Capital Punishment.

Do you believe in capital punishment? I believe in it, it depends on the crime, but we have to get our courts in order and decrease the racial biasness. Also, we all know that the more money you have the better legal representation you'll get.

no, i don't believe in it at all. i don't believe we have the right to play god, and i don't understand how we're sending a society a lesson that killing is the ultimate wrong by turning around and killing someone for their crime. furthermore, i think if you're rich enough, you can kill all you like and buy a get out of jail free card. capital punishment only effects the people who can't afford to weasel their way out of court.

oh, and if someone is put to death and later found to have been innocent...there's no such thing as UN-killing someone.


no, i don't believe in it at all.

I have mixed feeling on the subject.

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Purple123 said:

wrong forum and nope i dont believe in it..

let that mf'er rot in prison, why give them the easy way out..

Absolutely not.

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No

Anxiety said:

Nope.

nope. woe to the executioner.

would u rather have a novice at matters of the heart....or an expert lover?....then don't complain and appreciate this.....

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i don't believe that we can show someone that violating the rights of others is wrong by violating their rights right back.

that's why i don't believe in prisons or a police force either.
all force against another's being and will is wrong.

also cuz juries are never perfect,
we could possibly put away somebody for 10 years for a crime he or she didn't do.

let's say you find out he/she was innocent* 1 week into his or her sentence...

how in the world could you ever give them that week back?

nuh uh, no way, i don't believe in it.





*or let's even say, by the same burden of proof that the convicted was found to be innocent, we again find out 3 weeks later in light of new data that he or she really really was guilty after all (if you just assume that no newer data will later exonerate him/her). then you sentence him/her back, and the whole thing could just get to be like something that's obviously not trustworthy.

force is never the answer.
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I don't believe in it. I believe in God and believe He will take care of wicked people. Man should not judge who lives and who dies. Also, there have been over 500 cases where those convicted of murder have been found not guilty later. We as a country have executed innocent people

I due believe in putting someone in prison for the rest of their life

HiinEnkelte said:

evenstar3 said:

HiinEnkelte said:

i don't believe that we can show someone that violating the rights of others is wrong by violating their rights right back.

that's why i don't believe in prisons or a police force either.
all force against another's being and will is wrong.

also cuz juries are never perfect,
we could possibly put away somebody for 10 years for a crime he or she didn't do.

let's say you find out he/she was innocent* 1 week into his or her sentence...

how in the world could you ever give them that week back?

nuh uh, no way, i don't believe in it.





*or let's even say, by the same burden of proof that the convicted was found to be innocent, we again find out 3 weeks later in light of new data that he or she really really was guilty after all (if you just assume that no newer data will later exonerate him/her). then you sentence him/her back, and the whole thing could just get to be like something that's obviously not trustworthy.

force is never the answer.
[Edited 8/28/08 21:28pm]

the same old ridiculous veiled argument as usual, eh?

HiinEnkelte said:

evenstar3 said:

the same old ridiculous veiled argument as usual, eh?

why do you always respond to it, only to show that you have no way to respond to it without simultaneously destroying any argument that you might make against capital punishment, and at least a few other issues.

c'mon evenstar. try. try to show it is ridiculous without showing your own position is ridiculous. i would really love to see you try.

evenstar3 said:

HiinEnkelte said:

why do you always respond to it, only to show that you have no way to respond to it without simultaneously destroying any argument that you might make against capital punishment, and at least a few other issues.

c'mon evenstar. try. try to show it is ridiculous without showing your own position is ridiculous. i would really love to see you try.

you already know what the crux of it is- you cannot revoke the decision to take someone's life.

HiinEnkelte said:

evenstar3 said:

you already know what the crux of it is- you cannot revoke the decision to take someone's life.

sure you can. people do it all the time. and call of the hitman, etc.

you mean you cannot undo taking away someone's life, right?

(and like i said then your position on at least one other major issue is now laughable).

evenstar3 said:

HiinEnkelte said:

sure you can. people do it all the time. and call of the hitman, etc.

you mean you cannot undo taking away someone's life, right?

(and like i said then your position on at least one other major issue is now laughable).

unless there's a zombie infestation, people aren't coming back from the dead.

and what position would that be? i wasn't aware i had fans following my views so closely!

HiinEnkelte said:[quote]

evenstar3 said:

reading comprehension does a mind good. one can revoke a decision to kill without having killed. that's why i jokingly asked you more specifically.

and what position would that be? i wasn't aware i had fans following my views so closely!

your pro-legal abortion position, but opposing the legality of capital punishment.

HiinEnkelte said:[quote]

evenstar3 said:

reading comprehension does a mind good. one can revoke a decision to kill without having killed. that's why i jokingly asked you more specifically.

and what position would that be? i wasn't aware i had fans following my views so closely!

your pro-legal abortion position, but opposing the legality of capital punishment.

SUPRMAN said:

What does it solve exactly? How does it redress the situation [a specific crime committed or crime in society in general]?

Purple123 said:

HiinEnkelte said:

I believe that Capital Punishment occurs.

I also believe it is most likely to be used on political undesirables as opposed to actual criminals.

I'd go so far to say the taking of a life as punishment, however it's framed, says more about the society than the executed.

HiinEnkelte said:[quote]

evenstar3 said:

you already know what the crux of it is- you cannot revoke the decision to take someone's life.

Anxiety said:

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For some odd reason my conscience seems to accept the idea of taking the life of a child rapist, who then murdered his victim, as opposed to the idea of taking the life of an unborn human, who has committed no crimes.

Accujack said:

Let me put this simply, if I saw someone kill my mother, or sister or nephew, they die. Point blank. That's why I said it depends on the crime.