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greenpixies

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What do condoms and plastic bags have in common besides the grocery store?

I'd like to clear up a puzzling question I have. So liberals or leftists have implemented an opinion with authoratative action in some states which is the banning of plastic bags in the supermarket. Their reason: plastic bags are not biodegradable and sit in land fills for thousands of years. But what's puzzling is their overzealous enthusiasm when it comes to passing out an abundance of condoms to the public. Condoms are damaging to the environment also but for some reason the nuisance they cause to the environment doesn't matter to liberals. To me the logic leads to hypocrisy. Can you guys make sense of it?

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Reply #1 posted 08/15/08 7:55pm

Stymie

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Reply #2 posted 08/15/08 8:02pm

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So you'd rather have a land fill full of aborted snowflakes instead???



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Reply #3 posted 08/15/08 8:02pm

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well, for starters one can be replaced by earth-friendly canvas and one can't.

it isn't the plastic folks are angry with, it's the unnecessary waste of it and the hazards associated with such.

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Reply #4 posted 08/15/08 8:02pm

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greenpixies said:

I'd like to clear up a puzzling question I have. So liberals or leftists have implemented an opinion with authoratative action in some states which is the banning of plastic bags in the supermarket. Their reason: plastic bags are not biodegradable and sit in land fills for thousands of years. But what's puzzling is their overzealous enthusiasm when it comes to passing out an abundance of condoms to the public. Condoms are damaging to the environment also but for some reason the nuisance they cause to the environment doesn't matter to liberals. To me the logic leads to hypocrisy. Can you guys make sense of it?


For public policy it makes a lot of sense. Plastic bags are larger, much more recklessly discarded, and pose a hazard to a larger range of animals and plants.
If people chose to properly dispose of plastic and other packaging materials these regulation wouldn't be required but they are. No one walks behind each of us keeping plastic out of sewers, waterways, parks . . . we leave trash wherever we go and think nothing of it. (can you tell I have a problem with litterbugs? lol)Where were we . . .
Condoms on the other hand are smaller and yes dangerous to animals much larger than their size, they are usually properly disposed of. Even if flushed they can be properly disposed of. Condoms aren't usually thrown in every environment known to mankind. Condoms usually are to heavy to inflate and aren't likely to blow well away from where it was thrown away.
Lastly and most importantly, condoms are known to save lives, and in the interest of the health and safety of all of us, we will tolerate latex and other manufactured materials to be used in contraceptive devices for the benefit they provide to all of us collectively.
The same argument cannot be made for plastic grocery bags.
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Reply #5 posted 08/15/08 8:12pm

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They're not equivalent. For one, plastic bags serve no essential purpose to society whereas condoms can prevent the spread of infectious diseases.

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Reply #6 posted 08/15/08 8:14pm

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Which would you prefer more?

Unwanted pregnancies or more cases of HIV?

I know it may be difficult to choose, but a non choice may lead to hypocrisy. That's just my logic though, and I'm using your loose definition of logic.

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Reply #7 posted 08/15/08 8:16pm

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SUPRMAN said:

greenpixies said:

I'd like to clear up a puzzling question I have. So liberals or leftists have implemented an opinion with authoratative action in some states which is the banning of plastic bags in the supermarket. Their reason: plastic bags are not biodegradable and sit in land fills for thousands of years. But what's puzzling is their overzealous enthusiasm when it comes to passing out an abundance of condoms to the public. Condoms are damaging to the environment also but for some reason the nuisance they cause to the environment doesn't matter to liberals. To me the logic leads to hypocrisy. Can you guys make sense of it?


For public policy it makes a lot of sense. Plastic bags are larger, much more recklessly discarded, and pose a hazard to a larger range of animals and plants.
If people chose to properly dispose of plastic and other packaging materials these regulation wouldn't be required but they are. No one walks behind each of us keeping plastic out of sewers, waterways, parks . . . we leave trash wherever we go and think nothing of it. (can you tell I have a problem with litterbugs? lol)Where were we . . .
Condoms on the other hand are smaller and yes dangerous to animals much larger than their size, they are usually properly disposed of. Even i flushed they can be properly disposed of. Condoms aren't usually thrown in every environment known to mankind. Condoms usually are to heavy to inflate and aren't likely to blow well away from where it was thrown away.
Lastly and most importantly, condoms are known to save lives, and in the interest of the health and safety of all of us, we will tolerate latex and other manufactured materials to be used in contraceptive device for the benefit they provide to all of us collectively.
The same argument cannot be made for plastic grocery bags.
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precisely

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Reply #8 posted 08/15/08 8:38pm

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Let's just go back to the good old days....1000 BC


That's when the Egyptians used a linen sheath for protection against disease.
OUCH
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Reply #9 posted 08/15/08 8:40pm

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oh my lord spit

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Reply #10 posted 08/15/08 8:42pm

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oh my lord spit
falloff Pixies is damned determined to bring even more kids here that nobody wants.

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noimageatall said:

Let's just go back to the good old days....1000 BC


That's when the Egyptians used a linen sheath for protection against disease.
OUCH
cool



omg

oh the jokes i could make...

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Reply #12 posted 08/15/08 8:55pm

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cborgman said:

noimageatall said:

Let's just go back to the good old days....1000 BC


That's when the Egyptians used a linen sheath for protection against disease.
OUCH
cool



omg

oh the jokes i could make...


Tapping foot and fingers....(I'm waaaaiiiittinnnggg) razz

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Reply #13 posted 08/15/08 9:04pm

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noimageatall said:

cborgman said:



omg

oh the jokes i could make...


Tapping foot and fingers....(I'm waaaaiiiittinnnggg) razz


shroud of _____.

trying to think of a male in the bible from 1000 bc, but am clueless as to 1000 bc

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Reply #14 posted 08/15/08 9:05pm

Stymie

cborgman said:

noimageatall said:



Tapping foot and fingers....(I'm waaaaiiiittinnnggg) razz


shroud of _____.

trying to think of a male in the bible from 1000 bc, but am clueless as to 1000 bc
spit No you di'int. giggle

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Reply #15 posted 08/15/08 9:06pm

SUPRMAN

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cborgman said:

noimageatall said:



Tapping foot and fingers....(I'm waaaaiiiittinnnggg) razz


shroud of _____.

trying to think of a male in the bible from 1000 bc, but am clueless as to 1000 bc



Moses, Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Cain, Abel, Methusalah, David, Solomon, Saul, Samson.

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Reply #16 posted 08/15/08 9:09pm

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cborgman said:

noimageatall said:



Tapping foot and fingers....(I'm waaaaiiiittinnnggg) razz


shroud of _____.

trying to think of a male in the bible from 1000 bc, but am clueless as to 1000 bc


David? Maybe he used it on Bathsheba? lol Hey, let's run with this. They also used tortoiseshell and leather, favoured by the ancient Japanese, oiled paper, fish bladders and animal gut.

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Stymie said:

cborgman said:



shroud of _____.

trying to think of a male in the bible from 1000 bc, but am clueless as to 1000 bc
spit No you di'int. giggle


giggle

there are gonna be some pissed off christians in here tomorrow morn.

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Reply #18 posted 08/15/08 9:20pm

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SUPRMAN said:

cborgman said:



shroud of _____.

trying to think of a male in the bible from 1000 bc, but am clueless as to 1000 bc



Moses, Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Cain, Abel, Methusalah, David, Solomon, Saul, Samson.


david is a good one.

shroud of solomon has a nice ring to it though

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Reply #19 posted 08/15/08 9:21pm

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noimageatall said:

cborgman said:



shroud of _____.

trying to think of a male in the bible from 1000 bc, but am clueless as to 1000 bc


David? Maybe he used it on Bathsheba? lol Hey, let's run with this. They also used tortoiseshell and leather, favoured by the ancient Japanese, oiled paper, fish bladders and animal gut.


falloff

condom history of the world. that would be a great hour on the discovery channel

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Reply #20 posted 08/15/08 9:22pm

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cborgman said:

SUPRMAN said:




Moses, Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Cain, Abel, Methusalah, David, Solomon, Saul, Samson.


david is a good one.

shroud of solomon has a nice ring to it though



How about Lot, Noah, good ol' Sodom and Gomorrah

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Reply #21 posted 08/15/08 9:22pm

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cborgman said:

Stymie said:

spit No you di'int. giggle


giggle

there are gonna be some pissed off christians in here tomorrow morn.


I'll be at the Air Show in Chi all day...let me know what happens. lurking giggle

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Reply #22 posted 08/15/08 9:29pm

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SUPRMAN said:

cborgman said:



david is a good one.

shroud of solomon has a nice ring to it though



How about Lot, Noah, good ol' Sodom and Gomorrah


falloff

the last show i co-wrote was an anti-cabaret act. we made up all these fake musicals for our star to have been a D-list broadway star in, and wrote fake songs for her to sing from the fake shows. one of them was "Old Testaament: The Musical" and we wrote here a monologue about playing lot's wife, and then she sings the number from the show which is called "i can taste the salt in my tears" right before she turns to salt.

good times.
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Reply #23 posted 08/15/08 9:32pm

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cborgman said:

SUPRMAN said:




How about Lot, Noah, good ol' Sodom and Gomorrah


falloff

the last show i co-wrote was an anti-cabaret act. we made up all these fake musicals for our star to have been a D-list broadway star in, and wrote fake songs for her to sing from the fake shows. one of them was "Old Testaament: The Musical" and we wrote here a monologue about playing lot's wife, and then she sings the number from the show which is called "i can taste the salt in my tears" right before she turns to salt.
good times.
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lol

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Reply #24 posted 08/15/08 9:33pm

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noimageatall said:

cborgman said:



falloff

the last show i co-wrote was an anti-cabaret act. we made up all these fake musicals for our star to have been a D-list broadway star in, and wrote fake songs for her to sing from the fake shows. one of them was "Old Testaament: The Musical" and we wrote here a monologue about playing lot's wife, and then she sings the number from the show which is called "i can taste the salt in my tears" right before she turns to salt.
good times.
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lol


on the final note she steps oput of the light and empties a container of morton's on the stage.

we also wrote a number from a "Cathy" musical version of that lame comic strip.

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Reply #25 posted 08/16/08 12:34am

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cborgman said:

noimageatall said:



lol


on the final note she steps oput of the light and empties a container of morton's on the stage.

we also wrote a number from a "Cathy" musical version of that lame comic strip.


Good to see you Chris. hug

As to the topic...GP are you really that naive?

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Reply #26 posted 08/16/08 12:42am

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There is no comparison.... plastic bags feel much better than condoms... I like it rough...

There is one orger who is a COMPLETE RACIST who should be banned from this board but will never be. fart

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Reply #27 posted 08/16/08 1:19am

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greenpixies said:

I'd like to clear up a puzzling question I have. So liberals or leftists have implemented an opinion with authoratative action in some states which is the banning of plastic bags in the supermarket. Their reason: plastic bags are not biodegradable and sit in land fills for thousands of years. But what's puzzling is their overzealous enthusiasm when it comes to passing out an abundance of condoms to the public. Condoms are damaging to the environment also but for some reason the nuisance they cause to the environment doesn't matter to liberals. To me the logic leads to hypocrisy. Can you guys make sense of it?



geek
Uh.... condoms are NOT made of plastic, they are made of a rubber based extract called Latex. Rubber and latex rot and disintegrate much faster than plastic. Polyurethane condoms are a different story, those take much longer to breakdown.

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Reply #28 posted 08/16/08 7:25am

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latex is biodegradable (when not under water, that is). It is an all-natural substance made from the sap of rubber trees. Latex condoms are not composed of 100 percent latex, though. Another material used to make condoms, lambskin, is also biodegradable.


Many household trash take much longer to biodegrade than you thought. In general, organic waste tend to decompose quickly in landfills, but if they are overly compressed, like plastic bottle or bags which seal out oxygen and soil microbes, then they are even tougher than inorganic materials.
How long does it take for trash to biodegrade ?
Plastic soda bottles ..... forever
Glass bottles ..... 1 million years
Batteries ..... 100 years
Aluminum + tin cans ..... 50 to 100 years
Plastic bags ..... 10 to 20 years
Orange peel ..... 6 months
Paper ..... 2 to 5 months

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Reply #29 posted 08/16/08 7:34am

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noimageatall said

Let's just go back to the good old days....1000 BC


That's when the Egyptians used a linen sheath for protection against disease.
OUCH



lol Well damn! ..... lol
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