly shouted "long live Iraq" when the sentence was read.

Muntadhar al-Zeidi's bold act in December electrified many across the Middle East who consider him a hero for expressing his anger at a president who is widely disliked for his decision to invade Iraq in 2003.

The 30-year-old journalist pleaded not guilty to the assault charge Thursday, telling the three-judge panel that "what I did was a natural response to the occupation."

Reporters and family members were then ordered out of the courtroom for the verdict, which was relayed to them by defense attorneys and a court official.

Some of al-Zeidi's relatives collapsed after the ruling was issued and had to be helped out of the courthouse. Others were forcibly removed by guards after shouting "down with Bush" and "long live Iraq."

"This judiciary is not just," al-Zeidi's brother, Dargham, said tearfully after Thursday verdict was announced.

Court spokesman Abdul-Sattar Bayrkdar said al-Zeidi received the minimum sentence for the assault charge but could appeal the conviction. He could have received up to 15 years in prison for hurling his shoes at Bush during a Dec. 14 news conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

Defense lawyers said the judge showed leniency because of al-Zeidi's age and clean record. But they had hoped for an even lighter sentence, arguing the journalist's actions constituted an insult rather than an assault.

"The sentence was unexpectedly harsh," said Yehya al-Eitabi, one of some two dozen defense lawyers who attended Thursday's hearing. He said they would appeal the verdict.

His assessment was shared by some in Baghdad.

"Al-Zeidi should have been honored and not sent to prison," said Salam Omar, who owns a cell phone shop in eastern Baghdad.

The journalist has been in Iraqi custody since the shoe incident. Bush quickly ducked to avoid being hit and was not injured. Al-Zeidi was quickly wrestled to the ground by guards and dragged away.

During Thursday's proceedings, al-Zeidi, wearing a beige suit over a brown shirt and brown leather shoes, walked swiftly to the wooden dock where defendants are kept and greeted the panel of three judges with a nod and a wave.

Presiding Judge Abdul-Amir al-Rubaie asked al-Zeidi to enter a plea.

"I am innocent," he replied.

The proceedings took place under heavy guard with scores of armed policemen inside the courtroom and the Iraqi soldiers who escorted al-Zeidi waiting outside.

The trial began on Feb. 19 but was adjourned until Thursday as the judges weighed a defense argument that the current charge is not applicable because Bush was not in Baghdad on an official visit, having arrived unannounced and without an invitation.

Al-Rubaie read a response from the prime minister's office insisting it was an official visit.

Chief defense attorney Dhia al-Saadi then demanded that the charge be dismissed, saying his client's action "was an expression of freedom and does not constitute a crime."

He echoed al-Zeidi's testimony at the previous hearing, saying his client had been provoked by anger over Bush's claims of success in a war that has devastated his country.

"It was an act of throwing a shoe and not a rocket. It was meant as an insult to the occupation," the lawyer said.

The judge then turned to the defendant and asked whether he had anything to add.

"I have great faith in the Iraqi judiciary. It is a judiciary that is both just and has integrity," al-Zeidi responded.

Many people in the region — angry over the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq — have embraced al-Zeidi. They have staged large street rallies calling for his release, and one Iraqi man erected a sofa-sized sculpture of a shoe in his honor that the Iraqi government later ordered removed.

When al-Zeidi threw his shoes at Bush, he shouted in Arabic: "This is your farewell kiss, you dog! This is from the widows, the orphans and those who were killed in Iraq."

Al-Maliki was deeply embarrassed by the action against an American president who had stood by him when some Arab leaders were quietly urging the U.S. to oust him.

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Reply #1 posted 03/12/09 12:56pm

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That seems a bit harsh.....

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Reply #2 posted 03/12/09 1:01pm

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Three years for assaulting the leader of a country doesn't seem bad at all to me.

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Reply #3 posted 03/12/09 1:37pm

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So how many years is Bush going to get for what he's done? hmmm

Of course, I'm a Liberal! I'm an American, damn it!

This country was founded on the premise of Liberty and Justice for ALL...remember?


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Reply #4 posted 03/12/09 1:51pm

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Is the 3 years for throwing or missing? wink

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Reply #5 posted 03/12/09 2:03pm

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mdiver said:

Is the 3 years for throwing or missing? wink



falloff I know right? He didn't even hit ole Bushwhack. I guess its the perception and negative impression. Hopefully he will get some form of probation...assuming they do that sort of thing. confused Bush got good reflexes tho.

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Reply #6 posted 03/12/09 2:06pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

mdiver said:

Is the 3 years for throwing or missing? wink



falloff I know right? He didn't even hit ole Bushwhack. I guess its the perception and negative impression. Hopefully he will get some form of probation...assuming they do that sort of thing. confused Bush got good reflexes tho.


I wish it had smacked that asshole clean in the kisser lol

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Reply #7 posted 03/12/09 2:14pm

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mdiver said:

Is the 3 years for throwing or missing? wink



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Reply #8 posted 03/12/09 2:16pm

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http://prince.org/msg/105/300558 lock

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Reply #9 posted 03/12/09 5:26pm

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3 years for throwing a shoe at someone?!?!

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Reply #10 posted 03/12/09 5:27pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

So how many years is Bush going to get for what he's done? hmmm


for real

if throwing a shoe at someone is worth 3 years, the penalty for starting a false war must be EXTREME

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Reply #11 posted 03/12/09 6:00pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

mdiver said:

Is the 3 years for throwing or missing? wink



falloff I know right? He didn't even hit ole Bushwhack. I guess its the perception and negative impression. Hopefully he will get some form of probation...assuming they do that sort of thing. confused Bush got good reflexes tho.


3 years isn't a long enough sentence. 10 years is a start. No probation.

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Reply #12 posted 03/12/09 8:42pm

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confused I posted this early this morning @ 4:26am. Damg-m. That's what happens when I post while everyone's asleep. boxed

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Reply #13 posted 03/12/09 9:57pm

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and they weren't even size 10s...small feet having mofo!! biggrin

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Reply #14 posted 03/13/09 6:38am

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He should have received 3 hours and a snickers.

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Reply #15 posted 03/13/09 6:41am

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It's a travesty of justice. Let's not forget, he is going to be in prison in Iraq. This will make prison here look mighty nice. It will seem like 16 years, not 3, just for doin something we all would have wanted to do, to a war criminal and murderer.

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Reply #16 posted 03/13/09 9:07am

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2freaky4church1 said:

It's a travesty of justice. Let's not forget, he is going to be in prison in Iraq. This will make prison here look mighty nice. It will seem like 16 years, not 3, just for doin something we all would have wanted to do, to a war criminal and murderer.



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Reply #17 posted 03/13/09 9:42am

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2freaky4church1 said:

It's a travesty of justice. Let's not forget, he is going to be in prison in Iraq. This will make prison here look mighty nice. It will seem like 16 years, not 3, just for doin something we all would have wanted to do, to a war criminal and murderer.


I am willing to bet that he will be treated pretty well in prison. Still 3 years is harsh, but not suprising. You can't attempt to assault the leader of another country and walk away with a slap on the wrist.
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Shawnt26 said:

2freaky4church1 said:

It's a travesty of justice. Let's not forget, he is going to be in prison in Iraq. This will make prison here look mighty nice. It will seem like 16 years, not 3, just for doin something we all would have wanted to do, to a war criminal and murderer.


I am willing to bet that he will be treated pretty well in prison. Still 3 years is harsh, but not suprising. You can't attempt to assault the leader of another country and walk away with a slap on the wrist.
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This could be a "pretend" sentence. If u get my drift.....

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Reply #19 posted 03/13/09 10:12am

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Graycap23 said:

Shawnt26 said:



I am willing to bet that he will be treated pretty well in prison. Still 3 years is harsh, but not suprising. You can't attempt to assault the leader of another country and walk away with a slap on the wrist.
[Edited 3/13/09 9:48am]

This could be a "pretend" sentence. If u get my drift.....


Most definitely.

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noimageatall said:

confused I posted this early this morning @ 4:26am. Damg-m. That's what happens when I post while everyone's asleep. boxed

http://prince.org/msg/105/300558



Yes you did. I missed that due to the title. Let's continue here -Mars23:

http://prince.org/msg/105/300558

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Reply #22 posted 03/13/09 2:39pm

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Mars23 said:

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oh, just be honest... you're drunk wink
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Reply #23 posted 03/13/09 3:03pm

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cborgman said:

Mars23 said:

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oh, just be honest... you're drunk wink
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Thank god I thought i was the only drinking this early.

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lazycrockett said:

cborgman said:


oh, just be honest... you're drunk wink
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Thank god I thought i was the only drinking this early.

martini queen cowboy absolut

N no i don't know what the queen or cowboy has to do with anything. I hit the wrong button but they were cute, so as a gay man they got to stay.


i am guessing i am the queen and mars is the cowboy?

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Reply #25 posted 03/13/09 3:09pm

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Mars23 said:

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oh, just be honest... you're drunk wink
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lol No, but I am.

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

So how many years is Bush going to get for what he's done? hmmm



Zero, zilch, nada biggrin , he actually made of with a bunch of loot by starting the Iraq war. wink

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pplrain said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

So how many years is Bush going to get for what he's done? hmmm



Zero, zilch, nada biggrin , he actually made of with a bunch of loot by starting the Iraq war. wink



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Reply #28 posted 03/15/09 1:26pm

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He got three years because it wasn't deemed to be an official visit by GWB... I can't exactly figure out the difference between an "official state visit" and a "farewell visit", but that was the issue apparently. If it had been judged to be an official visit he probably would've gotten life or worse. The dumbass shit they come up with... the man should get a cardboard image of GWB and an endless supply of steel toe boots to practice with. Three years will improve his aim I think. nod

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Reply #29 posted 03/17/09 2:32am

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3 years is harsh. This guys deserves a feast in his honour, or something. A bag of chips, if nothing else.

But then, it's true that you can't just whip something at a national leaders' head and not expect some repurcussions.

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