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Another abortion thread: Palin is a nutjob Posted on CNN today and this is not the whole article:
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No, but if you give it to the states then the Republicans can no longer use it as a national campaign issue. Also they want the hypocrisy of not having abortion in their state but being able to send their daughters to California or New York to have one over a "vacation."
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aside from the nuttiness of the argument, the strategy behind this is just self-defeating. the serious anti-choice folks are already voting for McCain/Palin. what the ticket needs are undecided voters, and they seem to worry a lot more about the economy right now. with the current crisis, abortion is not the issue it once was. but i guess that's all they've got left after the Ayers attacks didn't stick. | |
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She kills moose and like most people on earth she probably kills insects so therefore she's a murderer. She should just seal her mouth. "Shake yer reptile, baby!"  | |
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Cloudbuster said: She kills moose and like most people on earth she probably kills insects so therefore she's a murderer. She should just seal her mouth.
that is a great comparison. insects and moose are definitely equal to an unborn fetus. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful WORKS OF DARKNESS, but rather EXPOSE THEM.. Ephesians 5:11" | |
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thepope2the9s said: Cloudbuster said: She kills moose and like most people on earth she probably kills insects so therefore she's a murderer. She should just seal her mouth.
that is a great comparison. insects and moose are definitely equal to an unborn fetus. Well, animals and insects are concious beings with the ability to feel pain whereas a human foetus is unconcious and without a central nervous system with which to feel pain until many weeks into the pregnancy so... no, not equal at all, in fact. Nice try, tho'. "Shake yer reptile, baby!" | |
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thepope2the9s said: Cloudbuster said: She kills moose and like most people on earth she probably kills insects so therefore she's a murderer. She should just seal her mouth.
that is a great comparison. insects and moose are definitely equal to an unborn fetus. Oh stop it. Life is life is the point. Let's not put fetus' on a pedestal, or we can but we just have to abort it first. Oops.  Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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SUPRMAN said: thepope2the9s said: that is a great comparison. insects and moose are definitely equal to an unborn fetus.
Oh stop it. Life is life is the point. Let's not put fetus' on a pedestal, or we can but we just have to abort it first. Oops. "Shake yer reptile, baby!" | |
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Cloudbuster said: thepope2the9s said: that is a great comparison. insects and moose are definitely equal to an unborn fetus. Well, animals and insects are concious beings with the ability to feel pain whereas a human foetus is unconcious and without a central nervous system with which to feel pain until many weeks into the pregnancy so... no, not equal at all, in fact. Nice try, tho'. How many weeks into the pregnancy? And have no fellowship with the unfruitful WORKS OF DARKNESS, but rather EXPOSE THEM.. Ephesians 5:11" | |
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thepope2the9s said: How many weeks into the pregnancy?
Though the central nervous system develops about six weeks into the pregnancy, it's roughly 15 weeks, during the second trimester, at which a human can feel pain. "Shake yer reptile, baby!" | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: aside from the nuttiness of the argument, the strategy behind this is just self-defeating. the serious anti-choice folks are already voting for McCain/Palin. what the ticket needs are undecided voters, and they seem to worry a lot more about the economy right now. with the current crisis, abortion is not the issue it once was. but i guess that's all they've got left after the Ayers attacks didn't stick.
How many more women will turn to abortion if they're living in the New Millenium Great Depression? I stay Woke.
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Cloudbuster said: thepope2the9s said: How many weeks into the pregnancy?
Though the central nervous system develops about six weeks into the pregnancy, it's roughly 15 weeks, during the second trimester, at which a human can feel pain. The majority of abortions are in the first trimester. But hey, who even needs abortion when you have the morning after pill!  I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: The majority of abortions are in the first trimester.
But hey, who even needs abortion when you have the morning after pill!
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Cloudbuster said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: The majority of abortions are in the first trimester.
But hey, who even needs abortion when you have the morning after pill!
can you imagine being hysterical over the equivalent of putting a soccer goalie in your cunt to block a fascist being from taking over your life? I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: can you imagine being hysterical over the equivalent of putting a soccer goalie in your cunt to block a fascist being from taking over your life?
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Cloudbuster said: thepope2the9s said: How many weeks into the pregnancy?
Though the central nervous system develops about six weeks into the pregnancy, it's roughly 15 weeks, during the second trimester, at which a human can feel pain. so it all comes down to pain. If the person/animal/or being feels pain it is not okay to kill, if they dont feel pain, have at it! Let me ask this. If one believes in evolution, then also they surely must believe in the survival of the fittest? And if so, wouldnt the survivial of the fittest involve those evolving kill others to survive and evolve? If so, killing a moose or other animal is not so bad as long as it is due to our survival and constant evolution. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful WORKS OF DARKNESS, but rather EXPOSE THEM.. Ephesians 5:11" | |
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thepope2the9s said: Cloudbuster said: Though the central nervous system develops about six weeks into the pregnancy, it's roughly 15 weeks, during the second trimester, at which a human can feel pain. so it all comes down to pain. If the person/animal/or being feels pain it is not okay to kill, if they dont feel pain, have at it! Let me ask this. If one believes in evolution, then also they surely must believe in the survival of the fittest? And if so, wouldnt the survivial of the fittest involve those evolving kill others to survive and evolve? If so, killing a moose or other animal is not so bad as long as it is due to our survival and constant evolution. Thank you for making the argument for abortion I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: thepope2the9s said: so it all comes down to pain. If the person/animal/or being feels pain it is not okay to kill, if they dont feel pain, have at it! Let me ask this. If one believes in evolution, then also they surely must believe in the survival of the fittest? And if so, wouldnt the survivial of the fittest involve those evolving kill others to survive and evolve? If so, killing a moose or other animal is not so bad as long as it is due to our survival and constant evolution. Thank you for making the argument for abortion or against--depends on one's worldview. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful WORKS OF DARKNESS, but rather EXPOSE THEM.. Ephesians 5:11" | |
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thepope2the9s said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Thank you for making the argument for abortion or against--depends on one's worldview. People who savage innocent moose from helicopters (unfair fight) should shut the fuck up about other women defending themselves from unwanted circumstance. I stay Woke.
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Stymie said: Posted on CNN today and this is not the whole article:
"A vote for Barack Obama is a vote for activist courts that will continue to smother the open and democratic debate that we deserve and that we need on this issue of life," she said. "Obama is a politician who has long since left behind even the middle ground on the issue of life." Obama opposes any constitutional amendment to overturn the Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade and disagreed with Supreme Court ruling to uphold the "Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act." He did not cast a vote on Prohibiting Funds for Groups that Perform Abortions amendment in 2007. Palin opposes abortion in all cases, including rape and incest, except when a mother's life is in danger, and said she believes Roe v. Wade should be overturned and the decision given to the states. McCain voted for the Prohibit Partial Birth Abortion bill in 2003 and "yes" for Prohibiting Funds for Groups that Perform Abortions amendment in 2007. He believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and also supports the Supreme Court ruling upholding the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. Palin also talked about a remark Obama made about sex education while campaigning in Johnstown in March, when he told a voter he didn't want his daughters "punished with a baby" or "punished with an STD" if they were not educated about sex and made a mistake. "So I listened when our opponent defended his unconditional support for unlimited abortions and he said he said that a woman shouldn't have to be 'Punished with a baby,' " Palin said as the audience jeered at Obama. "Ladies and gentlemen, he said that right here in Johnstown. 'Punished with a baby.' It's about time we called him on it." That's right. McCain-Palin 2008! The cynical and indifferent know not what they miss. For their mistake is an impediment not only to our progress as a civilization but to their happiness as individuals.
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greenpixies said: Stymie said: Posted on CNN today and this is not the whole article:
"A vote for Barack Obama is a vote for activist courts that will continue to smother the open and democratic debate that we deserve and that we need on this issue of life," she said. "Obama is a politician who has long since left behind even the middle ground on the issue of life." Obama opposes any constitutional amendment to overturn the Supreme Court's decision in Roe v. Wade and disagreed with Supreme Court ruling to uphold the "Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act." He did not cast a vote on Prohibiting Funds for Groups that Perform Abortions amendment in 2007. Palin opposes abortion in all cases, including rape and incest, except when a mother's life is in danger, and said she believes Roe v. Wade should be overturned and the decision given to the states. McCain voted for the Prohibit Partial Birth Abortion bill in 2003 and "yes" for Prohibiting Funds for Groups that Perform Abortions amendment in 2007. He believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and also supports the Supreme Court ruling upholding the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act. Palin also talked about a remark Obama made about sex education while campaigning in Johnstown in March, when he told a voter he didn't want his daughters "punished with a baby" or "punished with an STD" if they were not educated about sex and made a mistake. "So I listened when our opponent defended his unconditional support for unlimited abortions and he said he said that a woman shouldn't have to be 'Punished with a baby,' " Palin said as the audience jeered at Obama. "Ladies and gentlemen, he said that right here in Johnstown. 'Punished with a baby.' It's about time we called him on it." That's right. McCain-Palin 2008! How many kids do you have? How many are you responsible for on a daily basis? If you think the fetus is the end all be all, why don't you have one inside you right now? I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: greenpixies said: That's right. McCain-Palin 2008! How many kids do you have? How many are you responsible for on a daily basis? If you think the fetus is the end all be all, why don't you have one inside you right now? Is that your argument for abortion? Whether or not I have a child? So since every pro-lifer may not have a child then the taking of innocent lives should not only be taken advantage of in extreme situations but should be allowed on demand for the sake of convenience. Yikes! By that argument abortion will always be legal. Congratulations! You win. 1.3 million every year just here in the states and counting. Way to speak out for the least of these Supa! And isn't it interesting that the majority of abortions in the US are terminating black babies. How can you be against racism and for abortion at the same time? The cynical and indifferent know not what they miss. For their mistake is an impediment not only to our progress as a civilization but to their happiness as individuals.
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greenpixies said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: How many kids do you have? How many are you responsible for on a daily basis? If you think the fetus is the end all be all, why don't you have one inside you right now? Is that your argument for abortion? Whether or not I have a child? So since every pro-lifer may not have a child then the taking of innocent lives should not only be taken advantage of in extreme situations but should be allowed on demand for the sake of convenience. Yikes! By that argument abortion will always be legal. Congratulations! You win. 1.3 million every year just here in the states and counting. Way to speak out for the least of these Supa! And isn't it interesting that the majority of abortions in the US are terminating black babies. How can you be against racism and for abortion at the same time? I'm for black women having the support and help they need but you are against that so just quit with the bullshit. Your argument that people should give charitably and not be forced is proven to be a failure as believers and the church have done nothing to impact that 1 million figure. You fail. . [Edited 10/13/08 11:53am] I stay Woke.
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greenpixies said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: How many kids do you have? How many are you responsible for on a daily basis? If you think the fetus is the end all be all, why don't you have one inside you right now? Is that your argument for abortion? Whether or not I have a child? So since every pro-lifer may not have a child then the taking of innocent lives should not only be taken advantage of in extreme situations but should be allowed on demand for the sake of convenience. Yikes! By that argument abortion will always be legal. Congratulations! You win. 1.3 million every year just here in the states and counting. Way to speak out for the least of these Supa! And isn't it interesting that the majority of abortions in the US are terminating black babies. How can you be against racism and for abortion at the same time? Because of the Great Depression we are facing, this number is going to quadruple and I couldn't be more thrilled. Less unwanted children in a society that doesn't give a real shit about them is a great thing. I stay Woke.
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thepope2the9s said: so it all comes down to pain.
No, it all comes down to a woman having the right to determine what happens to her body. If the person/animal/or being feels pain it is not okay to kill, if they dont feel pain, have at it!
So killing something that can feel pain is preferable to killing something that can't. That makes you a sadist. Let me ask this. If one believes in evolution, then also they surely must believe in the survival of the fittest? And if so, wouldnt the survivial of the fittest involve those evolving kill others to survive and evolve?
If so, killing a moose or other animal is not so bad as long as it is due to our survival and constant evolution. What a ridiculous argument. The earth isn't going to run out of humans being born anytime soon. "Shake yer reptile, baby!" | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: greenpixies said: Is that your argument for abortion? Whether or not I have a child? So since every pro-lifer may not have a child then the taking of innocent lives should not only be taken advantage of in extreme situations but should be allowed on demand for the sake of convenience. Yikes! By that argument abortion will always be legal. Congratulations! You win. 1.3 million every year just here in the states and counting. Way to speak out for the least of these Supa! And isn't it interesting that the majority of abortions in the US are terminating black babies. How can you be against racism and for abortion at the same time? I'm for black women having the support and help they need but you are against that so just quit with the bullshit. Not true. The cynical and indifferent know not what they miss. For their mistake is an impediment not only to our progress as a civilization but to their happiness as individuals.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: greenpixies said: Is that your argument for abortion? Whether or not I have a child? So since every pro-lifer may not have a child then the taking of innocent lives should not only be taken advantage of in extreme situations but should be allowed on demand for the sake of convenience. Yikes! By that argument abortion will always be legal. Congratulations! You win. 1.3 million every year just here in the states and counting. Way to speak out for the least of these Supa! And isn't it interesting that the majority of abortions in the US are terminating black babies. How can you be against racism and for abortion at the same time? Because of the Great Depression we are facing, this number is going to quadruple and I couldn't be more thrilled. Less unwanted children in a society that doesn't give a real shit about them is a great thing. Not true. The cynical and indifferent know not what they miss. For their mistake is an impediment not only to our progress as a civilization but to their happiness as individuals.
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