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cborgman

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secret papers reveal Bush administration gave nod for CIA waterboarding and other torture

WASHINGTON (AFP) — The administration of US President George W. Bush authorized the CIA to waterboard Al-Qaeda suspects according to two secret memos issued in 2003 and 2004, The Washington Post reported Wednesday.

The memos were issued at the request of intelligence officials who were "troubled that White House policymakers had never endorsed the program in writing," the newspaper said, citing four administration and intelligence officials familiar with the documents.

"The classified memos, which have not been previously disclosed, were requested by then-CIA Director George J. Tenet more than a year after the start of the secret interrogations," the Post said.

"Although Justice Department lawyers, beginning in 2002, had signed off on the agency's interrogation methods, senior CIA officials were troubled that White House policymakers had never endorsed the program in writing."

Tenet's first request for written approval by the White House came in 2003, during a meeting with National Security Council members including Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the paper quoted the unnamed officials as saying.

The first secret memo was issued shortly thereafter, "a brief memo conveying the administration's approval for the CIA's interrogation methods, the officials said."

Tenet made a second request in 2004 as revelations of abuse at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison came to light.

"Officials who held senior posts at the time also spoke of deteriorating relations between the CIA and the White House over the war in Iraq -- a rift that prompted some to believe that the agency needed even more explicit proof of the administration's support," the report said.

The newspaper said administration officials "confirmed the existence of the memos, but neither they nor former intelligence officers would describe their contents in detail because they remain classified."

The White House had no comment on the report, a spokesman told AFP.

Waterboarding, a staple of brutal interrogations from the Spanish Inquisition to Cambodia's Khmer Rouge regime, usually consists of strapping down a captive, covering his face with a cloth and pouring water onto the cloth to simulate drowning.

The Central Intelligence Agency has admitted using the technique on Al-Qaeda suspects including alleged September 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed following the 2001 attacks, at a time when further strikes on the United States were believed to be imminent.

Rights groups have decried the technique as torture.

The White House, which has not previously acknowledged it was aware of the specific techniques being used by interrogators, has said the United States does not currently use waterboarding, but that it would not rule out the use of such techniques in the future.

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Reply #1 posted 10/15/08 9:32am

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the full and much more detailed washington post story:

http://www.washingtonpost...03331.html

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Reply #2 posted 10/15/08 9:33am

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i hate that the bush administration will likely never be prosecuted for their many violations of law.

our country will be too busy focusing on this economic mess to give them what they deserve

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Reply #3 posted 10/15/08 9:34am

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XxAxX said:

i hate that the bush administration will likely never be prosecuted for their many violations of law.

our country will be too busy focusing on this economic mess to give them what they deserve


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Reply #4 posted 10/15/08 9:37am

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cborgman said:

XxAxX said:

i hate that the bush administration will likely never be prosecuted for their many violations of law.

our country will be too busy focusing on this economic mess to give them what they deserve


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while they make off with a ton of our money

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Reply #5 posted 10/15/08 9:47am

January202009

Bush/Mc Cain supporters do not care about any of this. To them, only America lives are important.
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Reply #6 posted 10/15/08 9:50am

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but the US has violated the geneva convention in so many ways we are bankrupt when it comes to credibility

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Reply #7 posted 10/15/08 10:20am

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January202009 said:

To them, only America lives are important.


How so? confuse

By engaging in torture like this, this administration is enflaming a large part of the world that is already predisposed to hate us, thus putting us in greater jeopardy for an attack of some sort.

So I don't follow your premise that American lives are somehow important to the Bushistas. confuse

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Reply #8 posted 10/15/08 10:24am

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January202009 said:

To them, only America lives are important.


How so? confuse

By engaging in torture like this, this administration is enflaming a large part of the world that is already predisposed to hate us, thus putting us in greater jeopardy for an attack of some sort.

So I don't follow your premise that American lives are somehow important to the Bushistas. confuse

smile


The neocons and Bushistas couldn't care less what the rest of the world thinks about us.

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Reply #9 posted 10/15/08 10:38am

January202009

RodeoSchro said:

2the9s said:



How so? confuse

By engaging in torture like this, this administration is enflaming a large part of the world that is already predisposed to hate us, thus putting us in greater jeopardy for an attack of some sort.

So I don't follow your premise that American lives are somehow important to the Bushistas. confuse

smile


The neocons and Bushistas couldn't care less what the rest of the world thinks about us.


That was going to be my answer. I receive emails all of the time from my republican aunt telling me not to buy anything made in China. Little does she know that China has helped the US financially. I have had discussions with Republicans on this site that say they could care less what other countries think of the US because the US is a super power that does not need anything from any other country. There are Republicans that think the US just helps other countries out of the kindness of their hearts. They do not see that the US only helps countries that have OIL.I have had discussions with ppl about the detainees that are in Guantanamo still awaiting a trail. Still there but have not been accused of any crimes. Held for years with no trial, after the pics of the abuse there, what has changed???

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Reply #10 posted 10/16/08 5:15am

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XxAxX said:

but the US has violated the geneva convention in so many ways we are bankrupt when it comes to credibility


Heck yeah. We have lost all credibility.

“Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservative.” John Stuart Mill
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