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Execs spend bail-out money on spa retreat. We are some bend-over take it in the rear stupid ass suckers. AIG execs hold $440K post-bailout retreat
Sean Lengell Tuesday, October 7, 2008 Top executives at the failed insurance giant AIG spent more than $440,000 at a company retreat days after the federal government bailed out the company with $85 billion in taxpayer funds. American International Group (AIG) paid the exclusive St. Regis resort in Monarch Beach, Calif., more than $200,000 for rooms — some costing as much at $1,000 a night — as well as more than $150,000 in meals, according to released documents an testimony during a hearing of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Tuesday on Capitol Hill. "Less than one week after taxpayers rescued AIG, company executives could be found wining and dining at one of the most exclusive resorts in the nation," said committee Chairman Henry A. Waxman, California Democrat. The invoice also included almost $25,000 in spa and salon charges for pedicures, manicures, facials, massages and other services. "If a company is drowning and you're going to spend that kind of money, that's crazy," said Rep. Elijah E. Cummings, Maryland Democrat, at the hearing's morning session. "The American people are paying for that." No current AIG officials are scheduled to testify at the hearing, though two former company chief executives Martin J. Sullivan and Robert B. Willumstad, are scheduled to appear Tuesday afternoon. Lynn E. Turner, a former chief account with the Securities and Exchange Commission, told the committee that, based on known evidence, executives at AIG or other failed Wall Street firms shouldn't be criminally charged for their actions that lead to their company's financial demise. "I don't think you send people to jail for making bad biz decisions," said Mr. Turner, who was one of two witnesses who testified at the hearing's morning session. But he added that if evidence later reveals that company officials were aware of illegal activities and kept quiet, "Then yes, a little time behind bars might be warranted." Eric R. Dinallo, superintendent of the New York State Insurance Department, told the committee that the industry and regulators should have detected signs earlier that Wall Street practices were detrimental to the overall health of the industry. "It is the case that a lot of us... got wrong what was going to be the default rates, which our global economy hinges on," Mr. Dinallo said. AIG only avoided collapse in September with a $85 billion Treasury loan, stock market losses began to plummet, prompting the Federal Reserve to inject $180 billion into the global market. The company's failure was followed by the most significant Wall Street downturn since the September 11, 2001 terrorists attacks, prompting the Congress last week to approve a Bush administration plan to spend $700 billion to help rescue failing financial institutions. The deal gave the government an 80 percent stake in AIG, the right to remove senior management and to veto payment of dividends to shareholders as ways to protect taxpayers. The hearing was the second in two days that the Oversight Committee held to explore the lead to the recent Wall Street crisis. On Monday, the committee heard testimony that Lehman Brothers doled out more than $20 million in bonuses to top executives just four days before the investment giant declared bankruptcy and accelerated last month Racism is like an insidious virus, that no one has a cure for and can't be seen.....it just keeps reinfecting the weakest minds...
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Now you know why Jesus said it will be easier for a Camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter heaven. They are absolutely shameless. I stay Woke.
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This is the type of shit that'll make a muthafucka snap! "Panamama bringing tha drama, dancing to tha beat!" - Prince
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Okay, so let's see the government fire every last SOB at that "retreat". AND pay back every last penny they spent.
I like this comment someone made in repsonse to the article. This just blows me. The gall they have when people are losing everything they own. What planet do they come from? Racism is like an insidious virus, that no one has a cure for and can't be seen.....it just keeps reinfecting the weakest minds...
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noimageatall said: Okay, so let's see the government fire every last SOB at that "retreat". AND pay back every last penny they spent.
I like this comment someone made in repsonse to the article. This just blows me. The gall they have when people are losing everything they own. What planet do they come from? | |
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and the markets are still tumbling. | |
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Stymie said: noimageatall said: I like this comment someone made in repsonse to the article. This just blows me. The gall they have when people are losing everything they own. What planet do they come from? Well yes, it's very encouraging to those who feel it is their right to steal from the poor to pay the rich. I stay Woke.
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SCNDLS said: This is the type of shit that'll make a muthafucka snap!
And yet I've read so many remarks here about how it's the home-owner's OWN fault for listening to the mortgage company and buying houses they couldn't pay for. They deserve to lose their homes. They were stupid for allowing a predatory lending company to trap them. They should have known better. Yet, these bastards can run their company into the ground, fire people left and right, get huge bonuses, and spend our "welfare" bail-out money going to a spa????? And a woman on welfare with two kids can't even pay her light bill???? WTF has happened to this country? I am so angry right now I could....I just don't even know. Racism is like an insidious virus, that no one has a cure for and can't be seen.....it just keeps reinfecting the weakest minds...
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You have to look at this from a macro level. Technically, AIG is doing nothing wrong. You can make a strong argument that this kind of behaviour isn't financially responsible, but that doesn't make it unethical.
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No comments from anyone who thought this bail-out was a great idea??? Racism is like an insidious virus, that no one has a cure for and can't be seen.....it just keeps reinfecting the weakest minds...
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Nah. Rich execs don't post here. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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noimageatall said: SCNDLS said: This is the type of shit that'll make a muthafucka snap!
And yet I've read so many remarks here about how it's the home-owner's OWN fault for listening to the mortgage company and buying houses they couldn't pay for. They deserve to lose their homes. They were stupid for allowing a predatory lending company to trap them. They should have known better. Yet, these bastards can run their company into the ground, fire people left and right, get huge bonuses, and spend our "welfare" bail-out money going to a spa????? And a woman on welfare with two kids can't even pay her light bill???? WTF has happened to this country? I am so angry right now I could....I just don't even know. that's Capitalism at it's finest. Pigs at the trough. It's truly disgraceful that the same people crying about forcing women to be human incubators are the last ones to come out agains this crap. I stay Woke.
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PurpleKnight said: You have to look at this from a macro level. Technically, AIG is doing nothing wrong. You can make a strong argument that this kind of behaviour isn't financially responsible, but that doesn't make it unethical.
Bingo.The true problem is capitalism itself. The very principles and origin of it make exploitation not just possible, but completely inevitable. When you live in an unjust society, things like this will be commonplace. | |
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that's the REAL redistribution of wealth right there. "a tyranny up with which we dare no longer put!" | |
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IrresistibleB1tch said: that's the REAL redistribution of wealth right there.
Amazingly these rich pigs have managed to convince the poor masses on the right that people are stealing from the rich when nothing of the like is even happening. I stay Woke.
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PurpleKnight said: You have to look at this from a macro level. Technically, AIG is doing nothing wrong. You can make a strong argument that this kind of behaviour isn't financially responsible, but that doesn't make it unethical.
The true problem is capitalism itself. The very principles and origin of it make exploitation not just possible, but completely inevitable. When you live in an unjust society, things like this will be commonplace. I do agree that we as a society have let unchecked capitalism spiral so far out of control, that I don't think we can recover without some drastic changes in our laws and a restructuring of the corporate entity...I don't agree that they are doing nothing wrong. If a welfare mother used her money to go get her hair and nails done, and let her kids go hungry, people would be calling her all kinds of names and saying, "That's what wrong with our society now!" Child Protection Services would take the kids. Her little $300 per month would be stopped. Yet these rich idiots can get away with doing the same thing on a huge scale, and it's not wrong? Incredible. Racism is like an insidious virus, that no one has a cure for and can't be seen.....it just keeps reinfecting the weakest minds...
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: IrresistibleB1tch said: that's the REAL redistribution of wealth right there.
Amazingly these rich pigs have managed to convince the poor masses on the right that people are stealing from the rich when nothing of the like is even happening. How in the fuck can you manage to throw "on the right" into this? I woudn't change a stroke, cause baby I'm the most | |
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noimageatall said: PurpleKnight said: You have to look at this from a macro level. Technically, AIG is doing nothing wrong. You can make a strong argument that this kind of behaviour isn't financially responsible, but that doesn't make it unethical.
The true problem is capitalism itself. The very principles and origin of it make exploitation not just possible, but completely inevitable. When you live in an unjust society, things like this will be commonplace. I do agree that we as a society have let unchecked capitalism spiral so far out of control, that I don't think we can recover without some drastic changes in our laws and a restructuring of the corporate entity...I don't agree that they are doing nothing wrong. If a welfare mother used her money to go get her hair and nails done, and let her kids go hungry, people would be calling her all kinds of names and saying, "That's what wrong with our society now!" Child Protection Services would take the kids. Her little $300 per month would be stopped. Yet these rich idiots can get away with doing the same thing on a huge scale, and it's not wrong? Incredible. | |
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noimageatall said: PurpleKnight said: You have to look at this from a macro level. Technically, AIG is doing nothing wrong. You can make a strong argument that this kind of behaviour isn't financially responsible, but that doesn't make it unethical.
The true problem is capitalism itself. The very principles and origin of it make exploitation not just possible, but completely inevitable. When you live in an unjust society, things like this will be commonplace. I do agree that we as a society have let unchecked capitalism spiral so far out of control, that I don't think we can recover without some drastic changes in our laws and a restructuring of the corporate entity...I don't agree that they are doing nothing wrong. If a welfare mother used her money to go get her hair and nails done, and let her kids go hungry, people would be calling her all kinds of names and saying, "That's what wrong with our society now!" Child Protection Services would take the kids. Her little $300 per month would be stopped. Yet these rich idiots can get away with doing the same thing on a huge scale, and it's not wrong? Incredible. I think you've missed the point of my post. What I'm saying is that capitalism is so unethical as an ideology that things like this fit into it perfectly. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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weused2luvhim said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Amazingly these rich pigs have managed to convince the poor masses on the right that people are stealing from the rich when nothing of the like is even happening. How in the fuck can you manage to throw "on the right" into this? Because you are the ones crying about redistribution of wealth defending the rich, praise deregulation and an unfettered free market, want the government to be a powerless entity and are Capitalism's biggest cheerleaders. That's why. . [Edited 10/7/08 17:02pm] I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: weused2luvhim said: How in the fuck can you manage to throw "on the right" into this? Because you are the ones crying about redistribution of wealth praise deregulation and an unfettered free market, want the government to be a powerless entity and are Capitalism's biggest cheerleaders. That's why. The conservatives on this site crack me up. We are not as dumb as they like to think we are. | |
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PurpleKnight said: noimageatall said: I do agree that we as a society have let unchecked capitalism spiral so far out of control, that I don't think we can recover without some drastic changes in our laws and a restructuring of the corporate entity...I don't agree that they are doing nothing wrong. If a welfare mother used her money to go get her hair and nails done, and let her kids go hungry, people would be calling her all kinds of names and saying, "That's what wrong with our society now!" Child Protection Services would take the kids. Her little $300 per month would be stopped. Yet these rich idiots can get away with doing the same thing on a huge scale, and it's not wrong? Incredible. I think you've missed the point of my post. What I'm saying is that capitalism is so unethical as an ideology that things like this fit into it perfectly. Then I totally agree! Racism is like an insidious virus, that no one has a cure for and can't be seen.....it just keeps reinfecting the weakest minds...
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Stymie said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Because you are the ones crying about redistribution of wealth praise deregulation and an unfettered free market, want the government to be a powerless entity and are Capitalism's biggest cheerleaders. That's why. The conservatives on this site crack me up. We are not as dumb as they like to think we are. It makes me want to stand in mock outrage at the mock outrage! I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Stymie said: The conservatives on this site crack me up. We are not as dumb as they like to think we are. It makes me want to stand in mock outrage at the mock outrage! | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Stymie said: The conservatives on this site crack me up. We are not as dumb as they like to think we are. It makes me want to stand in mock outrage at the mock outrage! "a tyranny up with which we dare no longer put!" | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: weused2luvhim said: How in the fuck can you manage to throw "on the right" into this? Because you are the ones crying about redistribution of wealth defending the rich, praise deregulation and an unfettered free market, want the government to be a powerless entity and are Capitalism's biggest cheerleaders. That's why. . [Edited 10/7/08 17:02pm] That doesn't have a fucking thing to with this thread. Conservatives didn't force or ask these people to spend this money like this. You can come up with whatever bullshit answer you want. But that is a fact. I woudn't change a stroke, cause baby I'm the most | |
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weused2luvhim said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Because you are the ones crying about redistribution of wealth defending the rich, praise deregulation and an unfettered free market, want the government to be a powerless entity and are Capitalism's biggest cheerleaders. That's why. . [Edited 10/7/08 17:02pm] That doesn't have a fucking thing to with this thread. Conservatives didn't force or ask these people to spend this money like this. You can come up with whatever bullshit answer you want. But that is a fact. what people? Let me guess, you're blaming the victim aren't you? I stay Woke.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: weused2luvhim said: That doesn't have a fucking thing to with this thread. Conservatives didn't force or ask these people to spend this money like this. You can come up with whatever bullshit answer you want. But that is a fact. what people? Let me guess, you're blaming the victim aren't you? [ Snip bait - Mach ] I woudn't change a stroke, cause baby I'm the most | |
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weused2luvhim said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: what people? Let me guess, you're blaming the victim aren't you? [ Snip bait - Mach ] [ Snip bait/flame - Mach ] I stay Woke.
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