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Thread started 03/01/09 5:58pm

JayJai

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Abortion...(UPDATED)

I personally believe abortions are a no no no! but with some exceptions.
What situations do u believe it is "ok" for one to have an abortion?
I'll start: according to my friend's doctor, she needs to have an abortion because she has a bladder stone. She's already starting to have pain from the weight of the embryo pressing against the bladder. The doc said she can't treat it (the bladder stone) while pregnant cause it's risky for the embryo and if not treated, she'll be at health risk as the embryo continues growing.
Wat do u say to this orgers?
In this case...yay or nay to the abortion?
[Edited 3/18/09 19:52pm]

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Reply #1 posted 03/01/09 5:59pm

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Wrong forum - jus sayin

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Reply #2 posted 03/01/09 6:00pm

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in your friend's case, what is the alternative?

how about the brazilian 9yo pregnant with twins (by her step-fater cry ) who is physically too immature to carry one baby, let alone 2?

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Reply #3 posted 03/01/09 6:06pm

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if your...

too young
incest
molestation
or your partner doesn't want it





I would carry a child to term even if my health was at risk.

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Reply #4 posted 03/01/09 6:08pm

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honeypot69 said:

if your...

too young
incest
molestation
or your partner doesn't want it





I would carry a child to term even if my health was at risk.


so would I, but we are both fully grown and know what we are getting into - it's an educated choice

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Reply #5 posted 03/01/09 6:12pm

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Mach said:

Wrong forum - jus sayin

confused really? Didn't seem like it'll fit in 'politics and religion' to me, though it may get tied up in that confuse...oh well...
back to the topic! smile

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Reply #6 posted 03/01/09 6:13pm

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ZombieKitten said:

honeypot69 said:

if your...

too young
incest
molestation
or your partner doesn't want it





I would carry a child to term even if my health was at risk.


so would I, but we are both fully grown and know what we are getting into - it's an educated choice


I agree. I guess its something that only she can decide. I think that ultimately the best way for her to do that is to think about it logically without having emotions involved.

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Reply #7 posted 03/01/09 6:19pm

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ZombieKitten said:

in your friend's case, what is the alternative?

how about the brazilian 9yo pregnant with twins (by her step-fater cry ) who is physically too immature to carry one baby, let alone 2?


We didn't discuss that, but the pills she may need to take to possibly melt/dissolve the stone(s) can be harmful to the embryo, then there's the laser surgery to blast the stones which the doc says is a no no no! while she's pregnant. No radiation and stuff like that. It doesn't bother her cause there are other weighty reasons why she can go ahead with the abortion, but this is the reason why she made up her mind to do it.
If I was in her shoe, I would've done the same.

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Reply #8 posted 03/01/09 6:23pm

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Well it's never an entirely "ok" thing to do, but it's necessary sometimes & totally the woman's choice. Most people don't have abortions without a care, it's a serious choice to make & I don't think most people take it lightly at all...

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Reply #9 posted 03/01/09 6:34pm

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ZombieKitten said:

in your friend's case, what is the alternative?

how about the brazilian 9yo pregnant with twins (by her step-fater cry ) who is physically too immature to carry one baby, let alone 2?

eek sad

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Reply #10 posted 03/01/09 6:44pm

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ZombieKitten said:

in your friend's case, what is the alternative?

how about the brazilian 9yo pregnant with twins (by her step-fater cry ) who is physically too immature to carry one baby, let alone 2?



Say what??? eek

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Reply #11 posted 03/01/09 6:45pm

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Each person has their own reason to have an abortion. I may not agree with it but until I've walked a mile in that person's shoes, I can't say it's the wrong choice. I personally couldn't fathom having one, not because of moral issues but because of attachment issues, but if my doctor was recommending it then I'd probably take her advice. And I would hope my friends and family would be supportive of that.

If you ever need anything please don't hesitate to ask someone else first...
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As for my thoughts on abortion, I feel it should NEVER be used as a form of birth control unless....there was incest, medical conditions, or rape involved. I don't feel being to young (teenage sex) is an option, there is always adoption in cases like that.

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Reply #13 posted 03/01/09 7:02pm

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MoniGram said:

ZombieKitten said:

in your friend's case, what is the alternative?

how about the brazilian 9yo pregnant with twins (by her step-fater cry ) who is physically too immature to carry one baby, let alone 2?



Say what??? eek


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Reply #14 posted 03/01/09 7:33pm

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I'd never have an abortion. It's not up to me to decide if another woman should or shouldn't. Having kids is the hardest thing I could ever do and having a disabled child with no support system is even harder. I wouldn't want a child brought into the world that would be surrounded with anything but love. Bringing a kid in the world to be mistreated, abused or unloved is a terrible thing to do.

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Reply #15 posted 03/01/09 8:36pm

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ZombieKitten said:

MoniGram said:




Say what??? eek


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15yrs!? I'm sorry,but I don't think that is long enough. it's bad enough that he abused the 9yr old,but to go after her physically disabled sister as well is amazing low. disbelief

and to answer the question,I also don't believe that abortion should be used as a form of birth control. There are plenty of options out there for that.
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Reply #17 posted 03/01/09 9:02pm

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MoniGram said:

As for my thoughts on abortion, I feel it should NEVER be used as a form of birth control unless....there was incest, medical conditions, or rape involved. I don't feel being to young (teenage sex) is an option, there is always adoption in cases like that.


Those aren't cases of abortion being used as birth control.
Also in the case of the nine year old, she'll probably die in childbirth,if the babies survive, they'll probably be . . . ?

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Reply #18 posted 03/01/09 9:52pm

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JayJai said:

I personally believe abortions are a no no no! but with some exceptions.
What situations do u believe it is "ok" for one to have an abortion?
I'll start: according to my friend's doctor, she needs to have an abortion because she has a bladder stone. She's already starting to have pain from the weight of the embryo pressing against the bladder. The doc said she can't treat it (the bladder stone) while pregnant cause it's risky for the embryo and if not treated, she'll be at health risk as the embryo continues growing.
Wat do u say to this orgers?
In this case...yay or nay to the abortion?


That is so sad. I know there are natural products that eliminate stones in one day. Lemon juice and olive oil,is one method if I am not mistaken. I would try everything available first, that would not harm my baby, before I would ever let them take my baby! Obviously, I would talk to my Doctor about it first. In addition, I would seek a second opinion, such as a specialist in urology or naturopathy.

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Reply #19 posted 03/01/09 11:04pm

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shellyann said:

JayJai said:

I personally believe abortions are a no no no! but with some exceptions.
What situations do u believe it is "ok" for one to have an abortion?
I'll start: according to my friend's doctor, she needs to have an abortion because she has a bladder stone. She's already starting to have pain from the weight of the embryo pressing against the bladder. The doc said she can't treat it (the bladder stone) while pregnant cause it's risky for the embryo and if not treated, she'll be at health risk as the embryo continues growing.
Wat do u say to this orgers?
In this case...yay or nay to the abortion?


That is so sad. I know there are natural products that eliminate stones in one day. Lemon juice and olive oil,is one method if I am not mistaken. I would try everything available first, that would not harm my baby, before I would ever let them take my baby! Obviously, I would talk to my Doctor about it first. In addition, I would seek a second opinion, such as a specialist in urology or naturopathy.


I think a bladder stone is different from a kidney stone.
I've had kidney stones and they can be incredibly painful.
But a bladder stone could kill mother and child . . . .

I wouldn't want my wife or girlfriend taking the risk.
We'll just have to get you preggers again!
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A bladder stone, is a kidney stone that has entered the bladder. It is actually further along in the "process" of being eliminated. I am not sure if that is more dangerous, but either way, second opinions here I come.

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Reply #21 posted 03/01/09 11:23pm

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shellyann said:

A bladder stone, is a kidney stone that has entered the bladder. It is actually further along in the "process" of being eliminated. I am not sure if that is more dangerous, but either way, second opinions here I come.


I agree with the second opinion but in this case, I don't see how the scenario changes. I wouldn't risk it.

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Reply #22 posted 03/01/09 11:58pm

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Is march like abortion month or something on here?

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Reply #23 posted 03/02/09 12:10am

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Is march like abortion month or something on here?

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Reply #24 posted 03/02/09 4:13am

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SUPRMAN said:

MoniGram said:

As for my thoughts on abortion, I feel it should NEVER be used as a form of birth control unless....there was incest, medical conditions, or rape involved. I don't feel being to young (teenage sex) is an option, there is always adoption in cases like that.


Those aren't cases of abortion being used as birth control.
Also in the case of the nine year old, she'll probably die in childbirth,if the babies survive, they'll probably be . . . ?



I know this..read my post again!! I put UNLESS, meaning if rape, medical conditions or incest is involved!! And once again..with the little girl it's incest!

I don't feel I can make my post any more clear!!!!

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Reply #25 posted 03/02/09 5:54am

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SUPRMAN said:

shellyann said:



That is so sad. I know there are natural products that eliminate stones in one day. Lemon juice and olive oil,is one method if I am not mistaken. I would try everything available first, that would not harm my baby, before I would ever let them take my baby! Obviously, I would talk to my Doctor about it first. In addition, I would seek a second opinion, such as a specialist in urology or naturopathy.


I think a bladder stone is different from a kidney stone.
I've had kidney stones and they can be incredibly painful.
But a bladder stone could kill mother and child . . . .

I wouldn't want my wife or girlfriend taking the risk.
We'll just have to get you preggers again!
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JayJai said:

What situations do u believe it is "ok" for one to have an abortion?

When the woman who is pregnant decides that that's what she wants/needs to do.

In this case...yay or nay to the abortion?

I'd say it's her call, not mine. I can't say what I'd do in that circumstance

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Reply #27 posted 03/02/09 6:25am

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JayJai said:

What situations do u believe it is "ok" for one to have an abortion?

When the woman who is pregnant decides that that's what she wants/needs to do.

In this case...yay or nay to the abortion?

I'd say it's her call, not mine. I can't say what I'd do in that circumstance


nod and there it is.

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Reply #28 posted 03/02/09 6:33am

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JayJai said:

What situations do u believe it is "ok" for one to have an abortion?

When the woman who is pregnant decides that that's what she wants/needs to do.

In this case...yay or nay to the abortion?

I'd say it's her call, not mine. I can't say what I'd do in that circumstance



The answer to this, and any and all other abortion threads. End of..

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Reply #29 posted 03/02/09 7:17am

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JayJai said:

What situations do u believe it is "ok" for one to have an abortion?

When the woman who is pregnant decides that that's what she wants/needs to do.

In this case...yay or nay to the abortion?

I'd say it's her call, not mine. I can't say what I'd do in that circumstance


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