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This being Columbus Day, which many of them don't celebrate, I am surprised we didn't see any articles posted on here about it. I know when I was living in Florida, many descendants of Native American tribes did not celebrate Columbus Day.
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2elijah said: This being Columbus Day, which many of them don't celebrate, I am surprised we didn't see any articles posted on here about it. I know when I was living in Florida, many descendants of Native American tribes did not celebrate Columbus Day.
Hopefully, if Obama becomes President, he did mention that he would sit down with Tribal Leaders and discuss their economic concerns. I know that he has the support of many Native American tribes in this country. They are way overdue for recognition. I agree. They are in the bottom precent of nation population now and days. Coming to Minnesota from New York i had never even knew they exsisted to be honest with you. I (not knowing what they were) just called them Indians becaus ethat is what all I knew...I knew more about puerto Ricans and Dominicans than the natives from this country. They deserve a month to them just like how we have our Feb. for Black History..where is the Native American History month? I know that the government gives them about a good $5,000 every year but I think they deserve recognition. | |
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paisleypark4 said: 2elijah said: This being Columbus Day, which many of them don't celebrate, I am surprised we didn't see any articles posted on here about it. I know when I was living in Florida, many descendants of Native American tribes did not celebrate Columbus Day.
Hopefully, if Obama becomes President, he did mention that he would sit down with Tribal Leaders and discuss their economic concerns. I know that he has the support of many Native American tribes in this country. They are way overdue for recognition. I agree. They are in the bottom precent of nation population now and days. Coming to Minnesota from New York i had never even knew they exsisted to be honest with you. I (not knowing what they were) just called them Indians becaus ethat is what all I knew...I knew more about puerto Ricans and Dominicans than the natives from this country. They deserve a month to them just like how we have our Feb. for Black History..where is the Native American History month? I know that the government gives them about a good $5,000 every year but I think they deserve recognition. Here's some info: The Creation of American Indian Heritage Month A brief historySource: U.S. Dept. of the Interior, Bureau of Indian Affairs ----- Dr. Arthur C. Parker What started at the turn of the century as an effort to gain a day of recognition for the significant contributions the first Americans made to the establishment and growth of the U.S., has resulted in a whole month being designated for that purpose. Early Proponents One of the very proponents of an American Indian Day was Dr. Arthur C. Parker, a Seneca Indian, who was the director of the Museum of Arts and Science in Rochester, N.Y. He persuaded the Boy Scouts of America to set aside a day for the "First Americans" and for three years they adopted such a day. In 1915, the annual Congress of the American Indian Association meeting in Lawrence, Kans., formally approved a plan concerning American Indian Day. It directed its president, Rev. Sherman Coolidge, an Arapahoe, to call upon the country to observe such a day. Coolidge issued a proclamation on Sept. 28, 1915, which declared the second Saturday of each May as an American Indian Day and contained the first formal appeal for recognition of Indians as citizens. The year before this proclamation was issued, Red Fox James, a Blackfoot Indian, rode horseback from state to state seeking approval for a day to honor Indians. On December 14, 1915, he presented the endorsements of 24 state governments at the White House. There is no record, however, of such a national day being proclaimed. State Celebrations The first American Indian Day in a state was declared on the second Saturday in May 1916 by the governor of N.Y. Several states celebrate the fourth Friday in September. In Illinois, for example, legislators enacted such a day in 1919. Presently, several states have designated Columbus Day as Native American Day, but it continues to be a day we observe without any recognition as a national legal holiday. Heritage Months In 1990 President George H. W. Bush approved a joint resolution designating November 1990 "National American Indian Heritage Month." Similar proclamations have been issued each year since 1994. [Edited 10/13/08 8:17am] http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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paisleypark4 said: When will the Native Americans get appreciation?
I am not a Native American myself, however I think the African American story is a bit related if not the same as the Native American experience in alot of ways. Why arent there any more appreciation for the Native Americans and the struggle they endure to this day? if you keep an eye out you will see that there have been many threads about native american peoples here at the ORG. so yes, people DO care about the native americans.   | |
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XxAxX said: paisleypark4 said: When will the Native Americans get appreciation?
I am not a Native American myself, however I think the African American story is a bit related if not the same as the Native American experience in alot of ways. Why arent there any more appreciation for the Native Americans and the struggle they endure to this day? if you keep an eye out you will see that there have been many threads about native american peoples here at the ORG. so yes, people DO care about the native americans. i still want a pair of moccassins and a teepee, doest that count? | |
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The complete lack of attention we give to the Native American genocide is one of the greatest moral failings of our time. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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PurpleKnight said: The complete lack of attention we give to the Native American genocide is one of the greatest moral failings of our time.
But Native Americans do speak out about it. It just does not get media attention and that is where their voices need to be heard. What we don't see, we won't know about. I remember they showed a group at an Obama rally in Montana that heavily supports Obama. At a conference a couple of months ago, a member of a Native American organization questioned Obama regarding the state of the Native Americans in America, and Obama stated he would sit down with the Heads of the tribal organizations and discuss their needs and concerns to uplift their people. I hope he holds true to his word on that should he become President.of the U.S. I'm sure the members of the Native American tribes will hold him to his word,and if Obama comes through on it, that in itself with be a historic moment. http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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I'm a bit torn on this subject because out here in California we have tribes turning a pretty penny with their Tribal Casinos. Now, I'm all for them stickin' it to the man by takin' our money when we choose to lose it by gambling. I appreciate those tribes that share the equity and wealth they generate amongst their people.
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I am grieved by how Native Americans have been treated and how their contributions to the earth and history are not widely recognized.
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They may not get the recognition they deserve and some of them live a sad life but I think that there has been a lot of progress in the last two decades. At least they get more respect and more and more Americans are proud to mention their Native American ancestry ( in case they have Native American ancestors in their family tree). This would have been unthinkable in the 1950-70s. People no longer deny their ancestry,which is a small but nevertheless important step in the right direction.The Native Americans are becoming more and more an essential part of the American identity, though this is at the same time very sad since there aren´t that many of them around these days. | |
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2elijah said: PurpleKnight said: The complete lack of attention we give to the Native American genocide is one of the greatest moral failings of our time.
But Native Americans do speak out about it. It just does not get media attention and that is where their voices need to be heard. What we don't see, we won't know about. I remember they showed a group at an Obama rally in Montana that heavily supports Obama. At a conference a couple of months ago, a member of a Native American organization questioned Obama regarding the state of the Native Americans in America, and Obama stated he would sit down with the Heads of the tribal organizations and discuss their needs and concerns to uplift their people. I hope he holds true to his word on that should he become President.of the U.S. I'm sure the members of the Native American tribes will hold him to his word,and if Obama comes through on it, that in itself with be a historic moment. I think minorities understand the importance of other minorities. Any minority in any country will always have it harder than the higher percentage of culture...however they connect more with other minorities could because they understand already what it is like and can adapt well more so than a race that never had to go through that struggle. | |
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paisleypark4 said: When will the Native Americans get appreciation?
I am not a Native American myself, however I think the African American story is a bit related if not the same as the Native American experience in alot of ways. Why arent there any more appreciation for the Native Americans and the struggle they endure to this day? Appreciation by whom? How do you classify appreciation? (What qualifies? and is there a quantity involved, or timetable . . .?) Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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2elijah said: This being Columbus Day, which many of them don't celebrate, I am surprised we didn't see any articles posted on here about it. I know when I was living in Florida, many descendants of Native American tribes did not celebrate Columbus Day.
Hopefully, if Obama becomes President, he did mention that he would sit down with Tribal Leaders and discuss their economic concerns. I know that he has the support of many Native American tribes in this country. They are way overdue for recognition. Why would they celebrate Columbus Day? Anyway calling it Columbus Day is just about out. Italian-American Appreciation Day is the most ludicrous renaming of it. Indigenous People Day , . . In California, it hasn't been Columbus Day since the '70's. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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KoolEaze said: They may not get the recognition they deserve and some of them live a sad life but I think that there has been a lot of progress in the last two decades. At least they get more respect and more and more Americans are proud to mention their Native American ancestry ( in case they have Native American ancestors in their family tree). This would have been unthinkable in the 1950-70s. People no longer deny their ancestry,which is a small but nevertheless important step in the right direction.The Native Americans are becoming more and more an essential part of the American identity, though this is at the same time very sad since there aren´t that many of them around these days.
I have to agree Kooleaze. They do get more respect and more empathy, and I do notice that people are not shamed of mentioning their Native American ancestry as well. It will be interesting to see one run for President some day. Maybe Senator Obama will be the role model for that and other minorities. http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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2elijah said: PurpleKnight said: The complete lack of attention we give to the Native American genocide is one of the greatest moral failings of our time.
But Native Americans do speak out about it. It just does not get media attention and that is where their voices need to be heard. What we don't see, we won't know about. I remember they showed a group at an Obama rally in Montana that heavily supports Obama. At a conference a couple of months ago, a member of a Native American organization questioned Obama regarding the state of the Native Americans in America, and Obama stated he would sit down with the Heads of the tribal organizations and discuss their needs and concerns to uplift their people. I hope he holds true to his word on that should he become President.of the U.S. I'm sure the members of the Native American tribes will hold him to his word,and if Obama comes through on it, that in itself with be a historic moment. I have to comment. I hate it when African-Americans used that excuse about not being taught their history in school or educationally deprived. You are in school 24/7. If you can read, you can access all the knowledge known to man. You can seek out and educate yourself on any subject or topic. Once you've learned to read, stop blaming what wasn't taught. Blame yourself for not reading, for not showing interest in learning, for assuming someone would spoon feed you what you wanted to know. The Federal Government is still screwing over Native American and have defrauded a trust that was supposed to be used to benefit Native Americans. Also media especially commercial media is not about equal access. Go seek out the answers to your questions and educate yourself. The "you" is a collective one and not specific to any individual in this thread. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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SUPRMAN said: 2elijah said: This being Columbus Day, which many of them don't celebrate, I am surprised we didn't see any articles posted on here about it. I know when I was living in Florida, many descendants of Native American tribes did not celebrate Columbus Day.
Hopefully, if Obama becomes President, he did mention that he would sit down with Tribal Leaders and discuss their economic concerns. I know that he has the support of many Native American tribes in this country. They are way overdue for recognition. Why would they celebrate Columbus Day? Anyway calling it Columbus Day is just about out. Italian-American Appreciation Day is the most ludicrous renaming of it. Indigenous People Day , . . In California, it hasn't been Columbus Day since the '70's. Calm down suprman.  You didn't read the first line of my post right. I specifically stated "Many of them don't celebrate it", but in the past in P&R there have been articles regarding the celebration of Columbus Day in America and how some Native Americans feel about Americans celebrating it. I personally just within a couple of years, found out that Columbus named the birthplace of my parents/grandparents place of birth (St. Thomas, St. John and St. Croix in the U.S. Virgin Islands);at least that is what I remember reading.
Also, articles on what "actually" took place during Columbus' arrival in the Americas and various Caribbean Islands. Very detailed accounts were noted. Some that surprised me. There is a a documentary about it on youtube, that I can't find right now, but it was floating around the net about 2 years ago. http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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SUPRMAN said: 2elijah said: But Native Americans do speak out about it. It just does not get media attention and that is where their voices need to be heard. What we don't see, we won't know about. I remember they showed a group at an Obama rally in Montana that heavily supports Obama. At a conference a couple of months ago, a member of a Native American organization questioned Obama regarding the state of the Native Americans in America, and Obama stated he would sit down with the Heads of the tribal organizations and discuss their needs and concerns to uplift their people. I hope he holds true to his word on that should he become President.of the U.S. I'm sure the members of the Native American tribes will hold him to his word,and if Obama comes through on it, that in itself with be a historic moment. I have to comment. I hate it when African-Americans used that excuse about not being taught their history in school or educationally deprived. You are in school 24/7. If you can read, you can access all the knowledge known to man. You can seek out and educate yourself on any subject or topic. Once you've learned to read, stop blaming what wasn't taught. Blame yourself for not reading, for not showing interest in learning, for assuming someone would spoon feed you what you wanted to know. The Federal Government is still screwing over Native American and have defrauded a trust that was supposed to be used to benefit Native Americans. Also media especially commercial media is not about equal access. Go seek out the answers to your questions and educate yourself. The "you" is a collective one and not specific to any individual in this thread. You are really going off the handle and I think you are being quite rude. That comment, "what we don't see, we don't know about" was in reference to the fact the Native American issues do not get much media attention or coverage at all media-wise. It was not about we, as individuals not "seeking knowledge" to learn about a culture. That is always up to the individual, and that is the problem in society, people don't take the time to pick up a book and read about various races/cultures or we would not have the stereotypical views and assumptions floating around in our society like we do now. Most people get their historical information just from watching documentaries on tv, that was my point. Also, you do not know me personally, so don't point fingers or put me in a box with everyone else as though you do. I have educated myself about quite a few Native American tribes and people from other backgrounds, and that information has been posted here several times as well. Don't lecture me especially if you don't know what you are talking about, and quite frankly I do not care what you "hate about what excuses African-Americans use" Since when do I or any African-American have to answer directly to you for their actions? Get a grip. These are all opinions here, not the end all be all final decision or opinion on any topic. What "excuse" did you see in my post? For one thing, you generalized as though all African-Americans walk alike, talk alike and think alike. Shame on you. I have never been or intend to be educationally-deprived. What we choose to learn or choose to educate ourselves about is up to each individual. Try to remember that. Secondly, if you want to give an opinion, try to be respectful of others instead of judging an entire race based on one or two individuals from that race. I am surprised at your reactions to these posts, when you should be a bit more open-minded and understand these are just individuals voicing their opinions.instead of criticizing them for it. one word added in 1st paragraph edit [Edited 10/14/08 18:24pm] http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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RenHoek said: I'm a bit torn on this subject because out here in California we have tribes turning a pretty penny with their Tribal Casinos. Now, I'm all for them stickin' it to the man by takin' our money when we choose to lose it by gambling. I appreciate those tribes that share the equity and wealth they generate amongst their people.
However I do feel that both side could do more to further appreciate the languages, cultures and traditions that are falling by the wayside and I do not appreciate those tribes that have modernized fully and are ignoring their past. Like Western and Eastern beliefs haven't evolved and changed. We don't hang onto Greek ideals from 300 B.C., or Rome from 100 A.D. or the Dark Ages . . . Let that be their choice. If they don't value it, . . . I think as much as we've taken from them we are assholes to insist they again share their wealth. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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SynthiaRose said: I am grieved by how Native Americans have been treated and how their contributions to the earth and history are not widely recognized.
In fact, I think there was a thread last year where it asked if you could go back in time and live in any era what would it be ... and I mentioned that I wanted to live amongst Native Americans before the settlers came. I really respect their views on nature and the environment and the spirit. Anyway, I know this is silly but it breaks my heart that I can't walk down the street and see a Native American person at the park or at the mall. The absence of them in everyday life for me is mindboggling -- considering they were in America first. One day I hope to visit a reservation...but considering their living conditions, I think that would make me sad. You probably see more than you think. They just don't look like you think they would or should. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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2elijah said: SUPRMAN said: I have to comment. I hate it when African-Americans used that excuse about not being taught their history in school or educationally deprived. You are in school 24/7. If you can read, you can access all the knowledge known to man. You can seek out and educate yourself on any subject or topic. Once you've learned to read, stop blaming what wasn't taught. Blame yourself for not reading, for not showing interest in learning, for assuming someone would spoon feed you what you wanted to know. The Federal Government is still screwing over Native American and have defrauded a trust that was supposed to be used to benefit Native Americans. Also media especially commercial media is not about equal access. Go seek out the answers to your questions and educate yourself. The "you" is a collective one and not specific to any individual in this thread. You are really going off the handle and I think you are being quite rude. That comment, "what we don't see, we don't know about" was in reference to the fact the Native American issues do not get much media attention or coverage at all media-wise. It was not about we, as individuals not "seeking knowledge" to learn about a culture. That is always up to the individual, and that is the problem in society, people don't take the time to pick up a book and read about various races/cultures or we would have the stereotypical views and assumptions floating around in our society. Most people get their historical information just from watching documentaries on tv, that was my point. Also, you do not know me personally, so don't point fingers or put me in a box with everyone else as though you do. I have educated myself about quite a few Native American tribes and people from other backgrounds, and that information has been posted here several times as well. Don't lecture me especially if you don't know what you are talking about, and quite frankly I do not care what you "hate about what excuses African-Americans use" Since when do I or any African-American have to answer directly to you for their actions? Get a grip. These are all opinions here, not the end all be all final decision or opinion on any topic. What "excuse" did you see in my post? For one thing, you generalized as though all African-Americans walk alike, talk alike and think alike. Shame on you. I have never been or intend to be educationally-deprived. What we choose to learn or choose to educate ourselves about is up to each individual. Try to remember that. Secondly, if you want to give an opinion, try to be respectful of others instead of judging an entire race based on one or two individuals from that race. I am surprised at your reactions to these posts, when you should be a bit more open-minded and understand these are just individuals voicing their opinions.instead of criticizing them for it. [Edited 10/13/08 13:21pm] Once again, as I stated at the end of my post, my use of "YOU" was not specific to you. I am not judging an entire race. I'm black myself. I was also not confining my comments to discussing African-Americans. I should have made that more clear. Using the term African-American . . . . I should have just said anyone, but I was speaking to my closest frame of reference which is in talking to fellow blacks especially males I always hear about what they weren't taught in school. I am so tired of hearing that as an excuse. Do for yourself and stop waiting on the government or someone else to step. If people choose to voice their opinions then they are opening themselves up for criticism. No one is required to post. If it's posted, then it's fair game. That's a general rule whether that comment is verbal or in writing. You don't have to share your opinion. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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2elijah said: SUPRMAN said: Why would they celebrate Columbus Day? Anyway calling it Columbus Day is just about out. Italian-American Appreciation Day is the most ludicrous renaming of it. Indigenous People Day , . . In California, it hasn't been Columbus Day since the '70's. Calm down suprman. You didn't read the first line of my post right. I specifically stated "Many of them don't celebrate it", but in the past in P&R there have been articles regarding the celebration of Columbus Day in America and how some Native Americans feel about Americans celebrating it. I personally just within a couple of years, found out that Columbus named the birthplace of my parents/grandparents place of birth (St. Thomas, St. John and St. Croix in the U.S. Virgin Islands);at least that is what I remember reading.
Also, articles on what "actually" took place during Columbus' arrival in the Americas and various Caribbean Islands. Very detailed accounts were noted. Some that surprised me. There is a a documentary about it on youtube, that I can't find right now, but it was floating around the net about 2 years ago. I read it. I'm not hot - yet.
Many of the don't celebrate it. True. But they have no reason or incentive to which is what generated my initial comment. More going on in my head than getting into type and posted. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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2elijah said: PurpleKnight said: The complete lack of attention we give to the Native American genocide is one of the greatest moral failings of our time.
But Native Americans do speak out about it. It just does not get media attention and that is where their voices need to be heard. What we don't see, we won't know about. I remember they showed a group at an Obama rally in Montana that heavily supports Obama. At a conference a couple of months ago, a member of a Native American organization questioned Obama regarding the state of the Native Americans in America, and Obama stated he would sit down with the Heads of the tribal organizations and discuss their needs and concerns to uplift their people. I hope he holds true to his word on that should he become President.of the U.S. I'm sure the members of the Native American tribes will hold him to his word,and if Obama comes through on it, that in itself with be a historic moment. That's my point entirely. Native Americans speak about it. The dominant class does not. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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SUPRMAN said:[quote] 2elijah said: You are really going off the handle and I think you are being quite rude. That comment, "what we don't see, we don't know about" was in reference to the fact the Native American issues do not get much media attention or coverage at all media-wise. It was not about we, as individuals not "seeking knowledge" to learn about a culture. That is always up to the individual, and that is the problem in society, people don't take the time to pick up a book and read about various races/cultures or we would have the stereotypical views and assumptions floating around in our society. I was fortunate to go to two predominatley black schools and thought I was taught enough about the black experience. Especially seeing multiple black films, from the week long essays about Roots to the study of The Color Purple, Amistad and even Dorthy Dangridge and Josephine Baker. However I find alot of other black people who grew up in the suburbs did not have any access to this infrmation and thus were not taught well enough about themselves. To this day I really dont know too much about Asians or Native Americans, and learned nothing about Somolians or Africans themselves, because..hell...I wasnt taught enough about them. And to be honest with you I didnt feel like I really had to...but that is how every culture is. So you are right in a sense that if you want to actually learn more about another culture the textbooks are always there. SAd but true. I guess schools pertain to what is the dominant culture in the building, which was the case in my life and envornment. | |
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SUPRMAN said: SynthiaRose said: I am grieved by how Native Americans have been treated and how their contributions to the earth and history are not widely recognized.
In fact, I think there was a thread last year where it asked if you could go back in time and live in any era what would it be ... and I mentioned that I wanted to live amongst Native Americans before the settlers came. I really respect their views on nature and the environment and the spirit. Anyway, I know this is silly but it breaks my heart that I can't walk down the street and see a Native American person at the park or at the mall. The absence of them in everyday life for me is mindboggling -- considering they were in America first. One day I hope to visit a reservation...but considering their living conditions, I think that would make me sad. You probably see more than you think. They just don't look like you think they would or should. No, Having been a reporter, I've met and interviewed Native American people. I'm not talking about folks whose great great grandfather was Native American. I used to work with a reporter who claimed Native American heritage but it was merely a fraction and not noticeable. Not talking about folks like him. Join my Astrology Forum: http://scorpioland.ning.com/
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SUPRMAN said: 2elijah said: You are really going off the handle and I think you are being quite rude. That comment, "what we don't see, we don't know about" was in reference to the fact the Native American issues do not get much media attention or coverage at all media-wise. It was not about we, as individuals not "seeking knowledge" to learn about a culture. That is always up to the individual, and that is the problem in society, people don't take the time to pick up a book and read about various races/cultures or we would have the stereotypical views and assumptions floating around in our society. Most people get their historical information just from watching documentaries on tv, that was my point. Also, you do not know me personally, so don't point fingers or put me in a box with everyone else as though you do. I have educated myself about quite a few Native American tribes and people from other backgrounds, and that information has been posted here several times as well. Don't lecture me especially if you don't know what you are talking about, and quite frankly I do not care what you "hate about what excuses African-Americans use" Since when do I or any African-American have to answer directly to you for their actions? Get a grip. These are all opinions here, not the end all be all final decision or opinion on any topic. What "excuse" did you see in my post? For one thing, you generalized as though all African-Americans walk alike, talk alike and think alike. Shame on you. I have never been or intend to be educationally-deprived. What we choose to learn or choose to educate ourselves about is up to each individual. Try to remember that. Secondly, if you want to give an opinion, try to be respectful of others instead of judging an entire race based on one or two individuals from that race. I am surprised at your reactions to these posts, when you should be a bit more open-minded and understand these are just individuals voicing their opinions.instead of criticizing them for it. [Edited 10/13/08 13:21pm] Once again, as I stated at the end of my post, my use of "YOU" was not specific to you. I am not judging an entire race. I'm black myself. I was also not confining my comments to discussing African-Americans. I should have made that more clear. Using the term African-American . . . . I should have just said anyone, but I was speaking to my closest frame of reference which is in talking to fellow blacks especially males I always hear about what they weren't taught in school. I am so tired of hearing that as an excuse. Do for yourself and stop waiting on the government or someone else to step. If people choose to voice their opinions then they are opening themselves up for criticism. No one is required to post. If it's posted, then it's fair game. That's a general rule whether that comment is verbal or in writing. You don't have to share your opinion. Well, I have no fear of being criticized for my opinion, I just found your statement too generalized and it sounded as though you did not read my post completely that's all. All is good now. [Edited 10/13/08 14:11pm] http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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paisleypark4 said:[quote] SUPRMAN said: 2elijah said: You are really going off the handle and I think you are being quite rude. That comment, "what we don't see, we don't know about" was in reference to the fact the Native American issues do not get much media attention or coverage at all media-wise. It was not about we, as individuals not "seeking knowledge" to learn about a culture. That is always up to the individual, and that is the problem in society, people don't take the time to pick up a book and read about various races/cultures or we would have the stereotypical views and assumptions floating around in our society. I was fortunate to go to two predominatley black schools and thought I was taught enough about the black experience. Especially seeing multiple black films, from the week long essays about Roots to the study of The Color Purple, Amistad and even Dorthy Dangridge and Josephine Baker. However I find alot of other black people who grew up in the suburbs did not have any access to this infrmation and thus were not taught well enough about themselves. To this day I really dont know too much about Asians or Native Americans, and learned nothing about Somolians or Africans themselves, because..hell...I wasnt taught enough about them. And to be honest with you I didnt feel like I really had to...but that is how every culture is. So you are right in a sense that if you want to actually learn more about another culture the textbooks are always there. SAd but true. I guess schools pertain to what is the dominant culture in the building, which was the case in my life and envornment. Well, just as Suprman indicated (and yes I am agreeing with you on this point Suprman) that we have to individually seek that knowledge on our own. I learned more about various races and cultures by reading books and researching on my own and speaking to people from various backgrounds and asking them questions right from the source I needed the info from. Don't depend on any educational institution to make it their responsibility to teach you about all the races/cultures that exist. Seek the knowledge for anything you want to learn on your own, and that is how you will increase your knowledge, there are no limitations to what you can learn. To give an example, Historian John Henrik Clarke, who is one of the greatest historians who ever walked this earth, taught himself about every, existing race. He once said, learn about another race so that when you are in conversation with a person of a specific race, that you will be able to discuss it with them, as well as your own. The man had scholars from all over the world contacting him for information and he didn't even have a college degree, until I believe he was given an honorary one by Hunter College in NY. (Anyone aware if this is an error, feel free to correct me). There is so much I want to learn and I have always been interested in various races cultures. I love ancient Egyptian history, Black American as well as African history, and try to educate myself on various races/cultures. What I don't know, I don't discuss. What I do, I engage in conversations with others as well as learn from others. The world of information is vast and open to you. Take advantage of it. [Edited 10/13/08 17:09pm] http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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SynthiaRose said: SUPRMAN said: You probably see more than you think. They just don't look like you think they would or should. No, Having been a reporter, I've met and interviewed Native American people. I'm not talking about folks whose great great grandfather was Native American. I used to work with a reporter who claimed Native American heritage but it was merely a fraction and not noticeable. Not talking about folks like him. I stand corrected. But I was thinking of people who are not fully American Indian Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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SynthiaRose said: SUPRMAN said: You probably see more than you think. They just don't look like you think they would or should. No, Having been a reporter, I've met and interviewed Native American people. I'm not talking about folks whose great great grandfather was Native American. I used to work with a reporter who claimed Native American heritage but it was merely a fraction and not noticeable. Not talking about folks like him. Perhaps it's a matter of geography. I see them all the time. Maybe Minneapolis and Minnesota have a greater population than many areas of the US, I've never really thought about it. 2 of my oldest friends are native american. I've been to pow wows with them, celebrated thanksgiving with one of their families even. But we should have a much, much higher population than we do. Would you like to marry me?
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