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Charles Barkley Calls His Alma Mater Racist Not too long ago we reported on a study on the lack of Black coaches in NCAA Division I football. And with the hiring of white coach Gene Chizik over Black coach Turner Gill as football coach at Auburn University it looks like the trend will continue. The hiring has people turning their heads because of Chizik's win/loss record, winning only five games in two seasons at Iowa State. Gill on the other hand took control of the Buffalo Bulls, one of the worst programs in three years ago, and guided them to an 8-5 record and MAC Championship this season. Charles Barkley, who played basketball for Auburn, called out his alma mater for the Chizik hiring in an interview with ESPN.
"I think race was the No. 1 factor," Barkley told ESPN.com. "You can say it's not about race, but you can't compare the two résumés and say [Chizik] deserved the job. Out of all the coaches they interviewed, Chizik probably had the worst résumé. I'm just very disappointed. I just thought Turner Gill would be the perfect choice for two reasons: He's a terrific coach and we needed to make a splash. I thought we had to do something spectacular to bring attention to the program. Clearly, if we'd hired a black coach, it would have created a buzz." Auburn athletic director Jay Jacobs responded to Barkley's comments saying, "Well, my reaction is I was picking the best fit for Auburn." Apparently Barkley faced a similar situation when he was on the coach search committee for Auburn's basketball team. He told Auburn that he would serve on the committee if the university was ready to hire a Black coach. According to ESPN, Barkley presented three African-American candidates for consideration: former Indiana coach Mike Davis, then-Virginia Commonwealth coach Jeff Capel and then-UAB coach Mike Anderson. Instead, Auburn hired white coach Jeff Lebo, and Barkley was removed from the committee. "Out of all the basketball coaches they interviewed, they picked the only one who hadn't been to the NCAA tournament," Barkley said. I don't always agree with Bark, but I think this time he came correct. But the practice of hiring an underqualified White over a qualified Black is about as commonplace as it gets in America. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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I know how a story can skew events and quotes, but it certainly seems like Chuck was only interested in black coaches and wanted one to "create a buzz".
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Not if it's to improve recruiting. That is part of a coach's job. | |
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SUPRMAN said: Why is that news?
People call people racist in here all the time.  Uh...What? It's news because IT'S NEWS.  nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Mars23 said: I know how a story can skew events and quotes, but it certainly seems like Chuck was only interested in black coaches and wanted one to "create a buzz".
Doesn't that seem like the wrong reason as well? Well, Chuck is Black, so he'd of course would like to see more Black coaches. I mean, 4 Black coaches out of 119 schools? That's ridiculous. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Mars23 said: I know how a story can skew events and quotes, but it certainly seems like Chuck was only interested in black coaches and wanted one to "create a buzz".
Doesn't that seem like the wrong reason as well? Well, Chuck is Black, so he'd of course would like to see more Black coaches. I mean, 4 Black coaches out of 119 schools? That's ridiculous. that is beyond ridiculous.. and also .. Apparently Barkley faced a similar situation when he was on the coach search committee for Auburn's basketball team. He told Auburn that he would serve on the committee if the university was ready to hire a Black coach. According to ESPN, Barkley presented three African-American candidates for consideration: former Indiana coach Mike Davis, then-Virginia Commonwealth coach Jeff Capel and then-UAB coach Mike Anderson. Instead, Auburn hired white coach Jeff Lebo, and Barkley was removed from the committee.
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Auburn athletic director Jay Jacobs responded to Barkley's comments saying, "Well, my reaction is I was picking the best fit for Auburn."
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SUPRMAN said: Why is that news?
People call people racist in here all the time. Because Alabama is a state with too many racist overtones behind the scenes. That's why. Tupac "Makaveli" Shakur (RIP 1971-1996) & Michael Jackson (RIP 1958-2009)
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MuthaFunka said: Mars23 said: I know how a story can skew events and quotes, but it certainly seems like Chuck was only interested in black coaches and wanted one to "create a buzz".
Doesn't that seem like the wrong reason as well? Well, Chuck is Black, so he'd of course would like to see more Black coaches. I mean, 4 Black coaches out of 119 schools? That's ridiculous. Well I know bugger all about the sports involved, so I can't comment on who is best for the job etc. Although there's more than a whiff of racism here, I have to ask why being black means you want black coaches. Surely what you want is for race not to be an issue when the candicates are selected. If that means 100% white coaches if they are the best candidates, so be it. 100% black, same thing... "It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him"
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MuthaFunka said: Mars23 said: I know how a story can skew events and quotes, but it certainly seems like Chuck was only interested in black coaches and wanted one to "create a buzz".
Doesn't that seem like the wrong reason as well? Well, Chuck is Black, so he'd of course would like to see more Black coaches. I mean, 4 Black coaches out of 119 schools? That's ridiculous. It is ridiculous. You have black basketball players with actual, playing experience and knowledge of the specifics of basketball. They should qualify as coaches as well. Have many of these white coaches have experience playing basketball or being on a team, as well as having the experience of coaching? School me, since I don't know the managing specifics of the game. Also, it is worthy news, especially coming from a well-known, experienced, veteran basketball player like Charles Barkley, who apparently knows there is something wrong when many, qualified blacks are passed over to be coaches. Education, the greatest weapon
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Graycap23 said: The more things changed.....the more they remain the same.
Colonized Mind.  ...and that's only if you remain silent and do absolutely nothing to change any situation.[Edited 12/19/08 8:11am] Education, the greatest weapon
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2elijah said: Graycap23 said: The more things changed.....the more they remain the same.
Colonized Mind. ...ant that's only if you remain silent and do absolutely nothing to change any situation.No doubt. The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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Graycap23 said: 2elijah said: ...ant that's only if you remain silent and do absolutely nothing to change any situation.No doubt. I'm glad Charles spoke out about it. Kudos to him. Nothing worse than a coward with no spine. It seems some people are comfortable with "just keep quiet if no one else notices." [Edited 12/19/08 8:24am] Education, the greatest weapon
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2elijah said: Graycap23 said: No doubt. I'm glad Charles spoke out about it. Kudos to him. Nothing worse than a coward with no spine. It seems some people are comfortable with "just keep quiet if no one else notices." [Edited 12/19/08 8:24am] Jordan.....comes 2 mind. The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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2elijah said: Graycap23 said: No doubt. I'm glad Charles spoke out about it. Kudos to him. Nothing worse than a coward with no spine. It seems some people are comfortable with "just keep quiet if no one else notices." [Edited 12/19/08 8:24am] Amen. I was glad that a few coaches in the NFL (Mike Tomlin Steelers, Tony Dungy), NBA (Reggie Theus and P.J.) agreed with Charles on this issue. There has to be something done in order to correct this problem with the lack of black coaches in college football. Also, Mike Tomlin brought up an interesting point that has never been looked at before, or maybe it has. He mentioned that the ADs and school president's are not the only deciding factors in the hiring process, there are alumni, boosters, and other people who never come to the interviewing session, but they are always throwing their weight around to force the ADs and presidents to hire this person or that person, and the interviewee never gets a chance to address those outside people. So until those outside people (alumni and boosters) are addressed, this issue will never get resolved. “When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.” Brazilian bishop Dom Hélder Câmara | |
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JellyBean said: 2elijah said: I'm glad Charles spoke out about it. Kudos to him. Nothing worse than a coward with no spine. It seems some people are comfortable with "just keep quiet if no one else notices." [Edited 12/19/08 8:24am] Amen. I was glad that a few coaches in the NFL (Mike Tomlin Steelers, Tony Dungy), NBA (Reggie Theus and P.J.) agreed with Charles on this issue. There has to be something done in order to correct this problem with the lack of black coaches in college football. Also, Mike Tomlin brought up an interesting point that has never been looked at before, or maybe it has. He mentioned that the ADs and school president's are not the only deciding factors in the hiring process, there are alumni, boosters, and other people who never come to the interviewing session, but they are always throwing their weight around to force the ADs and presidents to hire this person or that person, and the interviewee never gets a chance to address those outside people. So until those outside people (alumni and boosters) are addressed, this issue will never get resolved. Good point. What is the point of interviewing with anyone who is NOT the decision maker?.... The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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razor said: MuthaFunka said: Well, Chuck is Black, so he'd of course would like to see more Black coaches. I mean, 4 Black coaches out of 119 schools? That's ridiculous. Well I know bugger all about the sports involved, so I can't comment on who is best for the job etc. Although there's more than a whiff of racism here, I have to ask why being black means you want black coaches. Surely what you want is for race not to be an issue when the candicates are selected. If that means 100% white coaches if they are the best candidates, so be it. 100% black, same thing... This is easy to answer: Because there's a history of racism in America. And the article tells you the coach that got hired had a much worse record than the Black coaching candidate. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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2elijah said: MuthaFunka said: Well, Chuck is Black, so he'd of course would like to see more Black coaches. I mean, 4 Black coaches out of 119 schools? That's ridiculous. It is ridiculous. You have black basketball players with actual, playing experience and knowledge of the specifics of basketball. They should qualify as coaches as well. Have many of these white coaches have experience playing basketball or being on a team, as well as having the experience of coaching? School me, since I don't know the managing specifics of the game. Also, it is worthy news, especially coming from a well-known, experienced, veteran basketball player like Charles Barkley, who apparently knows there is something wrong when many, qualified blacks are passed over to be coaches. Exactly. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Mars23 said: I know how a story can skew events and quotes, but it certainly seems like Chuck was only interested in black coaches and wanted one to "create a buzz".
Doesn't that seem like the wrong reason as well? Actually that's not true. I saw him on ESPN Monday and Bob Costas' show on Wednesday and he's been very clear: If Auburn had selected a white coach with a better record than Chizik or the black coach he would have ZERO problem with their decision because the best candidate would have gotten the job. His point here is that the dude they did hire has a losing record, 5-19 I believe, and hasn't won a road game in two years. So how is he the best man for the job???  [Edited 12/19/08 9:48am] You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince 
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razor said: MuthaFunka said: Well, Chuck is Black, so he'd of course would like to see more Black coaches. I mean, 4 Black coaches out of 119 schools? That's ridiculous. Well I know bugger all about the sports involved, so I can't comment on who is best for the job etc. Although there's more than a whiff of racism here, I have to ask why being black means you want black coaches. Surely what you want is for race not to be an issue when the candicates are selected. If that means 100% white coaches if they are the best candidates, so be it. 100% black, same thing... Because 90% of players are black and black coaches theoretically have an easier time walking into a black home, communicating with a potential player's family, thereby increasing his chances of recruiting the best players in the country. You don't need directions and you don't need cash. From your Jimmy Choos to your Ultralash. ~ Prince
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Interesting that this topic came up. Georgia State fired the first black female Athletics Director (not working at a non-historically black college or university) today. Her name is Mary McElroy. The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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TonyVanDam said: SUPRMAN said: Why is that news?
People call people racist in here all the time. Because Alabama is a state with too many racist overtones behind the scenes. That's why. And finally exposing it will shame them into changing. . . . | |
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JellyBean said: 2elijah said: I'm glad Charles spoke out about it. Kudos to him. Nothing worse than a coward with no spine. It seems some people are comfortable with "just keep quiet if no one else notices." [Edited 12/19/08 8:24am] Amen. I was glad that a few coaches in the NFL (Mike Tomlin Steelers, Tony Dungy), NBA (Reggie Theus and P.J.) agreed with Charles on this issue. There has to be something done in order to correct this problem with the lack of black coaches in college football. Also, Mike Tomlin brought up an interesting point that has never been looked at before, or maybe it has. He mentioned that the ADs and school president's are not the only deciding factors in the hiring process, there are alumni, boosters, and other people who never come to the interviewing session, but they are always throwing their weight around to force the ADs and presidents to hire this person or that person, and the interviewee never gets a chance to address those outside people. So until those outside people (alumni and boosters) are addressed, this issue will never get resolved. Yes and they vote with their dollars so don't expect their influence to decline. For some of them, they don't to see a black coach at their school. You don't have black alumni who are as involved or able to compete with donation to affect the selection. Schools are still clubs . . . . | |
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MuthaFunka said: razor said: Well I know bugger all about the sports involved, so I can't comment on who is best for the job etc. Although there's more than a whiff of racism here, I have to ask why being black means you want black coaches. Surely what you want is for race not to be an issue when the candicates are selected. If that means 100% white coaches if they are the best candidates, so be it. 100% black, same thing... This is easy to answer: Because there's a history of racism in America. And the article tells you the coach that got hired had a much worse record than the Black coaching candidate. Yes, I agree that this action appears racist. That does not imply that the desired outcome is more black coaches. The desired outcome is that the best man for the job gets the job. If that meant 100& white coaches, fine. 100% black fine. The goal is for race not to be an issue.. "It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him"
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SCNDLS said: razor said: Well I know bugger all about the sports involved, so I can't comment on who is best for the job etc. Although there's more than a whiff of racism here, I have to ask why being black means you want black coaches. Surely what you want is for race not to be an issue when the candicates are selected. If that means 100% white coaches if they are the best candidates, so be it. 100% black, same thing... Because 90% of players are black and black coaches theoretically have an easier time walking into a black home, communicating with a potential player's family, thereby increasing his chances of recruiting the best players in the country. What, so only black people can communicate with black people when it comes to business transactions? please  "It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him"
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razor said: . The goal is for race not to be an issue..
Has that GOAL been met? The TRUTH.......only exist in 1 form.
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Graycap23 said: razor said: . The goal is for race not to be an issue..
Has that GOAL been met? Nope. And it won't whilst there are racists on both sides. In this instance it appears that the black guy should have got the job (I have no idea about the sport), but those on that black side of the agrument need to be careful how they phrase their arguments if they want to gain maximum impact. The goal is for race not to be an issue, nothing more. "It is an established maxim and moral that he who makes an assertion without knowing whether it is true or false is guilty of falsehood, and the accidental truth of the assertion does not justify or excuse him"
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razor said: MuthaFunka said: This is easy to answer: Because there's a history of racism in America. And the article tells you the coach that got hired had a much worse record than the Black coaching candidate. Yes, I agree that this action appears racist. That does not imply that the desired outcome is more black coaches. The desired outcome is that the best man for the job gets the job. If that meant 100& white coaches, fine. 100% black fine. The goal is for race not to be an issue.. For YOURSELF that may not be the desired outcome, but for most Blacks it is. That's the whole point. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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