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IrresistibleB1
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Pelosi gets slammed for not pursuing impeachment



her book tour isn't going so well... lol

some of the footage is hard to understand, but the sentiment is clear - people want impeachment of Bush and Cheney, and the Democrats under Pelosi aren't about to go there.

what do you think? imo, the case is pretty damn clear, and the powers that be worry more about the election than justice.
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Reply #1 posted 08/13/08 4:30pm

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Hey Martina! hug

Yeah, Pelosi sucks. She's a wimp who is, in fact, more worried about her job than about doing what's right, which is all we seem to have in office these days.

We should remove HER right after we remove Bush/Cheney. nod

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Reply #2 posted 08/13/08 4:34pm

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Remember all the fear mongering by Republicans when she was becoming maddam speaker? She's been their best friend. What a disappointment. Really. The Democrats need fresh blood among their ranks, a new generation of leaders who aren't so fucking whimpy. It is just beyond anything you could ever have imagined the way this administration has broken all manners of law and nothing is happening and sadly nothing probably ever will.

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Reply #3 posted 08/13/08 4:36pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Remember all the fear mongering by Republicans when she was becoming maddam speaker? She's been their best friend. What a disappointment. Really. The Democrats need fresh blood among their ranks, a new generation of leaders who aren't so fucking whimpy. It is just beyond anything you could ever have imagined the way this administration has broken all manners of law and nothing is happening and sadly nothing probably ever will.



nod The Democrats and the Republicans like to take shots at each other to make it look like they're all doing what the other party isn't, but anyone who's been paying even a minute of attention knows that they're both doing the same thing, which is NOTHING!

We need a viable 3rd party in this country so we can get rid of these arrogant windbags that occupy the seats of the halls of Congress and the White House.

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Reply #4 posted 08/13/08 5:11pm

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Fuck Pelosi. She's a punk pussy bitch.

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Reply #5 posted 08/13/08 5:34pm

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Does anyone realize why impeachment is unrealistic?

Impeachment would have to be done and finished by the end of the term of this Congress which ends in January.
That is not going to happen. The next Congress would simply have to start the whole process over and Bush would no longer be president.

Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.


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Reply #6 posted 08/13/08 5:50pm

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SUPRMAN said:

Does anyone realize why impeachment is unrealistic?

Impeachment would have to be done and finished by the end of the term of this Congress which ends in January.
That is not going to happen. The next Congress would simply have to start the whole process over and Bush would no longer be president.
Why didn't impeachment start almost 2 years ago?

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Reply #7 posted 08/13/08 5:55pm

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Stymie said:

SUPRMAN said:

Does anyone realize why impeachment is unrealistic?

Impeachment would have to be done and finished by the end of the term of this Congress which ends in January.
That is not going to happen. The next Congress would simply have to start the whole process over and Bush would no longer be president.
Why didn't impeachment start almost 2 years ago?

it could have totally happened. Goddamn scaredy cats.

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Reply #8 posted 08/13/08 6:02pm

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Stymie said:

Fuck Pelosi. She's a punk pussy bitch.



Stymie!!! Tell us how you really feel. biggrin

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Reply #9 posted 08/13/08 6:08pm

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Stymie said:

Fuck Pelosi. She's a punk pussy bitch.



Stymie!!! Tell us how you really feel. biggrin
I'm sorry but I am so sick of people saying whatever it takes to get elected and then dis-a-fucking-pear when it's time to put up or shut up.

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Reply #10 posted 08/13/08 6:16pm

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Stymie said:

JellyBean said:




Stymie!!! Tell us how you really feel. biggrin
I'm sorry but I am so sick of people saying whatever it takes to get elected and then dis-a-fucking-pear when it's time to put up or shut up.

Indiana and Kentucky didn't oust republicans for no reason. If the party acted with courage and conviction it could have defined the party for a long time to come. Instead....

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Reply #11 posted 08/13/08 6:21pm

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SUPRMAN said:

Does anyone realize why impeachment is unrealistic?

Impeachment would have to be done and finished by the end of the term of this Congress which ends in January.
That is not going to happen. The next Congress would simply have to start the whole process over and Bush would no longer be president.



Impeachment can happen after leaving office. It is a formal sanction, not just removal from office, in fact the two things are separate. More importantly, Impeachment takes the possibility of a pardon off the table.

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Reply #12 posted 08/14/08 4:08am

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Mars23 said:

SUPRMAN said:

Does anyone realize why impeachment is unrealistic?

Impeachment would have to be done and finished by the end of the term of this Congress which ends in January.
That is not going to happen. The next Congress would simply have to start the whole process over and Bush would no longer be president.



Impeachment can happen after leaving office. It is a formal sanction, not just removal from office, in fact the two things are separate. More importantly, Impeachment takes the possibility of a pardon off the table.


and hopefully, it will happen nod

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Reply #13 posted 08/14/08 4:41pm

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guitarslinger44 said:

Hey Martina! hug

Yeah, Pelosi sucks. She's a wimp who is, in fact, more worried about her job than about doing what's right, which is all we seem to have in office these days.

We should remove HER right after we remove Bush/Cheney. nod


hi Adam! wave

nod she has a lot of excuses. yes, impeachment is a serious issue and should be handled carefully, but there's mounting evidence that the administration truly did commit crimes.

the right-wingers who still support Bush have to remember that this sets some sort of precident. how would they feel if a democratic president acted this way, well beyond getting a hummer in the oval office?

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Reply #14 posted 08/14/08 7:09pm

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y'all still haven't figured it out? there is but one party in this country and you've been duped if you still think there's a difference between donkeys and elephants in washington.

you had your chance to support a real change in direction. his name is ron paul and you all blew it big time by worrying about party lines.

funny, everyone's worried about a party but nobody's getting invited to join the fun...

"IF YOU’RE OUT THERE YOU'RE VULNERABLE. PEOPLE PREFER TO DISAPPEAR IN LIFE, TO REPRESS THEIR PERSONALITY. THAT'S NOT LIVING. IT'S DYING. I SEE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE, THE WALKING DEAD."
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Reply #15 posted 08/14/08 7:14pm

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sassybritches said:

y'all still haven't figured it out? there is but one party in this country and you've been duped if you still think there's a difference between donkeys and elephants in washington.

you had your chance to support a real change in direction. his name is ron paul and you all blew it big time by worrying about party lines.

funny, everyone's worried about a party but nobody's getting invited to join the fun...



How many articles of impeachment has Paul introduced?

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Reply #16 posted 08/15/08 4:58am

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sassybritches said:

y'all still haven't figured it out? there is but one party in this country and you've been duped if you still think there's a difference between donkeys and elephants in washington.

you had your chance to support a real change in direction. his name is ron paul and you all blew it big time by worrying about party lines.

funny, everyone's worried about a party but nobody's getting invited to join the fun...


why didn't he run as an independent? he certainly didn't get much help from his own party.

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Reply #17 posted 08/15/08 5:25am

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

sassybritches said:

y'all still haven't figured it out? there is but one party in this country and you've been duped if you still think there's a difference between donkeys and elephants in washington.

you had your chance to support a real change in direction. his name is ron paul and you all blew it big time by worrying about party lines.

funny, everyone's worried about a party but nobody's getting invited to join the fun...


why didn't he run as an independent? he certainly didn't get much help from his own party.


Exactly!!! I like Ron Paul, I really do. If he really wanted to make a change he should have started by changing his political affiliation. shrug

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Reply #18 posted 08/15/08 8:03am

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Mars23 said:

sassybritches said:

y'all still haven't figured it out? there is but one party in this country and you've been duped if you still think there's a difference between donkeys and elephants in washington.

you had your chance to support a real change in direction. his name is ron paul and you all blew it big time by worrying about party lines.

funny, everyone's worried about a party but nobody's getting invited to join the fun...



How many articles of impeachment has Paul introduced?

more importantly, how many beneficial policies has he pushed for? how many times has he voted against the war, against higher taxes, against gay marriage bans. impeachment is a silly thing to base your vote on. we should be voting for people who plan on directing change and have illustrated, through policies and votes and actions, that they mean business and aren't just offering lip service like the majority of actors on both sides.

"IF YOU’RE OUT THERE YOU'RE VULNERABLE. PEOPLE PREFER TO DISAPPEAR IN LIFE, TO REPRESS THEIR PERSONALITY. THAT'S NOT LIVING. IT'S DYING. I SEE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE, THE WALKING DEAD."
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Reply #19 posted 08/15/08 8:04am

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

sassybritches said:

y'all still haven't figured it out? there is but one party in this country and you've been duped if you still think there's a difference between donkeys and elephants in washington.

you had your chance to support a real change in direction. his name is ron paul and you all blew it big time by worrying about party lines.

funny, everyone's worried about a party but nobody's getting invited to join the fun...


why didn't he run as an independent? he certainly didn't get much help from his own party.

and therein lies my point and the problem.

you've been voting on party lines and it's got you nowhere. it's time to vote for the individual candidate and his/her record.

i'm telling you to ignore party lines and you come back with a remark asking why he didn't run as an independent? talk about missing the point...

"IF YOU’RE OUT THERE YOU'RE VULNERABLE. PEOPLE PREFER TO DISAPPEAR IN LIFE, TO REPRESS THEIR PERSONALITY. THAT'S NOT LIVING. IT'S DYING. I SEE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE, THE WALKING DEAD."
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Reply #20 posted 08/15/08 8:08am

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sassybritches said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



why didn't he run as an independent? he certainly didn't get much help from his own party.

and therein lies my point and the problem.

you've been voting on party lines and it's got you nowhere. it's time to vote for the individual candidate and his/her record.

i'm telling you to ignore party lines and you come back with a remark asking why he didn't run as an independent? talk about missing the point...


falloff you're cracking me up, man. i know it can be hard to remember people's political stances over the years, but you're barking up the wrong tree here in many ways.

speaking of which - weren't you an Alan Keyes supporter in 04? what happened to his candidacy?

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Reply #21 posted 08/15/08 8:30am

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sassybritches said:

Mars23 said:




How many articles of impeachment has Paul introduced?

more importantly, how many beneficial policies has he pushed for? how many times has he voted against the war, against higher taxes, against gay marriage bans. impeachment is a silly thing to base your vote on. we should be voting for people who plan on directing change and have illustrated, through policies and votes and actions, that they mean business and aren't just offering lip service like the majority of actors on both sides.



I'm guessing zero then. We've been through the rest of Paul's bullshit ad nauseum, yet when asked a simple, direct question, here you come again with the same tired shit.

I will say it takes balls to call impeachment a silly issue when you're here rehashing the failed campaign of this kook who's claim to fame is voting NO on every issue to come up and skipping the votes that have any real consequence.

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Reply #22 posted 08/15/08 8:39am

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Good. She deserves it. She's done nothing useful IMO.

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Reply #23 posted 08/15/08 9:10am

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Mars23 said:

SUPRMAN said:

Does anyone realize why impeachment is unrealistic?

Impeachment would have to be done and finished by the end of the term of this Congress which ends in January.
That is not going to happen. The next Congress would simply have to start the whole process over and Bush would no longer be president.



Impeachment can happen after leaving office. It is a formal sanction, not just removal from office, in fact the two things are separate. More importantly, Impeachment takes the possibility of a pardon off the table.


And also more importantly it sets a precedent.

It lets future presidents know they can't get away with war crimes.

But alas, Congress and most Americans feel fine with that not happening, so it won't and next presidents will take it even a step further.

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Reply #24 posted 08/15/08 9:12am

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sassybritches said:

impeachment is a silly thing to base your vote on.


So you don't care that your war criminals get away with their crimes just like that? That they can represent you as such without sanction?

You would rather vote for a guy who doesn't stand a chance than stand for justice. That's silly.

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Reply #25 posted 08/15/08 10:35am

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Tremolina said:

sassybritches said:

impeachment is a silly thing to base your vote on.


So you don't care that your war criminals get away with their crimes just like that? That they can represent you as such without sanction?

You would rather vote for a guy who doesn't stand a chance than stand for justice. That's silly.

this doesn't make any sense. the majority of our politicians voted FOR the war. are you looking to impeach them as well? or just bush? and why only him?

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Reply #26 posted 08/15/08 10:37am

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

sassybritches said:


and therein lies my point and the problem.

you've been voting on party lines and it's got you nowhere. it's time to vote for the individual candidate and his/her record.

i'm telling you to ignore party lines and you come back with a remark asking why he didn't run as an independent? talk about missing the point...


falloff you're cracking me up, man. i know it can be hard to remember people's political stances over the years, but you're barking up the wrong tree here in many ways.

speaking of which - weren't you an Alan Keyes supporter in 04? what happened to his candidacy?

what does alan keyes have to do with this conversation? nice attempt at a straw man.

you still haven't even bothered to respond to the fact that i said forget about party lines and your response was "why didn't he run as an independent?"

makes no sense to me...

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Reply #27 posted 08/15/08 10:39am

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Mars23 said:

sassybritches said:


more importantly, how many beneficial policies has he pushed for? how many times has he voted against the war, against higher taxes, against gay marriage bans. impeachment is a silly thing to base your vote on. we should be voting for people who plan on directing change and have illustrated, through policies and votes and actions, that they mean business and aren't just offering lip service like the majority of actors on both sides.



I'm guessing zero then. We've been through the rest of Paul's bullshit ad nauseum, yet when asked a simple, direct question, here you come again with the same tired shit.

I will say it takes balls to call impeachment a silly issue when you're here rehashing the failed campaign of this kook who's claim to fame is voting NO on every issue to come up and skipping the votes that have any real consequence.

ron paul skips the important votes? hahahahahaha! lol

he's only voted against the war everytime it came up...even when the dems were voting for it the first time around. he's only voted against our occupying other lands. he's only voted against federal gov't getting in our private lives.

but you're right. not important issues at all.

falloff

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Reply #28 posted 08/15/08 10:40am

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sassybritches said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:



falloff you're cracking me up, man. i know it can be hard to remember people's political stances over the years, but you're barking up the wrong tree here in many ways.

speaking of which - weren't you an Alan Keyes supporter in 04? what happened to his candidacy?

what does alan keyes have to do with this conversation? nice attempt at a straw man.

you still haven't even bothered to respond to the fact that i said forget about party lines and your response was "why didn't he run as an independent?"

makes no sense to me...


She's a freak just like you! lol She's not a dem or republican that's her point wink

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Reply #29 posted 08/15/08 10:48am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

sassybritches said:


what does alan keyes have to do with this conversation? nice attempt at a straw man.

you still haven't even bothered to respond to the fact that i said forget about party lines and your response was "why didn't he run as an independent?"

makes no sense to me...


She's a freak just like you! lol She's not a dem or republican that's her point wink

oh supa...it's not in the political arena that i'm a freak. lol

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