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Venus of Willendorf still hot at ripe old age of 25,000

VIENNA (AFP) — Plump and 25,000 years old, this lady remains a mystery even after 100 years in the limelight.

The Venus of Willendorf, a small ochre-coloured figurine from the Paleolithic period, takes her name from the village in northern Austria where she was excavated on August 7, 1908 by three Austrian paleontologists.

"This was the first statuette (from this period) that had such detailed features and it was also the first statuette to be discovered at the time on an archeological site," says Walpurga Antl-Weiser, head of the prehistory section at Vienna's Natural History Museum.

On the 100th anniversary of her excavation, this Venus is being honoured with a special exhibition at the museum, alongside other artefacts from the same period.

Carved from oolitic limestone, she is a round woman, standing with her arms resting on her breasts and belly, her bowed head hiding her face but showing off elaborate hair.

"This statue is really remarkable and when you look at the way she was carved, the way the muscles and different parts of the body are rendered, you can tell the sculptor used a model," says Antl-Weiser.

This Venus "resulted from perfect observation of the human body, but she was also arranged to make her curves more harmonious," she adds.

The first and only statuette of her kind before the French Venus of Lespugue and the Russian Venus of Kostienki joined her two decades later, the lady from Willendorf can still attract crowds.

"I think a lot of visitors come to the museum just to see the Venus," says Antl-Weiser.

But where she came from and whether she represented a goddess or women's elevated place in society remains a mystery.

"We don't think she represented prehistoric women," says Antl-Weiser.

"She's a rather older woman, one who has certainly already had children," she explains.

"Moreover, we can't prove that women played a predominant role during this period and that these female statuettes honoured them: there are many other statuettes (from that period) representing animals, part-humans and part-animals or assexual human beings."

Rather than being a goddess, the Venus of Willendorf could have been part of a ritual or a belief shared by several tribes over 20,000 years ago.

Although excavated at opposite ends of the continent, the French and Russian Venuses are similar in form to their Austrian sister.

"They could have been expressions of a single belief that spread through Europe," says Antl-Weiser.

But this does not explain where the lady from Willendorf came from.

While other artefacts and statuettes were excavated near the same village in Lower Austria, no traces remain of the rock out of which she was carved.

Antl-Weiser concludes: "From that point of view, either the Venus was brought here, or the rock fragments disappeared when a railroad was built there in the 19th century."

The exhibition runs to February 1.

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Reply #1 posted 08/22/08 7:40am

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A little short for my tastes.



That's almost actual size.
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Mars23 said:

A little short for my tastes.

[ photo here ]

That's almost actual size.



At least she wasn't to old for ya wink

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Reply #3 posted 08/22/08 9:04am

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Reply #4 posted 08/22/08 9:07am

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A thread about one of the most famous pieces of art from my home country woot!! I remember I learned about her in school nod.

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Serious said:

A thread about one of the most famous pieces of art from my home country woot!! I remember I learned about her in school nod.


I did too - in all of my art history courses. She's a famous lady!

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eek Nudity on the org!!!!



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applekisses said:

Serious said:

A thread about one of the most famous pieces of art from my home country woot!! I remember I learned about her in school nod.


I did too - in all of my art history courses. She's a famous lady!

Good to know biggrin . When you learn is school about "local things" (sorry but I can't explain it better) it's sometimes difficult to know how much of an interest they are to people from abroad.

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Reply #8 posted 08/23/08 10:22am

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Serious said:

applekisses said:



I did too - in all of my art history courses. She's a famous lady!

Good to know biggrin . When you learn is school about "local things" (sorry but I can't explain it better) it's sometimes difficult to know how much of an interest they are to people from abroad.


Oh, she's everywhere. smile

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applekisses said:

Serious said:


Good to know biggrin . When you learn is school about "local things" (sorry but I can't explain it better) it's sometimes difficult to know how much of an interest they are to people from abroad.


Oh, she's everywhere. smile



Yes she is biggrin

Rightfullly so too wink

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Reply #10 posted 08/24/08 1:54pm

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Mach said:

applekisses said:



Oh, she's everywhere. smile



Yes she is biggrin

Rightfullly so too wink

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Reply #11 posted 08/24/08 2:27pm

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Is that a hat she's wearing? Or braided hair?

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noimageatall said:

Is that a hat she's wearing? Or braided hair?



The Venus is not a realistic portrait but rather an idealization of the female figure. Her vulva, breasts, and swollen belly, are heavily pronounced, suggesting a strong connection to fertility. Her tiny arms are folded over her breasts. The figure has no visible face, her head being covered with circular horizontal bands of what might be rows of plaited hair, or a type of headdress.

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Mach said:

noimageatall said:

Is that a hat she's wearing? Or braided hair?



The Venus is not a realistic portrait but rather an idealization of the female figure. Her vulva, breasts, and swollen belly, are heavily pronounced, suggesting a strong connection to fertility. Her tiny arms are folded over her breasts. The figure has no visible face, her head being covered with circular horizontal bands of what might be rows of plaited hair, or a type of headdress.


Thanks mach. I thought it looked like braids.

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noimageatall said:

Mach said:




The Venus is not a realistic portrait but rather an idealization of the female figure. Her vulva, breasts, and swollen belly, are heavily pronounced, suggesting a strong connection to fertility. Her tiny arms are folded over her breasts. The figure has no visible face, her head being covered with circular horizontal bands of what might be rows of plaited hair, or a type of headdress.


Thanks mach. I thought it looked like braids.


It does

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