do U consider urself "spiritually awake"?

I'm askin.

I am still researching the concept of 'spirit'

To me sprit is a product of the mind - with no supernatural connection.

As yet no evidence or research has been discovered to prove the existence of 'spirit'

I found this yesterday which is from Descartes entry in wikepedia -- quite interesting .....

Dualism
Descartes suggested that the body works like a machine, that it has the material properties of extension and motion, and that it follows the laws of physics. The mind (or soul), on the other hand, was described as a nonmaterial entity that lacks extension and motion, and does not follow the laws of physics. Descartes argued that only humans have minds, and that the mind interacts with the body at the pineal gland. This form of dualism proposes that the mind controls the body, but that the body can also influence the otherwise rational mind, such as when people act out of passion. Most of the previous accounts of the relationship between mind and body had been uni-directional.

Descartes suggested that the pineal gland is "the seat of the soul" for several reasons. First, the soul is unitary, and unlike many areas of the brain the pineal gland appears to be unitary (microscopic inspection reveals it is formed of two hemispheres). Second, Descartes observed that the pineal gland was located near the ventricles. He believed the animal spirits of the ventricles acted through the nerves to control the body, and that the pineal gland influenced this process. Finally, Descartes incorrectly believed that only humans have pineal glands, just as, in his view, only humans have minds. This led him to the belief that animals cannot feel pain, and Descartes' practice of vivisection (the dissection of live animals) became widely used throughout Europe until the Enlightenment. Cartesian Dualism set the agenda for philosophical discussion of the mind-body problem for many years after Descartes' death. The question of how a nonmaterial mind could influence a material body, without invoking supernatural explanations, remains an enigma to this day.


>>>> My short answer is NO. <<<<

Only when I'm stoned...seriously stoned

doUgetityet said:

I'm askin.

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Yes, I do.

It's always a process.
I try to be a little more awake today than i was yesterday.

all of us are spiritual beings.
just knowing that makes me awake to some extent.

it comes and goes, sometimes on a daily basis, sometimes on an hourly basis, sometimes minute by minute. if i can slow myself down enough to remember the big picture, then yes. i'm spiritually awake. when the nonsense of the outside world infects me too much, well, i might break down and fall spiritually asleep for a minute.

IrresistibleB1tch said:

awake to spirituality, yes
transcendantally, of course, always. We are all awake on this level.

But mentally aware and experiencing it? no

I can say I have had a taste of the bliss, however.
And having had that, I am doing okay inside my cloud.

Yes.
[Edited 6/27/08 9:18am]

"Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man." General Ann Dunwoody

Very much so...

Funny thing I've realized this past weekend, and it has answered a question I've had.

I've known that God draws those rightly disposed to him as those whom he wants to worship him,
and have wondered about a certain woman who married a man she was obsessed with
and 'found the truth', in order to marry him, so the truth was not in her heart.

A moment of clarity came to me, when I realize that because of her false claim, and this man's sincerity,
a way was made out of that marriage for him because God knew his heart.

Although all are given an equal chance to prove their devotion to Him, he also weeds out false ones
who under such a false and deceitful manner 'come into' the truth when the truth is not in their hearts.

(My opinion applys to this particular experience only)

wildgoldenhoney said:

Funny thing I've realized this past weekend, and it has answered a question I've had.

I've known that God draws those rightly disposed to him as those whom he wants to worship him,
and have wondered about a certain woman who married a man she was obsessed with
and 'found the truth', in order to marry him, so the truth was not in her heart.

A moment of clarity came to me, when I realize that because of her false claim, and this man's sincerity,
a way was made out of that marriage for him because God knew his heart.

Although all are given an equal chance to prove their devotion to Him, he also weeds out false ones
who under such a false and deceitful manner 'come into' the truth when the truth is not in their hearts.

(My opinion applys to this particular experience only)

shellyevon said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

Funny thing I've realized this past weekend, and it has answered a question I've had.

I've known that God draws those rightly disposed to him as those whom he wants to worship him,
and have wondered about a certain woman who married a man she was obsessed with
and 'found the truth', in order to marry him, so the truth was not in her heart.

A moment of clarity came to me, when I realize that because of her false claim, and this man's sincerity,
a way was made out of that marriage for him because God knew his heart.

Although all are given an equal chance to prove their devotion to Him, he also weeds out false ones
who under such a false and deceitful manner 'come into' the truth when the truth is not in their hearts.

(My opinion applys to this particular experience only)

Why would God make a way out of a marriage for one person and not for someone else who is being physically or emotionally abused?
Why would God make a way out of a sacred institution for one person but does not do anything for the poor children in the Congo, Sudan or Somalia?

Maybe God dos weed out people but that would not negate their marriage vows.. 1 Cor 7:14 " For the unbelieving husband is sanctified in relation to the wife and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in relation to the brother." How would that man know if his wife would not change her mind in the future?
The only Biblical grounds for divorce and remarriage is adultery....are you suggesting God caused the woman to commit adultery so the man would be free to remarry?
Does God play favorites?

Oh, and my answer to the topic question is that I'm trying hard to be spiritually awake and aware. I'm learning more every day.

wildgoldenhoney said:

Well, do you know all the details of that marriage?
He's done all he could to keep that relationship and make the most of it, but she's the one who chose to leave.

If they're agreeable to staying in the marriage, then by all means, you have God's blessing
when you do all in your power to make things right and work things out.

But does God expect us to stay in the marriage if there is abuse, physical/mental/emotional? Isn't that up to the individual?
But the abuser in this case is the one that left and divorced, even though the other didn't want that outcome.

She has since divorced him, and got into another relationship, thus severing the the marriage vow, leaving him free to re-marry so should he choose.

Not that it applies to any other cases, but as I mentioned, that my opinion applied to this case only.

God didn't make her do it, but he didn't stop her, but let her use her own free will to make that choice.

shellyevon said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

Well, do you know all the details of that marriage?
He's done all he could to keep that relationship and make the most of it, but she's the one who chose to leave.

If they're agreeable to staying in the marriage, then by all means, you have God's blessing
when you do all in your power to make things right and work things out.

But does God expect us to stay in the marriage if there is abuse, physical/mental/emotional? Isn't that up to the individual?
But the abuser in this case is the one that left and divorced, even though the other didn't want that outcome.

She has since divorced him, and got into another relationship, thus severing the the marriage vow, leaving him free to re-marry so should he choose.

Not that it applies to any other cases, but as I mentioned, that my opinion applied to this case only.

God didn't make her do it, but he didn't stop her, but let her use her own free will to make that choice.

I was just taking exception to this phrase:
a way was made out of that marriage for him because God knew his heart.
I do not believe that God changes circumstances like that. I DO believe that He gives us the strength to deal with hard times.

I am a survivor of an abusive marriage where my ex husband has everyone convinced that I was lying about the abuse he gave me. Things aren't always what they seem on the surface.

I am glad that that man is in happier circumstances. We all deserve the chance to be happy.

Yes.

Anxiety said:

it comes and goes, sometimes on a daily basis, sometimes on an hourly basis, sometimes minute by minute. if i can slow myself down enough to remember the big picture, then yes. i'm spiritually awake. when the nonsense of the outside world infects me too much, well, i might break down and fall spiritually asleep for a minute.

wildgoldenhoney said:

Funny thing I've realized this past weekend, and it has answered a question I've had.

I've known that God draws those rightly disposed to him as those whom he wants to worship him,
and have wondered about a certain woman who married a man she was obsessed with
and 'found the truth', in order to marry him, so the truth was not in her heart.

A moment of clarity came to me, when I realize that because of her false claim, and this man's sincerity,
a way was made out of that marriage for him because God knew his heart.

Although all are given an equal chance to prove their devotion to Him, he also weeds out false ones
who under such a false and deceitful manner 'come into' the truth when the truth is not in their hearts.

(My opinion applys to this particular experience only)

babynoz said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

Funny thing I've realized this past weekend, and it has answered a question I've had.

I've known that God draws those rightly disposed to him as those whom he wants to worship him,
and have wondered about a certain woman who married a man she was obsessed with
and 'found the truth', in order to marry him, so the truth was not in her heart.

A moment of clarity came to me, when I realize that because of her false claim, and this man's sincerity,
a way was made out of that marriage for him because God knew his heart.

Although all are given an equal chance to prove their devotion to Him, he also weeds out false ones
who under such a false and deceitful manner 'come into' the truth when the truth is not in their hearts.

(My opinion applys to this particular experience only)

Hold on sis, let's not put other folks' business in the street let alone draw conclusions. It's best left to the Father to decide whose claims are false and whose heart is true. I would hope you'd share your own personal experiences instead?

babynoz said:

What a silly question!

wildgoldenhoney said:

babynoz said:

Hold on sis, let's not put other folks' business in the street let alone draw conclusions. It's best left to the Father to decide whose claims are false and whose heart is true. I would hope you'd share your own personal experiences instead?

Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things if I make a comment and share what I want to share,
and express it in my very own way?
Whatever I say/said shouldn't have any affect on the outcome of the story, nor on the moral of the story;
contrasting a person aware of their spirituality, and one who really isn't concerned with the matters of the spirit.

Besides, I don't have any interesting personal experiences of my own.

It is what I am unconsiously. Sometimes exhilarating other times scary and most often satisfying.

Good1 said:

babynoz said:

Hold on sis, let's not put other folks' business in the street

babynoz said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things if I make a comment and share what I want to share,
and express it in my very own way?
Whatever I say/said shouldn't have any affect on the outcome of the story, nor on the moral of the story;
contrasting a person aware of their spirituality, and one who really isn't concerned with the matters of the spirit.

Besides, I don't have any interesting personal experiences of my own.

I guess it does matter to me, that's why I asked. It also happens to be the topic of the thread. No offense is intended, but I would hope we would be mindful that when we comment on someone else's situation, it would be with the undersanding that it's an observation at best.

You state that you have drawn a contrast between someone who is spiritually aware and one who isn't concerned with matters of the spirit as though it is fact rather than opinion. I guess what I'm not getting is how you come to your conclusion without first hand knowledge of either the situation or the individuals involved?

If you're reluctant to share about your personal journey that's understandable but don't sell yourself short by saying that your personal experiences are uninteresting.

yep, see signs, had a few OBE's and astral projected a few times. Talked to spirits in dreams....

not yet..i plan to one time with the helps of "guides"
don't really believe in the crystal ball!
my spirituality is that of mind maze.
not some new age phase.