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Shoe thrower 'beaten in custody'

Shoe thrower 'beaten in custody'
Shoes thrown at George Bush
Muntadar al-Zaidi was wrestled to the ground and dragged away

The brother of the Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at US President George W Bush has said that the reporter has been beaten in custody.

Muntadar al-Zaidi has suffered a broken hand, broken ribs and internal bleeding, as well as an eye injury, his older brother, Dargham, told the BBC.

Mr Zaidi threw his shoes at Mr Bush at a news conference, calling him "a dog".

The head of Iraq's journalists' union told the BBC that officials told him Mr Zaidi was being treated well.

The union head, Mouyyad al-Lami, said he hoped to visit his colleague later.

An Iraqi official said Mr Zaidi had been handed over to the judicial authorities, according to the AFP news agency.

Earlier, Dargham al-Zaidi told the BBC's Caroline Wyatt in Baghdad he believed his brother had been taken to a US military hospital in the Iraqi capital.

A second day of rallies in support of Mr Zaidi have been held across Iraq, calling for his release.

Meanwhile, offers to buy the shoes are being made around the Arab world, reports say.

Hero figure

Mr Zaidi told our correspondent that despite offers from many lawyers his brother has not been given access to a legal representative since being arrested by forces under the command of Mowaffaq al-Rubaie, Iraq's national security adviser.


We hope the government and judiciary consider his release because he has a family and he is still young
Mouyyad al-Lami, Iraqi journalists' union

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The Iraqi authorities have said the 28-year-old will be prosecuted under Iraqi law, although it is not yet clear what the charges might be.

Iraqi lawyers have speculated that he could face charges of insulting a foreign leader and the Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri Maliki, who was standing next to President Bush during the incident. The offence carries a maximum penalty of two years in jail.

Our correspondent says that the previously little-known journalist from the private Cairo-based al-Baghdadia TV has become a hero to many, not just in Iraq but across the Arab world, for what many saw as a fitting send-off for a deeply unpopular US president.

As he flung the shoes, Mr Zaidi shouted: "This is a goodbye kiss from the Iraqi people, dog."

Dargham al-Zaidi told the BBC that his brother deliberately bought Iraqi-made shoes, which were dark brown with laces. They were bought from a shop on al-Khyam street, a well-known shopping street in central Baghdad.

However, not everyone in Iraq has been supportive of the journalist's action.

Speaking earlier in Baghdad, Mouyyad al-Lami described Mr Zaidi's action as "strange and unprofessional", but urged Mr Maliki to show compassion.

"Even if he has made a mistake, the government and the judiciary are broad-minded and we hope they consider his release because he has a family and he is still young," he told the Associated Press news agency.

"We hope this case ends before going to court."

Abducted by insurgents

The shoes themselves are said to have attracted bids from around the Arab world.

According to unconfirmed newspaper reports, the former coach of the Iraqi national football team, Adnan Hamad, has offered $100,000 (£65,000) for the shoes, while a Saudi citizen has apparently offered $10m (£6.5m).

Muntadar al-Zaidi (file image)
Mr Zaidi said his actions were for Iraqi widows and orphans
The daughter of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, Aicha, said her charity would honour the reporter with a medal of courage, saying his action was a "victory for human rights".

The charity called on the media to support Mr Zaidi and put pressure on the Iraqi government to free him.

Mr Zaidi, who lives in Baghdad, has worked for al-Baghdadia for three years.

Muzhir al-Khafaji, programming director for the channel, described him as a "proud Arab and an open-minded man".

He said that Mr Zaidi was a graduate of communications from Baghdad University.

"He has no ties with the former regime. His family was arrested under Saddam's regime," he said.

Mr Zaidi has previously been abducted by insurgents and held twice for questioning by US forces in Iraq.

In November 2007 he was kidnapped by a gang on his way to work in central Baghdad and released three days later without a ransom.

He said at the time that the kidnappers had beaten him until he lost consciousness, and used his necktie to blindfold him.

Mr Zaidi never learned the identity of his kidnappers, who questioned him about his work before letting him go.

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Reply #1 posted 12/16/08 8:50am

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I wanna see photos and a medical report.

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Reply #2 posted 12/16/08 8:59am

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FU2 said:

I wanna see photos and a medical report.


We all know your curiosity is not out of concern for this man's well being. So the question is...why do you want to see photos and a medical report?

Of course, I'm a Liberal! I'm an American, damn it!

This country was founded on the premise of Liberty and Justice for ALL...remember?


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Reply #3 posted 12/16/08 9:01am

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

FU2 said:

I wanna see photos and a medical report.


We all know your curiosity is not out of concern for this man's well being. So the question is...why do you want to see photos and a medical report?


To see the truth.

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Reply #4 posted 12/16/08 9:06am

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americans, each and every one, should mail shoes to george w. bush and his administration, care of the white house nod

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Reply #5 posted 12/16/08 9:12am

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FU2 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



We all know your curiosity is not out of concern for this man's well being. So the question is...why do you want to see photos and a medical report?


To see the truth.


Again, I have to ask...why?

Of course, I'm a Liberal! I'm an American, damn it!

This country was founded on the premise of Liberty and Justice for ALL...remember?


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Reply #6 posted 12/16/08 9:13am

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What do they think beating him up will change? George will always be remembered for getting his ass kicked by a shoe thrower who tried to knock some sense into his dumb ass.

That shoe thrower will always be my hero." The first shoe is for all the soldiers that died at the hands of George and Dick Cheney's greed

The second is for the lies and BS he told the American people as to why American soldiers were sent to Iraq in the first place.
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Reply #7 posted 12/16/08 9:15am

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FU2 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



We all know your curiosity is not out of concern for this man's well being. So the question is...why do you want to see photos and a medical report?


To see the truth.


Cool, could you come up with some video/audio of the people you spoke to in the "middle east" supporting your claims about the reasons they like Obama?

Thanks in advance thumbs up!

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Reply #8 posted 12/16/08 9:22am

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mdiver said:

FU2 said:



To see the truth.


Cool, could you come up with some video/audio of the people you spoke to in the "middle east" supporting your claims about the reasons they like Obama?

Thanks in advance thumbs up!


Why would I conduct video interviews on my vacation?

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Reply #9 posted 12/16/08 9:23am

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FU2 said:

mdiver said:



Cool, could you come up with some video/audio of the people you spoke to in the "middle east" supporting your claims about the reasons they like Obama?

Thanks in advance thumbs up!


Why would I conduct video interviews on my vacation?


So we could see the truth

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Reply #10 posted 12/16/08 9:24am

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mdiver said:

FU2 said:



Why would I conduct video interviews on my vacation?


So we could see the truth


You could pay me a salary and I could go back to conduct interviews.

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Reply #11 posted 12/16/08 9:24am

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Wouldn't surprise me if they brought George in for a few personal whacks.

Sounds like something he would get off on.

This is untoward! This is not toward!
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Reply #12 posted 12/16/08 9:25am

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mdiver said:



So we could see the truth


You could pay me a salary and I could go back to conduct interviews.


Nah, i like brains in my employees.

Just interesting to see how you want everyone else to provide you with "proof" but when challenged on your assertions it is "if you dont like it move on"

Says a huge amount

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Reply #13 posted 12/16/08 9:25am

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Mars23 said:

Wouldn't surprise me if they brought George in for a few personal whacks.
Sounds like something he would get off on.


Or his CIA agents.

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Reply #14 posted 12/16/08 9:29am

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mdiver said:

FU2 said:



You could pay me a salary and I could go back to conduct interviews.


Nah, i like brains in my employees.


Please say that to my face someday.

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Reply #15 posted 12/16/08 9:32am

mdiver

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mdiver said:



Nah, i like brains in my employees.


Please say that to my face someday.


Anytime, feel free to jog on over sonny


You think an alter troll is gonna frighten me? falloff

If you had the balls to be yourself here that would be a start in the credibility stakes, but to try and intimidate someone when you don't have the minerals to be your primary here? Don't make me laugh
[Edited 12/16/08 9:35am]

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Reply #16 posted 12/16/08 9:37am

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FU2 said:

mdiver said:



Cool, could you come up with some video/audio of the people you spoke to in the "middle east" supporting your claims about the reasons they like Obama?

Thanks in advance thumbs up!


Why would I conduct video interviews on my vacation?



why would you outta all the ppl go to middle east on vacation

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Reply #17 posted 12/16/08 9:38am

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Bush deserves a lot more stuff thrown at him than just shoes.

His foreign policies suck.

Invading Iraq was more of a personal vendetta then political. twocents
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Reply #18 posted 12/16/08 9:55am

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asg said:

FU2 said:



Why would I conduct video interviews on my vacation?



why would you outta all the ppl go to middle east on vacation


Why wouldn't I?

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Reply #19 posted 12/16/08 9:58am

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FU2 said:

asg said:




why would you outta all the ppl go to middle east on vacation


Why wouldn't I?


did they throw some shoes on u
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Reply #20 posted 12/16/08 10:04am

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asg said:

FU2 said:



Why wouldn't I?


did they throw some shoes on u

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falloff falloff
[Edited 12/16/08 10:14am]

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Reply #21 posted 12/16/08 10:04am

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asg said:

FU2 said:



Why wouldn't I?


did they throw some shoes on u
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No. They were very welcoming. Without Americans, their economy would crumble. The real question is do they like Americans or just our money? I got some mixed feelings on that.

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Reply #22 posted 12/16/08 10:14am

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FU2 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



We all know your curiosity is not out of concern for this man's well being. So the question is...why do you want to see photos and a medical report?


To see the truth.

To fulfill right wing pathological need for abuse, blood and death is more like it.

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Reply #23 posted 12/16/08 10:15am

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mdiver said:

FU2 said:



Please say that to my face someday.


Anytime, feel free to jog on over sonny


You think an alter troll is gonna frighten me? falloff

If you had the balls to be yourself here that would be a start in the credibility stakes, but to try and intimidate someone when you don't have the minerals to be your primary here? Don't make me laugh
[Edited 12/16/08 9:35am]


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Reply #24 posted 12/16/08 10:17am

2elijah





[Edited 12/16/08 10:36am]

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Reply #25 posted 12/16/08 10:26am

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FU2 said:

asg said:



did they throw some shoes on u
[Edited 12/16/08 10:00am]


No. They were very welcoming. Without Americans, their economy would crumble. The real question is do they like Americans or just our money? I got some mixed feelings on that.



With Americans there your own economy is fucked falloff I really can't stop laughing at the shit you are spewing falloff Arrogance at it's height
[Edited 12/16/08 11:04am]

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Reply #26 posted 12/16/08 11:03am

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sadly, this is not suprising

"passing strange"... experience the real
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Reply #27 posted 12/16/08 11:09am

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mdiver said:

FU2 said:



No. They were very welcoming. Without Americans, their economy would crumble. The real question is do they like Americans or just our money? I got some mixed feelings on that.



With Americans there your own economy is fucked falloff I really can't stop laughing at the shit you are spewing falloff Arrogance at it's height
[Edited 12/16/08 11:04am]


Yeah, great argument.

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Reply #28 posted 12/16/08 11:12am

mdiver

FU2 said:

mdiver said:




With Americans there your own economy is fucked falloff I really can't stop laughing at the shit you are spewing falloff Arrogance at it's height
[Edited 12/16/08 11:04am]


Yeah, great argument.


There is NO need to argue with you, your points are basically Fox news, it just makes me laugh that you believe the WHOLE world relies on American money when one of the countries that pwns your asses in debt is communist and the other 2 have smaller and yet more stable economies. You just swallow everything Fox spew huh?

Sad

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Reply #29 posted 12/16/08 11:16am

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mdiver said:

FU2 said:



Yeah, great argument.


There is NO need to argue with you, your points are basically Fox news, it just makes me laugh that you believe the WHOLE world relies on American money when one of the countries that pwns your asses in debt is communist and the other 2 have smaller and yet more stable economies. You just swallow everything Fox spew huh?

Sad


This is the difference. I've visited foreign countries and have spoken to locals. What does FOX News have to do with that?

Do you know how strict the laws are in Egypt in regard to hurting Americans? They can be thrown into prison, beaten, maybe even killed. We give about 50 billion in aid per year, and our tourism keeps their cities going. This is what residents told me, not FOX News.

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