Is there one true church?

We are all well aware that there are so many denominations that exist. So many people believe this way and that way...but is there really a one true church or a true doctrine/teaching that guarantees salvation?

-I'd like to share some thoughts, beliefs, and opinions with you guys!

The church of God. Islam, Christianity, Catholicism, Buddhism, and Judaism all believe in the same God. So I believe that is the true religion.

superman said:

The church of my ass, worship it.

lazycrockett said:

The church of my ass, worship it.

Only when there are as many belief systems as there are believers will we be able to ask that question, until then it's not a legitimate question...

The reason why it's not a legitimate question, is because there is no way to provide empirical proof that such a question would entail.

eaglebear4839 said:

Fritzy said:

yes i believe there is one true church, its in the sacred heart and the sacred mind ~ it is the glue that holds the whole universe together.

it is L.O.V.E. ~ and if you combine that with humility then you really got sumthin goin on that no one can shake..

salvation for me is in the release of fear, and L.O.V.E is the cure, which comes through the heart and the mind at the same time, like driving a car made of silk...the ride is really smooth.

...^^^ call me..

KidaSaurusRx said:

...^^^ call me..

No, and I think that idea has been the biggest source of violence and suffering for the past several thousand years.

i was kiding earlier, but i sorta agree wit the concept of their being one truth.

God, from the begining, was the one truth. but since we as mortals were unable to grasp or understand or know him, he put himself in the form of a man to show and teach those who didn't beleive in him, or know him.



so, now we have a man, who is a representative of god, with a mind, a body and a soul. I don't know if i would say there is one true church because i cannot judge through god's eyes of what he would require from a church.



I can say that there is one truth. and what that truth is for you may be different, but god may see us both as true.


now, the issue is whether or not we are right or righteous.....


for example.

It may be true that i am a theif, for instance.

my spirit(the mind), my body(the heart) and my soul(only you and god know), may all line up and say that I am a theif. If that is what i am, what i do and how i live, then saying i'm a thief would be true.


But, even if it is true, does that mean it's right to be a theif????? ...does man think so, does god??? ...does the law think so???

so before we can certainly attempt to say what a person or church or situation is.....we better know, with NO speculation that persons, mind, body and soul. If not, you will find me backin up something fierce.



My soul belongs to the truth, the spirit is my guide, and my body is the teacher.







do you wanna play god today?????




He's a bad mamma-jamma!!! ...

eaglebear4839 said:

So many people say that they can find salvation within themselves and an array of other belief systems. But I pose the question what salvation are we talking about?

- I'm referring to salvation in Christ. According to Matthew 16:18 Jesus is speaking to Peter, it reads, " And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it."

It's pretty clear from God's word that it states "My church", which shows ownership of something. Like if I say my sweater or my car, then that means it belongs to me and me alone. Christ is saying it's my church. He doesn't say churches or this or that person's church. In my mind, this implies that there is only 1 true church in Christ. Does it not?

...alright then, replace my with the and then debate.....





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Fritzy said:

Fritzy said:

LittleRedCorvette said:

Paul/Saul manipulated and ruined the message of jesus.

The one true church is in your heart, if god exists he would contact you thru your mind and not by beeing forced on by others.

In my opinion, it's all speculation. People may argue faith and all, we all have to believe in something, even if that belief is in nothing at all. It's what gets us through our lives. But the fact is, other than near death experiences, which don't last for that long, no one that I've ever known in my life that has died has come back to tell me where they're at. Now, my mother said that about two year after my uncle died, one night late at night she woke up for no reason, looked in her mirror and saw his face looking at her smiling, as if to say to her, "Im fine. I'm doing ok. This is a looooong conversation, but just know that the Bible, when you read it, if that's what you believe in, if you've read it, you're not reading the whole thing. Some odd thousand years ago, there was a meeting to decide what books would be in the Bible and what books wouldn't make it. And also, if you really look into all the religions, they all have alot more in common than you think, it's just that people want to divid themselves because they don't agree with what's being tought to them, that's why they go on and make their own religion or they'll take parts of that reliogion and make it fit to thier own beliefes.

I'm a spiritualist, I don't go to church, because I believe that you are the temple. It's ultimately depends on your own individual relationship with God, because no church is going to go with you. It's going to be you by yourself. Even if you die with someone you love, I still believe that you cross over by your self. People who are really religious or people who don't believe in God at all. I don't have a problem with any of them. What's funny to me is that in every religion, if you were to speak to them about what's the true religion, every clue they give as far as what's the right religion,ironically will be everything that they're saying is theirs. It's also funny that alot of people don't even think about God until they get in some kind of trouble, THEEEN they want to pray to Him, or Her (depending on what you believe.) I believe that no matter how your day is going, always say thank you to what ever God you believe in.

The bottom line is you really won't know where you're going until you die. People may try to argue that this isn't true, but it's true.

There's so any religions that are based in fear, if you don't this, you'll go here, and so on. But even they don't know where they're going, they HOPE that what they believe in will get them to where people have taught them that they will go, but they don't KNOW this for a fact. And facts are different than faith and beliefs.

And then, some people look at what they read in whatever they as literal, others believe that what they read in whatever they is interpreted as a message and is a moral story. Then that opens up a whole new can of worms, because now you have two people in the same religion that completely disagree with eachother and will argue their point until the cows come home.
[Edited 8/17/08 1:00am]

byronic said:

If U R refering to a "Christian" Church, then we need to find the requirements of its teachings in harmony with Jesus Christ's teachings.

Do to so, we need to refer ourselves in the Bible and back up statements with scriptures and not "i believe" as it is according to God's will, not our's.

We will then see who, among the "church goers" apply what is taught in that "Church/denomination"

- Matt 5:44 Love your ennemy
The True church/denomination will not take part in any political activity and encourage its followers to be neutral, as every form of goverment rules over an enemy killing army. Against Christ teachings.

- John 8:44 Devil father of lies
The True Church/denomination will teach its followers to take no part in politics as we know they lie and slander all the time, regardless of the party.

- luke 11:1-2 Lord's/Model Prayer -Our father in heaven, let your name be sanctified, let your kingdom come...
Asked by a disciple, Jesus taught how to pray, and as we know Jesus did make random statements, he explained that #1 we pray TO the Father, #2 we sanctify His name (God Almighty's name), then pray for Go'd kingdom to come. This is the order of priorities that we need to address God, according to Jesus Christ.

John 17:26: I have made Your name known, and will make it known, so that the love with which you love me, may be in them, and I in union with them.
Jesus is praying to His Heavenly Father, and in his LAST statement in that prayer, he explains that Jesus made his Father's name known, so that their can be a union between his followers and Jesus and God Almighty, our Heavenly Father.
So the True Church/Denomination would teach what is God's name in harmony with what Jesus taught.

- Col 1:24 Body of Christ is the Church/Congregation
- Col 2:19 Body of Christ (Church/Denomination/Congregation) must be in union and harmony like a fleshly body.

This shows that the True Church must be in communication with each church of its denomination like every organ of a body is linked with same nervous system.
This shows that it would have same teachings, same Bible based views on every matter, politics, marriage, beliefs, baptism, etc

Matt 24:14 And the good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all nations and then the end will come.

This shows that this Church MUST be global and put extensif effort to preach the Good News to all peoples of ALL the nations in ALL the lands. But being global, DOES NOT mean that from one country to the next the traditions, teachings and so on and so forth change. Global united message.

-John 14:15 IF you love me you will observe my commandements.

-John 14:21 He that has my commandements AND observes them that one loves me. In turn he that loves me will be loved by my Father and I will love him etc

-John 15:14 You are my friends IF you DO what I am commanding you.

The True Church/Denomination would NOT take it lightly to follow closely the commandements of Jesus. That church would teach AND encourage VERY actively what Jesus taught and commanded as Jesus views this as a CONDITION of OUR love TOWARDS him.

- Matt 28:19-20 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations....20 teaching them to observe my commandements...

The true Church MUST therefore GO and TEACH the individuals on what are the commadements of Christ, all from the Bible.

There is NO scripture that states, "Build a church and let the people come to me/us/ya." Jesus said GO teach them.

So the true church:
#1 is neutral
#2 Prays to God Almighty through Christ
#3 Teaches God's name (hallow be thy name not nameS, one name, one God Almighty)
#4 is in Harmony with all its "congregations"
#5 is Global
#6 puts the Teaching from the Bible and disciple making as priority

God's name is Jehovah, he is the Father in Heaven that Jesus prayed to and made the name of known

7 000 000 Jehovah's Witnesses preach the SAME message from the Bible.
All of us are Neutral



Acts 15:14 Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name.

Jehovah's Witnesses bare and declare God's name to all.

No.

superman said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

...let my people gooooo! ! ! !

Stymie said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

No.

Thanks Ben.

sillyme said:

If U R refering to a "Christian" Church, then we need to find the requirements of its teachings in harmony with Jesus Christ's teachings.

Do to so, we need to refer ourselves in the Bible and back up statements with scriptures and not "i believe" as it is according to God's will, not our's.

We will then see who, among the "church goers" apply what is taught in that "Church/denomination"

- Matt 5:44 Love your ennemy
The True church/denomination will not take part in any political activity and encourage its followers to be neutral, as every form of goverment rules over an enemy killing army. Against Christ teachings.

- John 8:44 Devil father of lies
The True Church/denomination will teach its followers to take no part in politics as we know they lie and slander all the time, regardless of the party.

- luke 11:1-2 Lord's/Model Prayer -Our father in heaven, let your name be sanctified, let your kingdom come...
Asked by a disciple, Jesus taught how to pray, and as we know Jesus did make random statements, he explained that #1 we pray TO the Father, #2 we sanctify His name (God Almighty's name), then pray for Go'd kingdom to come. This is the order of priorities that we need to address God, according to Jesus Christ.

John 17:26: I have made Your name known, and will make it known, so that the love with which you love me, may be in them, and I in union with them.
Jesus is praying to His Heavenly Father, and in his LAST statement in that prayer, he explains that Jesus made his Father's name known, so that their can be a union between his followers and Jesus and God Almighty, our Heavenly Father.
So the True Church/Denomination would teach what is God's name in harmony with what Jesus taught.

- Col 1:24 Body of Christ is the Church/Congregation
- Col 2:19 Body of Christ (Church/Denomination/Congregation) must be in union and harmony like a fleshly body.

This shows that the True Church must be in communication with each church of its denomination like every organ of a body is linked with same nervous system.
This shows that it would have same teachings, same Bible based views on every matter, politics, marriage, beliefs, baptism, etc

Matt 24:14 And the good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all nations and then the end will come.

This shows that this Church MUST be global and put extensif effort to preach the Good News to all peoples of ALL the nations in ALL the lands. But being global, DOES NOT mean that from one country to the next the traditions, teachings and so on and so forth change. Global united message.

-John 14:15 IF you love me you will observe my commandements.

-John 14:21 He that has my commandements AND observes them that one loves me. In turn he that loves me will be loved by my Father and I will love him etc

-John 15:14 You are my friends IF you DO what I am commanding you.

The True Church/Denomination would NOT take it lightly to follow closely the commandements of Jesus. That church would teach AND encourage VERY actively what Jesus taught and commanded as Jesus views this as a CONDITION of OUR love TOWARDS him.

- Matt 28:19-20 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations....20 teaching them to observe my commandements...

The true Church MUST therefore GO and TEACH the individuals on what are the commadements of Christ, all from the Bible.

There is NO scripture that states, "Build a church and let the people come to me/us/ya." Jesus said GO teach them.

So the true church:
#1 is neutral
#2 Prays to God Almighty through Christ
#3 Teaches God's name (hallow be thy name not nameS, one name, one God Almighty)
#4 is in Harmony with all its "congregations"
#5 is Global
#6 puts the Teaching from the Bible and disciple making as priority

God's name is Jehovah, he is the Father in Heaven that Jesus prayed to and made the name of known

7 000 000 Jehovah's Witnesses preach the SAME message from the Bible.
All of us are Neutral



Acts 15:14 Simon has declared how God at the first visited the Gentiles to take out of them a people for His name.

Jehovah's Witnesses bare and declare God's name to all.