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Thread started 09/04/08 2:34pm

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Barack admits on O'Reilly, "the surge worked."

This got leaked on the internet, that Barack will say this on Fox tonight.

this could fuck us.

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Reply #1 posted 09/04/08 2:38pm

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If he does I hope it's qualified. It worked for what? to bring down the violence? Yay, then let's bring the troops home since it worked!

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Reply #2 posted 09/04/08 2:41pm

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The thing is, Barack is doing this to look tough, but then he gives points to McCain, who may be winning with the Palin speech. Dumb move.

Not to mention that the surge isn't working. We are paying our old enemies not to kill the Shia, and paying the Shia militias not to kill the Sunni. This farce will not last, at least according to Nir Rosen, who is a top expert on the middle east.

Obama can't give Mccain these freebies, especially when he is wrong.

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Reply #3 posted 09/04/08 2:42pm

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2freaky4church1 said:

The thing is, Barack is doing this to look tough, but then he gives points to McCain, who may be winning with the Palin speech. Dumb move.

Not to mention that the surge isn't working. We are paying our old enemies not to kill the Shia, and paying the Shia militias not to kill the Sunni. This farce will not last, at least according to Nir Rosen, who is a top expert on the middle east.

Obama can't give Mccain these freebies, especially when he is wrong.

I agree.

I stay Woke.

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Reply #4 posted 09/04/08 2:42pm

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I'm still keeping my pants on.

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Reply #5 posted 09/04/08 2:46pm

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If the surged worked, then why can't our servicemen come home victorious?
Obama can't be perfect, he can be wrong.
He was right about a timetable though.
He was right about Iraq being a distraction.
He was right about talking with Iran.
He was right about Iran not being as big a threat as Russia.

I can handle more right than wrong better than one right and everything else wrong.

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Reply #6 posted 09/04/08 2:55pm

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I'll wait to see what he says and why he says it before I start wringing my hands.

YES WE DID!!! President Barack Obama!!!

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Reply #7 posted 09/04/08 3:33pm

lascantas

So what if the surge worked? This doesn't change anything really. It doesn't solve anything really.

The point is that we had no business going over there in the first place! The point is that we were misled by the Bush Administration!

Why are people so quick to forget?

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Reply #8 posted 09/04/08 3:35pm

Stymie

Does anyone stop to think the "surge" worked because there are less people to kill?

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Reply #9 posted 09/04/08 3:56pm

wonder505

who cares about a surge, this is what concerns me:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...y_suicides

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Reply #10 posted 09/04/08 4:03pm

Stymie

wonder505 said:

who cares about a surge, this is what concerns me:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...y_suicides
I was just reading that a few minutes ago.

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Reply #11 posted 09/04/08 4:08pm

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The surge is a success in part to the agreement reached with Sunni's and Shiites not to fight us or each other. I was listening to NPR today and the Sunni's were saying that the Americans were protecting them from the Shia and that the Shia are going around and arresting these people who have otherwise helped to reduce the violence.

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Reply #12 posted 09/04/08 5:49pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

The surge is a success in part to the agreement reached with Sunni's and Shiites not to fight us or each other. I was listening to NPR today and the Sunni's were saying that the Americans were protecting them from the Shia and that the Shia are going around and arresting these people who have otherwise helped to reduce the violence.



okay i just watched the clip and he mentioned what you said and that even though the surge worked, there is still no plan for the Iraqis to take on more responsibility and we continue to pour money into the war when they have a surplus.

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Reply #13 posted 09/04/08 5:55pm

lascantas

wonder505 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

The surge is a success in part to the agreement reached with Sunni's and Shiites not to fight us or each other. I was listening to NPR today and the Sunni's were saying that the Americans were protecting them from the Shia and that the Shia are going around and arresting these people who have otherwise helped to reduce the violence.



okay i just watched the clip and he mentioned what you said and that even though the surge worked, there is still no plan for the Iraqis to take on more responsibility and we continue to pour money into the war when they have a surplus.



I watched it, too, but why doesn't Obama throw it back at Bill? The point is that we SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION. It is NOT our "war," our conflict.

I am really getting worried.. We Dems are so much into giving people a chance that we are shooting ourselves in the foot.

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Reply #14 posted 09/04/08 6:16pm

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lascantas said:

wonder505 said:




okay i just watched the clip and he mentioned what you said and that even though the surge worked, there is still no plan for the Iraqis to take on more responsibility and we continue to pour money into the war when they have a surplus.



I watched it, too, but why doesn't Obama throw it back at Bill? The point is that we SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION. It is NOT our "war," our conflict.

I am really getting worried.. We Dems are so much into giving people a chance that we are shooting ourselves in the foot.


O'Reilly is a windbag who only likes to hear himself speak. He spits out rapid-fire questions and interrupts while his guests are still talking so he can appear "hard-hitting." He needs to do that so the viewers who keep him in the elite lifestyle he's become accustomed to will think he's a tough interviewer. The truth is, both he and Obama know full well that the situation in Iran is complicated and doesn't easily boil down to a quick sound bite, and that's what O'Reilly loves most, because the second someone tries to answer the question seriously, he can act like they're equivocating. I think Obama handled himself well in the situation, all things considered.

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Reply #15 posted 09/04/08 6:43pm

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Does anybody have a link to the interview, or a clip from it? I can't find it.

Here is Obama after the interview. It's obvious that he's made a strategic decision to stay focused on McCain, and just brush off Palin. It's probably the right thing to do, but I wish he could at least once take her apart completely and then be done with it.

In general though, I think he handles himself really well in this clip. He's clear and aggressive but refrains from Republican-style cheap shots.

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Reply #16 posted 09/04/08 6:54pm

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lascantas said:


I watched it, too, but why doesn't Obama throw it back at Bill? The point is that we SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION. It is NOT our "war," our conflict.


He said nothing at all about that? That's hugely disappointing, and surprising too considering that one of his most recurring soundbytes so far has been "a war that should have never been authorized and should have never been waged".

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Reply #17 posted 09/04/08 7:11pm

lascantas

retina said:

lascantas said:


I watched it, too, but why doesn't Obama throw it back at Bill? The point is that we SHOULDN'T BE IN THIS SITUATION. It is NOT our "war," our conflict.


He said nothing at all about that? That's hugely disappointing, and surprising too considering that one of his most recurring soundbytes so far has been "a war that should have never been authorized and should have never been waged".


He alluded to it, but is was not the "outstanding"part of his response.

The point it that it's great we are making the best of a bad situation: but we should NOT have gotten into this situation in the first place!

And yes, I agree with the preceding poster. I guess there is no winning with O'Reilly because he is going to spin it all his way no matter what. At least O' Reilly can say, Obama had the guts to come on his show.. so.... smile

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Reply #18 posted 09/04/08 7:17pm

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retina said:[quote]Does anybody have a link to the interview, or a clip from it? I can't find it.

Here is Obama after the interview. It's obvious that he's made a strategic decision to stay focused on McCain, and just brush off Palin. It's probably the right thing to do, but I wish he could at least once take her apart completely and then be done with it.

In general though, I think he handles himself really well in this clip. He's clear and aggressive but refrains from Republican-style cheap shots.


It could never only be once. It only end up as a video here.

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Reply #19 posted 09/04/08 7:31pm

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what? he changed his mind?!

well, like Giuliani said last night, obama changed his mind and broke his word so many times, that "if I were Joe Biden, I'd want to get that V.P. thing in writing."

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Reply #20 posted 09/04/08 7:37pm

lascantas

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what? he changed his mind?!

well, like Giuliani said last night, obama changed his mind and broke his word so many times, that "if I were Joe Biden, I'd want to get that V.P. thing in writing."

lol


Oh c'mon as if McCain hasn't "changed his mind." Or is it that you conservatives like to use the word "evolved" for flip flopping?

Give me a break.

What... is McCain above changing his mind?

Hey.. let me ask you this: why is that McCain has this sense of "entitlement" to the presidency of the U.S. because he is a "war hero"? So becauce he is a "war hero"-- a former prisoner of war.. he is entitled to be president of the U.S.?

I am sick of this "war hero" b.s.
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Reply #21 posted 09/04/08 8:55pm

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lascantas said:

HiinEnkelte said:

what? he changed his mind?!

well, like Giuliani said last night, obama changed his mind and broke his word so many times, that "if I were Joe Biden, I'd want to get that V.P. thing in writing."

lol


Oh c'mon as if McCain hasn't "changed his mind." Or is it that you conservatives like to use the word "evolved" for flip flopping?

Give me a break.

What... is McCain above changing his mind?





Hey.. let me ask you this: why is that McCain has this sense of "entitlement" to the presidency of the U.S. because he is a "war hero"? So becauce he is a "war hero"-- a former prisoner of war.. he is entitled to be president of the U.S.?

I am sick of this "war hero" b.s.
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