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Black Church vs. Redneck Shop

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Black Church vs. 'Redneck Shop' Battle Continues
AP
Posted: 2008-09-03 15:39:22
Filed Under: Top News

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- A black South Carolina pastor and his church claim they own the building that houses a so-called Klan museum and store where KKK robes and T-shirts emblazoned with racial slurs are sold, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday.




APThe Rev. David Kennedy said the property was transferred in 1997 to his Laurens County church by a Klansman who was fighting with others inside the hate group. A clause in the deed entitles John Howard, a man who runs the store, to operate his business in the building until he dies.

Kennedy said he'd like to close the store, but at the very least should be allowed to inspect the property.

"We've been outright denied," said Kennedy, pastor of New Beginnings Baptist Church. "Right now what we're focusing on is removing this cloud of doubt and this whole lie that we are not the real owners of the Redneck Shop building."

The lawsuit seeks to establish Kennedy's church as the legal owner of the property and stop Howard and associates from claiming to hold the deed.

According to the lawsuit, Howard and his associates have filed several court documents since the property was given to Kennedy's church that attempt to transfer the deed between various Klan-related owners, ignoring the church's claim.

"We think the actions they did were willful," said Kennedy's attorney Rauch Wise.

Howard, who calls himself a former Ku Klux Klan grand dragon for South Carolina and North Carolina, said Tuesday he hadn't heard of the lawsuit and hang up the phone on an AP reporter.

The Redneck Shop has been the target of protests and attacks since it began operating in an old movie theater in 1996. A few days after it opened, a Columbia man crashed his van through the front windows of store and was charged with malicious damage to property. High profile black activists have staged several protests outside the Redneck Shop.

Inside the store, hooded Klan robes hang on the same rack as racist T-shirts. Pamphlets and pictures of burning crosses and of men, women and children in Klan clothing tell a partial history of the organization.

Kennedy has led protests outside the store since it opened but said he's never been able to close it because of the agreement that Howard can run the shop for life.

He hopes the building will one day be the home for his New Beginnings Missionary Baptist Church, which now meets in a doublewide trailer.

"Martin Luther King said this: 'The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice,"' Kennedy said. "It's going to be a good day to see them in court."


hmmm I wonder what Obama paraphernalia they have?

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Reply #1 posted 09/04/08 11:09am

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MuthaFunka said:

http://www.blackvoices.co...neck-shop-
Black Church vs. 'Redneck Shop' Battle Continues
AP
Posted: 2008-09-03 15:39:22
Filed Under: Top News

COLUMBIA, S.C. -- A black South Carolina pastor and his church claim they own the building that houses a so-called Klan museum and store where KKK robes and T-shirts emblazoned with racial slurs are sold, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday.




APThe Rev. David Kennedy said the property was transferred in 1997 to his Laurens County church by a Klansman who was fighting with others inside the hate group. A clause in the deed entitles John Howard, a man who runs the store, to operate his business in the building until he dies.

Kennedy said he'd like to close the store, but at the very least should be allowed to inspect the property.

"We've been outright denied," said Kennedy, pastor of New Beginnings Baptist Church. "Right now what we're focusing on is removing this cloud of doubt and this whole lie that we are not the real owners of the Redneck Shop building."

The lawsuit seeks to establish Kennedy's church as the legal owner of the property and stop Howard and associates from claiming to hold the deed.

According to the lawsuit, Howard and his associates have filed several court documents since the property was given to Kennedy's church that attempt to transfer the deed between various Klan-related owners, ignoring the church's claim.

"We think the actions they did were willful," said Kennedy's attorney Rauch Wise.

Howard, who calls himself a former Ku Klux Klan grand dragon for South Carolina and North Carolina, said Tuesday he hadn't heard of the lawsuit and hang up the phone on an AP reporter.

The Redneck Shop has been the target of protests and attacks since it began operating in an old movie theater in 1996. A few days after it opened, a Columbia man crashed his van through the front windows of store and was charged with malicious damage to property. High profile black activists have staged several protests outside the Redneck Shop.

Inside the store, hooded Klan robes hang on the same rack as racist T-shirts. Pamphlets and pictures of burning crosses and of men, women and children in Klan clothing tell a partial history of the organization.

Kennedy has led protests outside the store since it opened but said he's never been able to close it because of the agreement that Howard can run the shop for life.

He hopes the building will one day be the home for his New Beginnings Missionary Baptist Church, which now meets in a doublewide trailer.

"Martin Luther King said this: 'The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice,"' Kennedy said. "It's going to be a good day to see them in court."


hmmm I wonder what Obama paraphernalia they have?


confused ..
I hate to imagine.



This comes to mind when Dubya'lived here in Dallas:

When he bought his Dallas home in 1988, the deed stipulated that it could be occupied "by white persons only, excluding bona fide servants of any race." When he sold it just after being elected governor of Texas in 1996, the clause was still there. He claims not to have known about it and, now that he knows, not to be concerned because such restrictions have long been unenforceable thanks to a 1948 Supreme Court decision, the 1968 Fair Housing Act and many subsequent state statutes.

Seems like every redneck klansman from the Carolina's or Texas lay claim to being former kkk "GRAND DRAG QUEENS" when they've been exposed.

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Reply #2 posted 09/04/08 11:11am

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StarMon said:

MuthaFunka said:

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hmmm I wonder what Obama paraphernalia they have?


confused ..
I hate to imagine.



This comes to mind when Dubya'lived here in Dallas:

When he bought his Dallas home in 1988, the deed stipulated that it could be occupied "by white persons only, excluding bona fide servants of any race." When he sold it just after being elected governor of Texas in 1996, the clause was still there. He claims not to have known about it and, now that he knows, not to be concerned because such restrictions have long been unenforceable thanks to a 1948 Supreme Court decision, the 1968 Fair Housing Act and many subsequent state statutes.

Seems like every redneck klansman from the Carolina's or Texas lay claim to being former kkk "GRAND DRAG QUEENS" when they've been exposed.


Wow. Damn shame.

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A black pastor is trying to claim a racist store? can't you see the humor?

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LittlePaisleyCorvette said:

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A black pastor is trying to claim a racist store? can't you see the humor?


No, sorry I can't.

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Reply #7 posted 09/04/08 8:15pm

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lol

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LittlePaisleyCorvette said:

StarMon said:


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A black pastor is trying to claim a racist store? can't you see the humor?


Wow. Someone JUUUUUST doesn't get it, do they? comfort

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Reply #9 posted 09/04/08 9:25pm

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The Klan loves burning things.

I'm sure most of the items in that store are flammable.

That's all I'm saying...

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Reply #10 posted 09/04/08 11:03pm

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hmmm Operate business until the owner dies huh? How old is that guy? Can't someone just hire him a young athletic hooker to speed the process? Give that mofo a heart attack or something? Just a thought. shrug

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Reply #11 posted 09/05/08 12:42am

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disbelief a shame ...

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LittlePaisleyCorvette said:

StarMon said:


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A black pastor is trying to claim a racist store? can't you see the humor?

i can't see it. but I'm sure you'll be able to explain it. unless of course you're just a stupid troll

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Why is it legal to sell stuff like that in the US? Isn't it legal as well to sell Nazi objects? I don't get it shrug. I cannot say we in Austria have learned that much from our history, but at least it is forbidden by law to own or sell anything that has to do with the symbols of the nazi regime as well as to use certain slogans or lie about what they were about.

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Serious said:

Why is it legal to sell stuff like that in the US? Isn't it legal as well to sell Nazi objects? I don't get it shrug. I cannot say we in Austria have learned that much from our history, but at least it is forbidden by law to own or sell anything that has to do with the symbols of the nazi regime as well as to use certain slogans or lie about what they were about.


i don't understand the law down there confuse .. building was transferred to the church, they have ownership, but yet 'a clause' says another has authority to what they want... i don't get that..

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Mars23 said:

The Klan loves burning things.

I'm sure most of the items in that store are flammable.

That's all I'm saying...


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Mars23 said:

The Klan loves burning things.

I'm sure most of the items in that store are flammable.

That's all I'm saying...


Yeah, but when you stoop down to their level, you're degrading yourself. By adhering to the law and following procedure, the owners are demonstrating the type of class and composure that the ignorant bigots hate to see. The KKK would love NOTHING MORE than to see a black mob burn down the joint, so they could point and say; "You see? We told you! Those people are animals!" Instead however, they get to sit there and fester over the thought of a black organization having ownership of their building. It must be KILLING them!!!

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PurpleJedi said:

Mars23 said:

The Klan loves burning things.

I'm sure most of the items in that store are flammable.

That's all I'm saying...


Yeah, but when you stoop down to their level, you're degrading yourself. By adhering to the law and following procedure, the owners are demonstrating the type of class and composure that the ignorant bigots hate to see. The KKK would love NOTHING MORE than to see a black mob burn down the joint, so they could point and say; "You see? We told you! Those people are animals!" Instead however, they get to sit there and fester over the thought of a black organization having ownership of their building. It must be KILLING them!!!

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lol No they won't. TRUST me on that one! They'd HATE to see a black person do to them what they've been doing to Blacks since forever.

Oh, and they ALREADY think Blacks are animals, so a Black person getting a Harvard degree or eating off the floor is just the same to them.

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Reply #18 posted 09/06/08 12:45pm

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MuthaFunka said:

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Yeah, but when you stoop down to their level, you're degrading yourself. By adhering to the law and following procedure, the owners are demonstrating the type of class and composure that the ignorant bigots hate to see. The KKK would love NOTHING MORE than to see a black mob burn down the joint, so they could point and say; "You see? We told you! Those people are animals!" Instead however, they get to sit there and fester over the thought of a black organization having ownership of their building. It must be KILLING them!!!

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lol No they won't. TRUST me on that one! They'd HATE to see a black person do to them what they've been doing to Blacks since forever.

Oh, and they ALREADY think Blacks are animals, so a Black person getting a Harvard degree or eating off the floor is just the same to them.


hmmm
I can see what you're saying...but I somehow think that by NOT acting out as THEY would expect you to, their twisted views lose credibility.

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