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CANADIAN ELECTION RESULTS

The Conservatives stab win another minority government with 143 seats.
The Liberals come in second, again as the Opposition, with 76 seats.
The Bloc Quebecois won 50 seats, the NDP won 37, and the Greens failed to win any seats at all this election.

So it's more or less the results I thought we'd have. I'm disappointed, but not surprised, with the results.

Thoughts, anyone?

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Reply #1 posted 10/15/08 1:25am

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meow85 said:

The Conservatives stab win another minority government with 143 seats.
The Liberals come in second, again as the Opposition, with 76 seats.
The Bloc Quebecois won 50 seats, the NDP won 37, and the Greens failed to win any seats at all this election.

So it's more or less the results I thought we'd have. I'm disappointed, but not surprised, with the results.

Thoughts, anyone?


A conservative minority is exactly what I was hoping for...

A party with real leadership is in power, but any out of control spending or social reform is held in check by an opposition that can take them down.

I am only disappointed by the strength of the Bloc. I also wish the Green won 2 or 3 seats. I voted for them, feeling more national support for them would ensure that the major parties put more focus on environmental issues.

I'm only in it for the music.
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Reply #2 posted 10/15/08 1:47am

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savoirfaire said:

meow85 said:

The Conservatives stab win another minority government with 143 seats.
The Liberals come in second, again as the Opposition, with 76 seats.
The Bloc Quebecois won 50 seats, the NDP won 37, and the Greens failed to win any seats at all this election.

So it's more or less the results I thought we'd have. I'm disappointed, but not surprised, with the results.

Thoughts, anyone?


A conservative minority is exactly what I was hoping for...

A party with real leadership is in power, but any out of control spending or social reform is held in check by an opposition that can take them down.

I am only disappointed by the strength of the Bloc. I also wish the Green won 2 or 3 seats. I voted for them, feeling more national support for them would ensure that the major parties put more focus on environmental issues.


I don't have a lot of confidence in the Liberals as the Opposition, is my problem with the results. I don't like the Conservatives or agree with anything they stand for, but I'm realistic enough to accept the inevitability of their winning again.

With any luck the Liberals and NDP will band together to strengthen the Opposition's opposition. shrug

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Reply #3 posted 10/15/08 3:02am

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meow85 said:

savoirfaire said:



A conservative minority is exactly what I was hoping for...

A party with real leadership is in power, but any out of control spending or social reform is held in check by an opposition that can take them down.

I am only disappointed by the strength of the Bloc. I also wish the Green won 2 or 3 seats. I voted for them, feeling more national support for them would ensure that the major parties put more focus on environmental issues.


I don't have a lot of confidence in the Liberals as the Opposition, is my problem with the results. I don't like the Conservatives or agree with anything they stand for, but I'm realistic enough to accept the inevitability of their winning again.

With any luck the Liberals and NDP will band together to strengthen the Opposition's opposition. shrug


God I hope not.

I don't have too much issue with the Liberal party, if they'd grow some balls and propose a feasible alternative to the Conservatives, but the NDPs seem utterly clueless to me, and very very economy unfriendly.

I'd rather the Liberals just get a new leader and some new ideas.

I'm only in it for the music.
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Reply #4 posted 10/15/08 3:40am

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...and the Greens failed to win any seats at all this election.

damit confused
ahhh, that's only because my wife couldn't vote (well at least she voted Green here in Austria three weeks ago) but she doesn't live in Canada since ten years, so she was not allowed to vote at all evil

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Reply #5 posted 10/15/08 4:31am

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The Conservatives stab win another minority government with 143 seats.
The Liberals come in second, again as the Opposition, with 76 seats.
The Bloc Quebecois won 50 seats, the NDP won 37, and the Greens failed to win any seats at all this election.

So it's more or less the results I thought we'd have. I'm disappointed, but not surprised, with the results.

Thoughts, anyone?



more of the same, eh

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Reply #6 posted 10/15/08 7:12am

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savoirfaire said:

meow85 said:



I don't have a lot of confidence in the Liberals as the Opposition, is my problem with the results. I don't like the Conservatives or agree with anything they stand for, but I'm realistic enough to accept the inevitability of their winning again.

With any luck the Liberals and NDP will band together to strengthen the Opposition's opposition. shrug


God I hope not.

I don't have too much issue with the Liberal party, if they'd grow some balls and propose a feasible alternative to the Conservatives, but the NDPs seem utterly clueless to me, and very very economy unfriendly.

I'd rather the Liberals just get a new leader and some new ideas.


If the Liberals were anything but Conservative-light, it wouldn't be a problem for me. But what kind of opposition can they possibly provide when they're sitting in the Conservatives lap as it is? I find their version of politics disturbing. I don't see a problem with the NDP in terms of economics, though Jack Layton really is kind of a tool.
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Reply #7 posted 10/15/08 7:24am

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Reply #8 posted 10/15/08 7:34am

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what happened to the liberal voting base? why the drop in numbers?

ufo
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Reply #9 posted 10/15/08 9:32am

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Oh no! Why? Is Canada becoming more conservative?

Of course, there are different types of conservatives so...

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The Conservatives should be held responsible for wasting everyone's time and taxpayer money with an election where nothing really changed much. Harper should be ashamed of breaking his own law to only hold elections on set years.

I'm disappointed with the results, in my riding in St. Boniface (Winnipeg), we now have a Conservative who once had to take stress leave from a school lunchroom supervisor job.

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XxAxX said:

what happened to the liberal voting base? why the drop in numbers?

A lot of the talking heads are theorizing that dissatisfied traditional Liberal voters just stayed home this time rather than vote for another party. Which could be true, given only 59% of the eligible population bothered to vote, this has been Canada's worst election turnout ever.

A lot of people really couldn't have cared less about this election, and many -including me -thought it was unnecessary to have called one at all. It's hard to expect any kind of proper voter turnout when the public isn't excited about the results. I thought the whole thing was stupid, but I still went out to vote. It may not have worked, but when I'm given a chance to get rid of that sociopath Harper, I'll take it.

Let's hope things turn out better in the U.S. I don't know if I could handle another Conservative/Republican combination for our countries. Good luck, guys.

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Reply #12 posted 10/15/08 12:21pm

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lascantas said:

Oh no! Why? Is Canada becoming more conservative?

Of course, there are different types of conservatives so...

To be fair, the Conservative Party still isn't anywhere near as conservative as the Republicans are. But still, the shift to the right up here is troubling.

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Reply #13 posted 10/15/08 12:26pm

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meow85 said:

XxAxX said:

what happened to the liberal voting base? why the drop in numbers?

A lot of the talking heads are theorizing that dissatisfied traditional Liberal voters just stayed home this time rather than vote for another party. Which could be true, given only 59% of the eligible population bothered to vote, this has been Canada's worst election turnout ever.

A lot of people really couldn't have cared less about this election, and many -including me -thought it was unnecessary to have called one at all. It's hard to expect any kind of proper voter turnout when the public isn't excited about the results. I thought the whole thing was stupid, but I still went out to vote. It may not have worked, but when I'm given a chance to get rid of that sociopath Harper, I'll take it.

Let's hope things turn out better in the U.S. I don't know if I could handle another Conservative/Republican combination for our countries. Good luck, guys.



thank you, i think we will need it

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Reply #14 posted 10/15/08 12:27pm

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The Conservatives should be held responsible for wasting everyone's time and taxpayer money with an election where nothing really changed much. Harper should be ashamed of breaking his own law to only hold elections on set years.


nod Agreed. It was a complete waste of time. The only reason Harper demanded this election was to serve his own ego. He thought -wrongly, obviously -that a majority government would be an easy sell. Thank God Canadians aren't quite as dumb as he'd hoped.


I'm disappointed with the results, in my riding in St. Boniface (Winnipeg), we now have a Conservative who once had to take stress leave from a school lunchroom supervisor job.


Good Lord. How can anyone who couldn't handle a lunchlady(man) job handle political office?

The NDP incumbent won in my riding. The Lower Mainland is usually a left-wing stronghold, but even out here certain ridings that were traditionally NDP switched to Liberal, and certain ridings that had been Liberal are now Conservative. It's tempting to say this is as a result of our high immigrant population as immigrants tend to be more right-wing, but this right-shift has happened even in mostly non-immigrant ridings. It could be that the economy has spooked people into changing their votes, but I don't know for sure.

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XxAxX said:

meow85 said:


A lot of the talking heads are theorizing that dissatisfied traditional Liberal voters just stayed home this time rather than vote for another party. Which could be true, given only 59% of the eligible population bothered to vote, this has been Canada's worst election turnout ever.

A lot of people really couldn't have cared less about this election, and many -including me -thought it was unnecessary to have called one at all. It's hard to expect any kind of proper voter turnout when the public isn't excited about the results. I thought the whole thing was stupid, but I still went out to vote. It may not have worked, but when I'm given a chance to get rid of that sociopath Harper, I'll take it.

Let's hope things turn out better in the U.S. I don't know if I could handle another Conservative/Republican combination for our countries. Good luck, guys.



thank you, i think we will need it


thumbs up!

If I could lend my vote for Obama and help out, I would. It's times like these of double elections that I wish I had dual citizenship.

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Reply #16 posted 10/15/08 12:40pm

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An unwanted, unwarranted election that cost $300,000,000 to produce the same results that everyone anticipated. Good job, Canada.

The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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PurpleKnight said:

An unwanted, unwarranted election that cost $300,000,000 to produce the same results that everyone anticipated. Good job, Canada.

Don't blame all of us. no no no! The majority of the citizens and even the other political parties were opposed to this election. The credit for this stupidity falls squarely on Harper's Conservatives.

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Reply #18 posted 10/15/08 12:47pm

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meow85 said:

PurpleKnight said:

An unwanted, unwarranted election that cost $300,000,000 to produce the same results that everyone anticipated. Good job, Canada.

Don't blame all of us. no no no! The majority of the citizens and even the other political parties were opposed to this election. The credit for this stupidity falls squarely on Harper's Conservatives.


lol I'm Canadian myself. I guess I should qualify my statement. When I say "Canada" in this instance, I'm referring specifically to the militaristic, corporate-seized government.

The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

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PurpleKnight said:

meow85 said:


Don't blame all of us. no no no! The majority of the citizens and even the other political parties were opposed to this election. The credit for this stupidity falls squarely on Harper's Conservatives.


lol I'm Canadian myself. I guess I should qualify my statement. When I say "Canada" in this instance, I'm referring specifically to the militaristic, corporate-seized government.

Still though. It's not fair to go around blaming everybody for Harper being an egotistical dispshit.

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PurpleKnight said:



lol I'm Canadian myself. I guess I should qualify my statement. When I say "Canada" in this instance, I'm referring specifically to the militaristic, corporate-seized government.

Still though. It's not fair to go around blaming everybody for Harper being an egotistical dispshit.


There's still something to be said for the political passivity of Canadian culture.

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Reply #21 posted 10/15/08 7:54pm

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I was hoping the Liberals won sigh

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Reply #22 posted 10/15/08 9:06pm

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59.1% turnout is rubbish
are westerns the laziest people ever?

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Reply #23 posted 10/15/08 9:48pm

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foal30 said:

59.1% turnout is rubbish
are westerns the laziest people ever?


Congratulations for making an inference out of context and making an ignorant generalization.

This election was unwarranted and unwanted, and because the NDP are economically hapless and the Liberals without direction, everyone basically knew another Harper minority would result.

Political apathy isn't always unfounded.

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Reply #24 posted 10/15/08 10:10pm

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PurpleKnight said:

meow85 said:


Still though. It's not fair to go around blaming everybody for Harper being an egotistical dispshit.


There's still something to be said for the political passivity of Canadian culture.

nod

I can't imagine if a bigger percentage of voters actually bothered to turn up the Conservatives being in power would even be a question. The apathy seems to rest with the left-leaning base, as far as I can tell.

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meow85 said:

PurpleKnight said:



There's still something to be said for the political passivity of Canadian culture.

nod

I can't imagine if a bigger percentage of voters actually bothered to turn up the Conservatives being in power would even be a question. The apathy seems to rest with the left-leaning base, as far as I can tell.


I think so too, and I attribute it to the most left-wing constituency being completely disillusioned with the political system.

The first-past-the-post electoral system is in and of itself undemocratic. I can't blame people for opting not to vote when they know that even if their chosen candidate in their area receives 49% of the vote, that 49% is literally disregarded.

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meow85 said:


nod

I can't imagine if a bigger percentage of voters actually bothered to turn up the Conservatives being in power would even be a question. The apathy seems to rest with the left-leaning base, as far as I can tell.


I think so too, and I attribute it to the most left-wing constituency being completely disillusioned with the political system.

The first-past-the-post electoral system is in and of itself undemocratic, and I can't blame people for opting not to vote when they know that even if their chosen candidate in their area receives 49% of the vote, that 49% is literally disregarded.


nod

Overall, I prefer having a multi-party system to a two-party system, but our way of handling it has some major flaws. We need to retool our way of voting. "First past the post" doesn't make any sense -we've had so many cases of a party failing to win the popular vote but gaining power through this concept.

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Reply #27 posted 10/16/08 2:09am

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no, 59.1% turn out is rubbish
do not tell me where and how I may take context.
regardless of the the problems you describe.
how exactly is choosing not to vote helping the situation.

congratulations on useless oneupmanship.

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foal30 said:

no, 59.1% turn out is rubbish
do not tell me where and how I may take context.
regardless of the the problems you describe.
how exactly is choosing not to vote helping the situation.

congratulations on useless oneupmanship.


You're making a straw man out of me. Where did I say that choosing not to vote helps the situation?

The point is that you said Western people are the laziest, and that was a ridiculous comment. You're not taking other factors into consideration. Canadians didn't simply not feel like going out of their homes to vote.

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foal30 said:

no, 59.1% turn out is rubbish


wow, and I thought that when we had around 78% here in Austria a few weeks ago THAT was week. and yes, in fact it WAS one of the weekest turnouts we EVER had. when I first voted some 20 to 25 years ago the numbers were always above 90%. damn, people should be lucky to have the right and the freedom to vote, still some lazy dumbasses are incapable to realise that disbelief

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