Should we be truly afraid?

Obama needs to speak on this tonight.

That was painful to watch, its one thing to think about this happening , but its quite another to actually see the hate being openly expressed with zeal. We still have so much more work to do, so much more hatred to overcome. These people are angry at Obama and fear what he can potentially bring to the table, equality, and respect for black people.

I think it is ridiculous that Senator Obama even has to go through this nonsense. Never in the history of an election have I seen a candidate have to be forced to explain himself this much to prove his credibility. Not to say that anyone running for President shouldn't, but this is by far has gone way too far. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out, and I believe those voters who do not want to vote for Obama, is using the Ayers excuse and the so-called muslim thing as a cover-up, and to save themselves from being embarassed to say they don't want to vote for him because he is a Black Man. I am convinced about that now. What surprises me is some of these Americans act like this country has never been guilty of all the atrocities they "allowed" to happen and still in denial about it, but point to Senator Obama as though he is the devil and blames him for everyone else's thoughts and actions they find undesirable.

I bet they blame him for the muslim religion existing as well. A bunch of ignorant, deep-down, sick and demented racists that are part of the reason this country "will sink" eventually. I praise those Americans that have a heart and soul to look beyond judging someone's intelligence and credibility on their skin color.


Racists are afraid of "compassion" for the human race as a whole, that's basically what that fear is. That a part of the humanity within their soul may be exposed because it's been filled with hate/evil and ignorance for so long, that they don't know what it actually feels like to have compassion for a race outside of their own, who is also part of the human race. They convince themselves they are a part of a superior race that does not exist to feed their insecure egos. When it comes down to "truth" they will eventually find out they are no better or above the guy standing right next to them.

Sounds pretty much like they are afraid of being human if you ask me. I mean when you think about it, how stupid is it to hate someone because of their skin color, as though any of us have a choice of what skin color we choose to be born with?



Yes...I'm ranting because I am so sick and tired of all this BS.
[Edited 10/15/08 12:35pm]

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BARACK OBAMA, FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!! Get used to it HATERS!!

i think these people have been led astray by virtue of the fact of obama's association with ayres. ayres really was a domestic terrorist, back in the day.

considering ayres' connection to weather underground, it isn't that far a stretch to call ayres a 'terrorist'. some of those folks in the clip look.. older, which means they were probably around to read about weather underground during its violent days and its "declaration of war" against the United States.

but i don't think obama was really even old enough to participate in that movement, or take part in any of the bombings since that was circa 1969 and 1970. thereabouts.

i do hope obama has a chance to address this tonight since a lot of people have heard about ayres and his history
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XxAxX said:

Yes...it's much scarier to actually see it as opposed to just reading a news article.

What's that saying? “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men and women to do nothing.” I think about all the people at these rallies...all the people who watched the guy with the monkey, and walked by him without saying a word. The ignorance...I bow my head in shame.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

XxAxX said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

2elijah said:

I think it is ridiculous that Senator Obama even has to go through this nonsense. Never in the history of an election have I seen a candidate have to be forced to explain himself this much to prove his credibility. Not to say that anyone running for President shouldn't, but this is by far has gone way too far. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out, and I believe those voters who do not want to vote for Obama, is using the Ayers excuse and the so-called muslim thing as a cover-up.

Racists are afraid of "compassion" for the human race as a whole, that's basically what that fear is. That a part of the humanity within their soul may be exposed because it's been filled with hate/evil and ignorance for so long, that they don't know what it actually feels like to have compassion for a race outside of their own, who is also part of the human race. They convince themselves they are a part of a superior race that does not exist to feed their insecure egos. When it comes down to "truth" they will eventually find out they are no better or above the guy standing right next to them.

Sounds pretty much like they are afraid of being human if you ask me. I mean when you think about it, how stupid is it to hate someone because of their skin color, as though any of us have a choice of what skin color we choose to be born with?
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XxAxX said:

Sarah Palin declared, "This is someone who sees America as imperfect enough to pal around with terrorists who targeted their own country."

The New York Times article, which prompted Palin's remarks, actually concluded that "the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers."

CNN Political Ticker evaluated Palin's "palling" charges and concluded, "False. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now palling around, or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are....CNN's review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the volunteer projects in which the two men were involved."


The adult Obama served on a board that Ayres headed and attended an event for another politician in Ayres' home. William Ayres and his wife, Bernhadine Dorn, another former member of the Weather Underground, apparently were rehabilitated. They are not fugitives. They are currently law abiding citizens who have the same rights as anybody else. And Ayres is currently a respected Chicago educator. None of that makes his past actions acceptable. It just means people change.

It also means that any one of us could brush up against somebody who ran afoul of the law and committed heinous deeds in the past but who has changed. It might even be a co-worker or neighbor. And if we befriended that person today, we would be no more guilty of condoning their past actions than Obama is in this instance. Bill Ayres became a respected professor, and the word is that he was named Most Distinguished Citizen in Chicago at one point, so it would be hard to avoid any association with the man.

Ayer's case was thrown out, along with many others, because the evidence supplied came from the governments infamous "cointelpro" operation to discredit anti-war organizations (an operation which Vp Cheney and others wanted to restart during the Iraq invasion). As part of this, the government falsified documents, performed illegal searches and wiretaps, and used "agents provocateurs" to spur antiwar organizations to violent or extreme acts, including the Weather Underground.

After nearly 10 years on the run, Mr. Ayres turned himself in and faced trial, but the government's evidence was deemed so tainted and the government itself so implicated in some of cointelpro's actions that the case was thrown out. No one in the federal government deemed Mr. Ayres enough of a threat to persue the case further.

During this period of time, Senator Obama was a child, partly living on the other side of the planet. He has never voiced any agreement with Mr Ayres actions or philosophy. Both Mr. McCain and Ms Palin have similar associations of a shady nature. Mr. McCain with organizations assisting violent rebels and in some cases death squads in central America, Ms. Palin with groups attempting to secede the entire state of Alaska from the union, both far more recent, more angry, and more questionable than the aims of the educational reform nonprofits participated in by Mr. Ayres and Mr. Obama.

Everybody prominent has six degrees of separation from somebody they'd likely be embarrassed about knowing.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

XxAxX said:

dude, *I* don't have to be serious about this. and i am not defending the use of this issue by mcpain and failin. i am responding to the YouTube clip.

this issue is all over the news. this has been the subject of a lot of discussion, and is something obama needs to address, in a big way. he has been linked to ayres, and ayres' history is well-documented.

OK. From that perspective I agree. I thought you were losing sleep at night In otherwords, put the shit to bed?

If Palin feels no one who should be elected to the Presidency who palled (sp?) around with domestic terrorists, as she put it, then we would have to go into America's history books and erase the Presidents that allowed domestic terrorism to happen when they were Presidents. She needs to check her history notes.
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2elijah said:

Collective ignorance is a powerful fomenting agent of hatred. The way in which reactionaries are able to cultivate a culture of sensationalist fear is remarkable and terrifying.

I am afraid if McCain/Palin wins, and there then Palin might become President!

This is not acceptable.


Also, I question whether McCain is really fit to be President, but I do not know. Palin scares me very much.

lascantas said:

I am afraid if McCain/Palin wins, and there then Palin might become President!

This is not acceptable.


Also, I question whether McCain is really fit to be President, but I do not know. Palin scares me very much.

XxAxX said:

http://prince.org/msg/15/286132


BARACK OBAMA, FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!! Get used to it HATERS!!

2elijah said:

XxAxX said:

http://prince.org/msg/15/286132


BARACK OBAMA, FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!! Get used to it HATERS!!

Afraid? No
Prepared? Yes.

some of our very own orgers refer to Obama as Barack Hussein Obama.

And we all heard it tonight. McCain is proud of his homies at his rallies!

noimageatall said:

And we all heard it tonight. McCain is proud of his homies at his rallies!

http://prince.org/msg/15/286132


BARACK OBAMA, FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!! Get used to it HATERS!!

2elijah said:

noimageatall said:

And we all heard it tonight. McCain is proud of his homies at his rallies!

Exactly, and kind of pushed his shoulders up with pride when he said that too, displaying his proud-ness (<--if that is such a term). I have a feeling he wishes he didn't put his foot in his mouth though. Wait until he watches himself on rewind and see his own expressions.

McCain creeped me out when he did that laugh near the end of the debate.