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Number of Abortions Rising in Middle East
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abortion is an evil and narcisstic thing, let liberals can't grasp that concept.
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superman said: abortion is an evil and narcisstic thing, let liberals can't grasp that concept.
Only liberals get abortions? Interesting! | |
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You're probably a man. i don't know if it's evil. | |
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SexGod said: superman said: abortion is an evil and narcisstic thing, let liberals can't grasp that concept.
Only liberals get abortions? Interesting! No, but liberals are the ones that made it legal. | |
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superman said: SexGod said: Only liberals get abortions? Interesting! No, but liberals are the ones that made it legal. and people no matter what political or religious background were having them before they were legal. they were made legal to protect the poor who died in botched abortions. it was to protect the safety of the mother, that it was made legal. if you wanna go live in your perfect dream world please do but leave you arachic views out of others' lives. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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Just read this article in the L.A. Times.
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superman said: SexGod said: Only liberals get abortions? Interesting! No, but liberals are the ones that made it legal. So it's legal and evil? No one is forcing conservative or Republicans to have abortions either but does anyone believe, that just like Muslim women, they just have it done quietly. It's interesting that you presumably oppose Roe v. Wade but the Supreme Court in the 2nd Amemdment ruling last week used the same methodology that made Roe v. Wade legal but I don't hear any conservatives screaming about the court creating law out of thin air. And how does the 2nd Amendment restrict the rights of felons, mentally ill and others to own a firearm? The Constitution doesn't mention them but Scalia seems to find that restriction exists but not a ban on handguns (not rifles or shotguns.) | |
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i abort my turds in the toilet everyday. Sometimes twice a day! | |
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horatio said: i abort my turds in the toilet everyday. Sometimes twice a day!
your false compassion shows every time you comment. | |
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superman said: horatio said: i abort my turds in the toilet everyday. Sometimes twice a day!
your false compassion shows every time you comment. thanks for your insight to the obvious. | |
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My guess is that this has been going on for a very long time, who knows, since time immemorial even.
SUPRMAN said: Just read this article in the L.A. Times.
Very informative. It's amazing that they even find a way to do it. The spousal support is very surprising also. | |
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superman said: SexGod said: Only liberals get abortions? Interesting! No, but liberals are the ones that made it legal. As long as we're going to harp on about abortion in terms of murder and loss of life; more lives are lost due to botched procedures and unsafe conditions in times when abortion is illegal. Roughly 40% of women seeking out illegal abortions die from complications brought on by the procedure. The number of abortions performed does not decrease with criminalization, nor does it increase with legalization. The only thing that changes is the number of women who die based on abortion's legality. In short, more deaths are brought about by abortion being illegal, which is what conservatives are pushing for. [Edited 6/29/08 22:06pm] We are stardust. We are golden.
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Have they never heard of the oldest form of birth control? Okay maybe that's not for everyone. "I think abortions are going up for just for one reason: Sex is becoming more permissive," said Wissam Ghandour, a Lebanese obstetrician and scholar. "I assure you that the majority of girls getting married now are non-virgins and sexually active."
Yes, call attention to all the women because they're of course getting EACHOTHER pregnant. "If access to contraceptives was widely and freely available, abortion wouldn't be necessary," said an official at a Western family planning organization in Yemen. She spoke on condition of anonymity for fear her organization would be targeted. Abortion, she said, is "a last resort."
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Dance said: Yes, call attention to all the women because they're of course getting EACHOTHER pregnant. Isn't that always the case? Even over here, all those hand-wringing studies and debates on sexuality center around how many unwed mothers there are, with no mention of the men who made them mothers; how many girls put out at younger ages and not how many boys are doing it; etc. We are stardust. We are golden.
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meow85 said: Dance said: Yes, call attention to all the women because they're of course getting EACHOTHER pregnant. Isn't that always the case? Even over here, all those hand-wringing studies and debates on sexuality center around how many unwed mothers there are, with no mention of the men who made them mothers; how many girls put out at younger ages and not how many boys are doing it; etc. | |
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"and allows it before then only in cases of violent rape..."
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Flo6 said: Totally agree, men are always conveniently left out of the picture in all these reports. Unwanted pregnancies, rape, domestic violence, etc. The way the debate is phrased, these are always somehow a women's problem. They're not women's problems, they're humanities' problems. We are stardust. We are golden.
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Flo6 said: "and allows it before then only in cases of violent rape..."
That's interesting - there is such a thing as a 'non-violent rape'?!.. They're really shitting in women's face, aren't they? Don't act so surprise. Some men still believe women actually like rape. We are stardust. We are golden.
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Well exactly. So it's about time we involved men [that is, all of society/humanity] in that debate and search for solutions.
meow85 said: Flo6 said: "and allows it before then only in cases of violent rape..."
That's interesting - there is such a thing as a 'non-violent rape'?!.. They're really shitting in women's face, aren't they? Don't act so surprise. Some men still believe women actually like rape. | |
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Flo6 said: Well exactly. So it's about time we involved men [that is, all of society/humanity] in that debate and search for solutions.
I consider myself a feminist, but one of my biggest beefs with the movement is the identifying of certain things like childcare or sexual abuse as "women's issues". Doing so only adds to the marginalization and to those problems being seen as a niche or segmented issue by politicians and other policy makers. Everyone needs to get involved. So-called women's issues are humanities issues. We are stardust. We are golden.
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meow85 said: Dance said: Yes, call attention to all the women because they're of course getting EACHOTHER pregnant. Isn't that always the case? Even over here, all those hand-wringing studies and debates on sexuality center around how many unwed mothers there are, with no mention of the men who made them mothers; how many girls put out at younger ages and not how many boys are doing it; etc. In a patriarchy, it is always the women who are expected to uphold the ideal culture's values. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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PurpleKnight said: meow85 said: Isn't that always the case? Even over here, all those hand-wringing studies and debates on sexuality center around how many unwed mothers there are, with no mention of the men who made them mothers; how many girls put out at younger ages and not how many boys are doing it; etc. In a patriarchy, it is always the women who are expected to uphold the ideal culture's values. We are stardust. We are golden.
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Yes - the cultural values thought up by the men:)..
PurpleKnight said: meow85 said: Isn't that always the case? Even over here, all those hand-wringing studies and debates on sexuality center around how many unwed mothers there are, with no mention of the men who made them mothers; how many girls put out at younger ages and not how many boys are doing it; etc. In a patriarchy, it is always the women who are expected to uphold the ideal culture's values. | |
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Flo6 said: Yes - the cultural values thought up by the men:)..
PurpleKnight said: In a patriarchy, it is always the women who are expected to uphold the ideal culture's values. Yep. When men violate social norms, they are often treated like indiscretions. When women do it, they are viewed more as acts of perversity that threaten the foundation of society. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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Flo6 said: Yes - the cultural values thought up by the men:)..
PurpleKnight said: In a patriarchy, it is always the women who are expected to uphold the ideal culture's values. Well duh! Someone has to stay home and uphold cultural values. We even have that expectation in the U.S. You aren't really expecting us guys to do it are you? | |
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superman said: SexGod said: Only liberals get abortions? Interesting! No, but liberals are the ones that made it legal. Here's a newsflash for ya, Jay. Make them illegal and Repubs will still find a way to go get them done. | |
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