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HBO Documentary: The Black List **It's on Tonight**

Just thought I'd give ya'll a heads up about this new program airing on Monday, Aug. 25th. cool


http://www.hbo.com/docs/d...index.html

** 2008 SUNDANCE FILM FESTIVAL - OFFICIAL SELECTION **

The Black List, Vol. 1 presents dramatic portraits of some of today's most fascinating and influential African-Americans, who share their stories and insights into the struggles, triumphs and joys of black life in the U.S. The film is a collaboration between celebrated portrait photographer and filmmaker Timothy Greenfield-Sanders, who directs, and award-winning journalist Elvis Mitchell, who interviews such notables as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Sean Combs, Thelma Golden, Lou Gossett, Jr., Bill T. Jones, Vernon Jordan, Toni Morrison, Suzanne-Lori Parks, Richard Parsons, Chris Rock, Al Sharpton, Slash, Faye Wattleton, Keenen Ivory Wayans and Zane.

The traditional definition of the word blacklist is rendered obsolete by the new documentary The Black List: Volume One, which seeks to bury the negative weight of the term by allowing African Americans to provide an up-to-the-minute response to the word´s grim origins. In a film that works as a series of living portraits, 21 prominent African Americas offer their own stories and insights on the struggles, triumphs, and joys of black life in the United States. In the process, they manage to redefine blacklist for a new century. The film is presented as a series of vignettes—a kind of living portrait—in which the subjects address the camera directly as they tell their stories.

Renowned portrait photographer and filmmaker Timothy Greenfield-Sanders directed The Black List based on interviews conducted by former New York Times film critic Elvis Mitchell. Among the luminaries from the worlds of politics, sports, and the arts are Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Sean Combs, Vernon Jordan, Toni Morrison, Chris Rock, and the Reverend Al Sharpton. Their tales begin with the personal and move into an area of larger social repercussion. The Black List is more than an enumeration of obstacles overcome—it´s a singular view of America from a perspective rarely seen on screen, constructed in a way that emphasizes the elegance and determination of the subjects.

While filming The Black List, Greenfield-Sanders invited each participant to sit for a portrait. Shot on his large-format 8 x 10 camera, the images were printed as large-scale color photographs, 58 x 44 inches each. The result is a powerful exhibition making its U.S. museum premiere at the MFAH. In addition to the 25 portraits on view, the gallery also features a flat-panel video screen with excerpts from the documentary.

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Reply #1 posted 07/21/08 6:26pm

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Thanks, SCNDLS...I will check it out. (Although I can't abide Sean puffy Combs, I'll watch it) wink

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Reply #2 posted 07/21/08 7:10pm

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Thanks, will definitely check it out.

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Reply #3 posted 07/21/08 8:27pm

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noimageatall said:

Thanks, SCNDLS...I will check it out. (Although I can't abide Sean puffy Combs, I'll watch it) wink

God he IS annoying isn't he. hammer

However, I must say the interview I'm most intrigued by is with Slash. I've never really heard or seen him identify himself as a member of the black community. I've always been disappointed that he didn't do more to expose the black community to rock music. He missed an opportunity IMO to be an ambassador of the genre. Hell, his black grandmother gave him his first guitar. I dunno, it's like he was passing or something. shrug What do ya'll think?

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Reply #4 posted 07/21/08 8:56pm

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lol

I didn´t know slash is black
I only loved the music
he was always hid under hat and hair whenever I looked

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Reply #5 posted 07/21/08 9:01pm

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Rightly said:

lol

I didn´t know slash is black
I only loved the music
he was always hid under hat and hair whenever I looked

Actually, I'm not surprised. Many people don't know. Yeah, his mother is African-American, dad was English. He was born in England, but moved to California at an early age and was raised by his mother.
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Reply #6 posted 07/22/08 8:14am

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SCNDLS said:

Rightly said:

lol

I didn´t know slash is black
I only loved the music
he was always hid under hat and hair whenever I looked

Actually, I'm not surprised. Many people don't know. Yeah, his mother is African-American, dad was English. He was born in England, but moved to California at an early age and was raised by his mother.
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I just found that out earlier this year.

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2elijah said:

SCNDLS said:


Actually, I'm not surprised. Many people don't know. Yeah, his mother is African-American, dad was English. He was born in England, but moved to California at an early age and was raised by his mother.
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I just found that out earlier this year.

See what I mean. I've known this since he came out with GnR. And, for some reason, it's ALWAYS bothered me that he didn't seem to acknowledge his heritage. shrug Although I really like their music, Axl and GnR in general, always struck me as kinda racist so I wonder how he reconciled that environment with the reality of his racial heritage. I'm REALLY interested in what he has to say in this documentary.

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SCNDLS said:

2elijah said:



I just found that out earlier this year.

See what I mean. I've known this since he came out with GnR. And, for some reason, it's ALWAYS bothered me that he didn't seem to acknowledge his heritage. shrug Although I really like their music, Axl and GnR in general, always struck me as kinda racist so I wonder how he reconciled that environment with the reality of his racial heritage. I'm REALLY interested in what he has to say in this documentary.


Interesting...we shall see when it airs.

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Reply #9 posted 07/22/08 10:41am

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Rightly said:

lol

I didn´t know slash is black
I only loved the music
he was always hid under hat and hair whenever I looked


He's Jewish too. He's like his own minority group. lol

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guitarslinger44 said:

Rightly said:

lol

I didn´t know slash is black
I only loved the music
he was always hid under hat and hair whenever I looked


He's Jewish too. He's like his own minority group. lol

lol One man United Nations.

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Reply #11 posted 08/25/08 6:32pm

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It's on right now. thumbs up! Even though I'm sure most of ya'll are watching the convention. biggrin
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Thanks I was watching the convention, but I will turn to the Black List and watch part of it and check back and forth between programs.

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Reply #13 posted 08/25/08 6:46pm

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Rightly said:

lol

I didn´t know slash is black
I only loved the music
he was always hid under hat and hair whenever I looked


Neither did I. I just found out earlier this year. Wow...ya just never know. Interesting.

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Reply #14 posted 08/25/08 6:47pm

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Go on, Al!!! thumbs up!

I'm watching Kareem right now and it seems like he has Parkison's or something. Has anyone heard of him having some kind of disorder? hmmm

Wow, Colin Powell was really candid. Loved what he had to say. cool
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Slash has always looked like a mixed guy to me. shrug

Maybe he's never made a big deal about his black heritage because it isn't a big deal to him. Never heard him make a big deal about his white/Jewish heritage, either. Neither have anything to do with his talent.

I'm sure black people are capable of being exposed to rock music if they're interested just like white people are exposed to r&b/hip-hop/rap if they're interested. Why would some kind of inside "ambassadorship" be necessary?

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Reply #16 posted 08/25/08 7:14pm

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i didnt know that either about Slash.. learn something new everyday..

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Uhope said:

I'm sure black people are capable of being exposed to rock music if they're interested just like white people are exposed to r&b/hip-hop/rap if they're interested. Why would some kind of inside "ambassadorship" be necessary?


Yeah, that's the way I look at it, too. My parents and grandparents were my musical ambassadors, when I was little.

Slash caught my attention with his killer guitar work. As did Vernon Reid, Prince and Hendrix.

Would a black shout-out made me think differently of GnR? shrug Maybe where that "One in a Million" lyric is concerned...

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Uhope said:

I'm sure black people are capable of being exposed to rock music if they're interested just like white people are exposed to r&b/hip-hop/rap if they're interested. Why would some kind of inside "ambassadorship" be necessary?


Yeah, that's the way I look at it, too. My parents and grandparents were my musical ambassadors, when I was little.

Slash caught my attention with his killer guitar work. As did Vernon Reid, Prince and Hendrix.

Would a black shout-out made me think differently of GnR? shrug Maybe where that "One in a Million" lyric is concerned...

Hmmmmm, I disagree. shrug

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SCNDLS said:

Go on, Al!!! thumbs up!

I'm watching Kareem right now and it seems like he has Parkison's or something. Has anyone heard of him having some kind of disorder? hmmm

Wow, Colin Powell was really candid. Loved what he had to say. cool
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Very interesting program, I missed the first 45 minutes. I was happy to hear the honest remarks from most of the people in the documentary. I will catch it on repeat to see the first 45 minutes. Now I will turn the channel to see Mrs. Obama speak.

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Reply #20 posted 08/25/08 7:37pm

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I remember this chick in high school told me Slash was a brotha and this was back in 87, so she was up on game fast, but then again, she should've known -she was a ho and would always be at ALL the rock parties back in the day because she was 5'10 with DD-cups at the age of 17, lookin' like a grown ass woman.

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Reply #22 posted 08/25/08 10:35pm

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That was great

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Reply #23 posted 08/25/08 10:38pm

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guitarslinger44 said:

Rightly said:

lol

I didn´t know slash is black
I only loved the music
he was always hid under hat and hair whenever I looked


He's Jewish too. He's like his own minority group. lol

He said people think he's Jewish. He's not

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Haven't watched it yet.
There is a cool feature on the film's website, a link that lets the 'man in the street' tell his/her own story.

When I first looked at the main info on the site, I thought sure, role models and success stories are great and needed, but what about the little guy? Celebrities and the like can be looked up and Googled easily these days. I'd rather hear about the little-noticed act of heroism/success of Mr. x, y, z - it can be as interesting and eye-opening as the exploits of the big guys, and also be a far more feasible goal for those who feel inspired to emulate it imo.

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Flo6 said:

Haven't watched it yet.
There is a cool feature on the film's website, a link that lets the 'man in the street' tell his/her own story.

When I first looked at the main info on the site, I thought sure, role models and success stories are great and needed, but what about the little guy? Celebrities and the like can be looked up and Googled easily these days. I'd rather hear about the little-noticed act of heroism/success of Mr. x, y, z - it can be as interesting and eye-opening as the exploits of the big guys, and also be a far more feasible goal for those who feel inspired to emulate it imo.

Although all the people have accomplished great things, some of them are people I'd never heard of. So they made an effort to showcase more than just the "typical" celebrity. I think it was beautifully done. Sorry, but by the end of Slash's segment I was totally like confused neutral shrug

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Reply #26 posted 08/26/08 7:05am

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Slash has always looked like a mixed guy to me. shrug

Maybe he's never made a big deal about his black heritage because it isn't a big deal to him. Never heard him make a big deal about his white/Jewish heritage, either. Neither have anything to do with his talent.

I'm sure black people are capable of being exposed to rock music if they're interested just like white people are exposed to r&b/hip-hop/rap if they're interested. Why would some kind of inside "ambassadorship" be necessary?


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