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Cops called when man tries to pay for gas with pennies This may be a sign that the gas crunch is breaking the piggy bank.
A man trying to pay for gas with a sackful of pennies at a Denver gas station Thursday got so pushy that clerks called police. The 7:30 a.m. call was on what was termed an "unwanted person" at the Diamond Shamrock station at Broadway and 10th Avenue. Employees said the man, driving a satellite TV truck, became offensive as he insisted on paying with about $10 worth of pennies while the station's mini-mart was busy with a line of customers and vendors delivering goods. The penny-pusher took off just before police arrived. Store officials declined to comment. http://www.rockymountainn...es-driver/ Was it someone hard up or Tom Green? Actually that could be the same thing. | |
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Dance said: This may be a sign that the gas crunch is breaking the piggy bank.
A man trying to pay for gas with a sackful of pennies at a Denver gas station Thursday got so pushy that clerks called police. The 7:30 a.m. call was on what was termed an "unwanted person" at the Diamond Shamrock station at Broadway and 10th Avenue. Employees said the man, driving a satellite TV truck, became offensive as he insisted on paying with about $10 worth of pennies while the station's mini-mart was busy with a line of customers and vendors delivering goods. The penny-pusher took off just before police arrived. Store officials declined to comment. http://www.rockymountainn...es-driver/ Was it someone hard up or Tom Green? Actually that could be the same thing. IF the guy with the pennies had a valid ID I would copy his ID info and get a phone number. If the pennies were short later then he can be notified. But being in a sock makes it hard to determine the coins are all U.S. currency etc. Much harder to eyeball an estimate also. Meanwhile, civic knowledge is enhanced by discussing public affairs, taking part in civic activities and reading about current events and history, the group said.
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SUPRMAN said: IF the guy with the pennies had a valid ID I would copy his ID info and get a phone number. If the pennies were short later then he can be notified. But being in a sock makes it hard to determine the coins are all U.S. currency etc. Much harder to eyeball an estimate also. yeah. It seems to me that as pennies are legal money that the clerk can take them (count them then or latter), refuse them (eat the loss), or give him a chance to come back an pay latter. | |
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Speaking as someone who's had the pleasure of being a cashier...it's a bitch when any customer wants to make a purchase with a pile of coins.
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Wow..desperate times. I wouldn't be surprised if people used returned bottles to start paying for gas...bad times. (high unemployment in the U.S., high gas/oil prices, high food prices, not to mention bad weather causing floods all over, (flooded farms included which means much higher prices for fruits and vegetables at the supermarkets because of this...geez.
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2elijah said: Wow..desperate times. I wouldn't be surprised if people used returned bottles to start paying for gas...bad times. (high unemployment in the U.S., high gas/oil prices, high food prices, not to mention bad weather causing floods all over, (flooded farms included which means much higher prices for fruits and vegetables at the supermarkets because of this...geez.
I know many people who wouldn't pick up a penny if they saw it on the ground because of their pride, but they'll be picking them up now. I agree with Meow, there shouldn't be a reason why he couldn't pay for the gas in pennies. They could have took him to the side and just dealt with it. Obviously the man was desperate. [Edited 6/22/08 13:51pm] I always pick up coins when I see them, even pennies. It adds up to real money sooner than you'd think.  It's not that The Joker's gay. What he is, is Batsexual. He'd be whacking it to Batsy whether our hero had girl parts or boy parts underneath that rubber. | |
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meow85 said: Speaking as someone who's had the pleasure of being a cashier...it's a bitch when any customer wants to make a purchase with a pile of coins.
BUT If the pennies amounted to enough to pay for his gas, there's no reason he shouldn't be allowed to do so. Money is money. it is a bitch when u r busy- but when a child wants to empty their money box to buy a book- other customers can wait. i'll count it-more often than not- they'll give to much $- then put it aside- and sort 4 the register later. money is money Me: there IS only one org
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meow85 said: 2elijah said: Wow..desperate times. I wouldn't be surprised if people used returned bottles to start paying for gas...bad times. (high unemployment in the U.S., high gas/oil prices, high food prices, not to mention bad weather causing floods all over, (flooded farms included which means much higher prices for fruits and vegetables at the supermarkets because of this...geez.
I know many people who wouldn't pick up a penny if they saw it on the ground because of their pride, but they'll be picking them up now. I agree with Meow, there shouldn't be a reason why he couldn't pay for the gas in pennies. They could have took him to the side and just dealt with it. Obviously the man was desperate. [Edited 6/22/08 13:51pm] I always pick up coins when I see them, even pennies. It adds up to real money sooner than you'd think. I find my self doing that somewhat now  . I remember seeing my pops doing this as I was growing up. I find enough, along with my own loose pocket change to fill one of those 3 liter Ozarka water jugs in about a months time or a little more. I then take it to a local grocer and redeem them in a coinstar machine, get my receipt and cash it in at the customer service booth for that paper.[Edited 6/23/08 18:39pm]   National Funk League | |
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Times are tough... although it's a pain, it's legal money. | |
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meow85 said: Speaking as someone who's had the pleasure of being a cashier...it's a bitch when any customer wants to make a purchase with a pile of coins.
BUT If the pennies amounted to enough to pay for his gas, there's no reason he shouldn't be allowed to do so. Money is money. Darned right, money is money. So until pennies are deemed invalid currency by the government, people have the right to use their coins, no matter how small. When I was coming up in the 80's, my mom made us use pennies ALL the time. The only thing I would add to this is that folks should invest in some coin wrappers (out of courtesy for cashiers). You can get them at the bank or at a dollar store. It's a sensible way to utilize money that would ordinarily be cast aside and unused, which is ridiculous considering the cost of living these days. Here in the EU I have a girlfriend who actually keeps a GIGANTIC ceramic piggy bank in her kitchen. Every spring she empties that sucker, sits her 2 kids down for coin wrapping sessions over Easter vacation, and uses the booty to finance a 2 week vacation to Italy for a family of four. It's usually just enough to pay for 4 no-frills budget airline tickets, and basic apartment rental close to the sea. But it certainly gives new meaning to the concept of "penny-pinching" and I think it's an attractive idea. Recently I heard the US treasury wants to do away with the penny. Last I heard from my mom at she's at home still wrapping and depositing hers into the bank, though (while they're still of value) | |
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prb said: meow85 said: Speaking as someone who's had the pleasure of being a cashier...it's a bitch when any customer wants to make a purchase with a pile of coins.
BUT If the pennies amounted to enough to pay for his gas, there's no reason he shouldn't be allowed to do so. Money is money. it is a bitch when u r busy- but when a child wants to empty their money box to buy a book- other customers can wait. i'll count it-more often than not- they'll give to much $- then put it aside- and sort 4 the register later. money is money It's really not a big deal to stop and count out the change. The only problem I have is when it's a kid and they want to count it themselves. Much as I'd like to let them and I really wouldn't mind otherwise, you can't just let someone take half an hour to pay because they're just learning to count.
I don't mind taking change for a purchase, just let me do the counting. It's not that The Joker's gay. What he is, is Batsexual. He'd be whacking it to Batsy whether our hero had girl parts or boy parts underneath that rubber. | |
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Ottensen said: Darned right, money is money. So until pennies are deemed invalid currency by the government, people have the right to use their coins, no matter how small. When I was coming up in the 80's, my mom made us use pennies ALL the time. The only thing I would add to this is that folks should invest in some coin wrappers (out of courtesy for cashiers). You can get them at the bank or at a dollar store. It's a sensible way to utilize money that would ordinarily be cast aside and unused, which is ridiculous considering the cost of living these days. Here in the EU I have a girlfriend who actually keeps a GIGANTIC ceramic piggy bank in her kitchen. Every spring she empties that sucker, sits her 2 kids down for coin wrapping sessions over Easter vacation, and uses the booty to finance a 2 week vacation to Italy for a family of four. It's usually just enough to pay for 4 no-frills budget airline tickets, and basic apartment rental close to the sea. But it certainly gives new meaning to the concept of "penny-pinching" and I think it's an attractive idea. Recently I heard the US treasury wants to do away with the penny. Last I heard from my mom at she's at home still wrapping and depositing hers into the bank, though (while they're still of value) See, I think this is a dumb idea. With no one-cent pieces, absolutely everything would have to be paid in multiples of 5, which is just silly. Why not just find a cheaper method or material for making pennies? It's not that The Joker's gay. What he is, is Batsexual. He'd be whacking it to Batsy whether our hero had girl parts or boy parts underneath that rubber. | |
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meow85 said: prb said: it is a bitch when u r busy- but when a child wants to empty their money box to buy a book- other customers can wait. i'll count it-more often than not- they'll give to much $- then put it aside- and sort 4 the register later. money is money It's really not a big deal to stop and count out the change. The only problem I have is when it's a kid and they want to count it themselves. Much as I'd like to let them and I really wouldn't mind otherwise, you can't just let someone take half an hour to pay because they're just learning to count.
I don't mind taking change for a purchase, just let me do the counting. 
i usually wont let them count it (most of the time they know exactly how much is in their pocket/purse)- i get them to put it on the counter- and i'll quickly put it into dollar quantities-with them watching- most kids/parents r happy with this. with adults, as i said b4- 9 times out of 10- they give too much money, and r happy that i counted it 4 them
as 4 using pennies as mentioned in the opening post, this article is food 4 thought THE size and composition of some of Australia's coins may have to be changed because of the soaring cost of copper and nickel. This year, the metal value of the 5c, 10c and 20c coins will overtake their face value for the first time. And the metal content of our 10c, 20c and 50c pieces is now worth more than the metal in the $1 and $2 coins http://www.news.com.au/da...41,00.html Me: there IS only one org
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they're called convenience stores for a reason, and it's not to count a customers unrolled pennies for a large purchase...some businesses exercise a right (depending on local and state laws) to accept whatever currency they choose...some stores like this won't accept bills larger than 50 or 100...so, yeah, they can refuse currency- wether it be large or small...I mean, you never walk into a gas station, pull all the cash out of your wallet/purse and tell the clerk to count it and see if it pays for everything. do you?? why do that with pennies...
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roodboi said: they're called convenience stores for a reason, and it's not to count a customers unrolled pennies for a large purchase...some businesses exercise a right (depending on local and state laws) to accept whatever currency they choose...some stores like this won't accept bills larger than 50 or 100...so, yeah, they can refuse currency- wether it be large or small...I mean, you never walk into a gas station, pull all the cash out of your wallet/purse and tell the clerk to count it and see if it pays for everything. do you?? why do that with pennies...
how about this, next time you're owed a large amount of change from a purchase, don't balk when the cashier gives you $33.54 in pennies... If that's all they had left in the register, I'd take it. Then I'd go right ahead and stick it in the bank to be withdrawn at a later date. Although, I've never had stores pay me back in pennies, it has happened here I've been given change at closing time in wrapped 20 cent pieces for over 20 bucks. Not really convienient, but I always make do. My motto is, if that's the very best someone can offer and they have no other alternative, I'll do my best to work with them. It's legal tender and I enjoy the benefits of money too much to balk at ANY amount given at a cash register. Although I haven't gotten as savvy as the wives I know who finance Italian trips with small coins, I have been stocking them here and there. I have to admit I like it. It's neat to watch amounts that would otherwise be wasted stack up to something of redeemable value | |
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I don't understand why the clerk didn't ask the man to step aside and stack the pennies while he assisted other clients-- pennies are money and if the man was paying with pennies he probably had to. Seems a little rude to call the cops. | |
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roodboi said: they're called convenience stores for a reason, and it's not to count a customers unrolled pennies for a large purchase...some businesses exercise a right (depending on local and state laws) to accept whatever currency they choose...some stores like this won't accept bills larger than 50 or 100...so, yeah, they can refuse currency- wether it be large or small...I mean, you never walk into a gas station, pull all the cash out of your wallet/purse and tell the clerk to count it and see if it pays for everything. do you?? why do that with pennies...
how about this, next time you're owed a large amount of change from a purchase, don't balk when the cashier gives you $33.54 in pennies... Convenience stores don't accept large bills often because it's a security risk. They're less likely to be robbed if it's known they don't have anythign bigger than 20's. Being a safety issue, that isn't even on the same page as a customer paying with loose change. If a customer has the right amount of money in tender accepted in the area (do NOT come to Canada and try to pay with American bills. It's fucking annoying, and cashiers hate doing it) they should be allowed to pay with it. Money is money. It's not that The Joker's gay. What he is, is Batsexual. He'd be whacking it to Batsy whether our hero had girl parts or boy parts underneath that rubber. | |
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meow85 said: roodboi said: they're called convenience stores for a reason, and it's not to count a customers unrolled pennies for a large purchase...some businesses exercise a right (depending on local and state laws) to accept whatever currency they choose...some stores like this won't accept bills larger than 50 or 100...so, yeah, they can refuse currency- wether it be large or small...I mean, you never walk into a gas station, pull all the cash out of your wallet/purse and tell the clerk to count it and see if it pays for everything. do you?? why do that with pennies...
how about this, next time you're owed a large amount of change from a purchase, don't balk when the cashier gives you $33.54 in pennies... Convenience stores don't accept large bills often because it's a security risk. They're less likely to be robbed if it's known they don't have anythign bigger than 20's. Being a safety issue, that isn't even on the same page as a customer paying with loose change. If a customer has the right amount of money in tender accepted in the area (do NOT come to Canada and try to pay with American bills. It's fucking annoying, and cashiers hate doing it) they should be allowed to pay with it. Money is money. same page or not, these stores can (in some cases) decide what they will or will not accept.... the guy showed up with a bag of pennies...not rolled or pre-counted...it is not the cashiers job to count his money for him... [Edited 6/29/08 23:27pm] "Son of a biscuit....my ancestors spit on your haircut!" | |
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roodboi said: meow85 said: Convenience stores don't accept large bills often because it's a security risk. They're less likely to be robbed if it's known they don't have anythign bigger than 20's. Being a safety issue, that isn't even on the same page as a customer paying with loose change. If a customer has the right amount of money in tender accepted in the area (do NOT come to Canada and try to pay with American bills. It's fucking annoying, and cashiers hate doing it) they should be allowed to pay with it. Money is money. same page or not, these stores can (in some cases) decide what they will or will not accept.... the guy showed up with a bag of pennies...not rolled or pre-counted...it is not the cashiers job to count his money for him... [Edited 6/29/08 23:27pm] Yeah, it is, actually. All money given must be double-checked to be sure it's the correct amount. It's not that The Joker's gay. What he is, is Batsexual. He'd be whacking it to Batsy whether our hero had girl parts or boy parts underneath that rubber. | |
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meow85 said: roodboi said: same page or not, these stores can (in some cases) decide what they will or will not accept.... the guy showed up with a bag of pennies...not rolled or pre-counted...it is not the cashiers job to count his money for him... [Edited 6/29/08 23:27pm] Yeah, it is, actually. All money given must be double-checked to be sure it's the correct amount. yep...when you pay with cash, the cashier always counts out what you give them before it goes in the drawer. Doing otherwise is just asking to be shorted. Nikster...Nikademus...whatever, I'm still Nik 
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Nikademus said: meow85 said: Yeah, it is, actually. All money given must be double-checked to be sure it's the correct amount. yep...when you pay with cash, the cashier always counts out what you give them before it goes in the drawer. Doing otherwise is just asking to be shorted.
If not a physical re-count, then a visual check while the customer is counting. Either way, a cashier can get in a lot of shit from their employer if they're found out not to be checking. It's not that The Joker's gay. What he is, is Batsexual. He'd be whacking it to Batsy whether our hero had girl parts or boy parts underneath that rubber. | |
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meow85 said: roodboi said: same page or not, these stores can (in some cases) decide what they will or will not accept.... the guy showed up with a bag of pennies...not rolled or pre-counted...it is not the cashiers job to count his money for him... [Edited 6/29/08 23:27pm] Yeah, it is, actually. All money given must be double-checked to be sure it's the correct amount. Unless you're in Canada. Cashiers/Companies have the right to refuse payments in mass amounts of change. No more than 25 cents in pennies. Doesn't mean they neccessarily should stop counting at that mark, but legally they don't have to.We have the Currency act that states: (2) A payment in coins referred to in subsection (1) is a legal tender for no more than the following amounts for the following denominations of coins: (a) forty dollars if the denomination is two dollars or greater but does not exceed ten dollars; (b) twenty-five dollars if the denomination is one dollar; (c) ten dollars if the denomination is ten cents or greater but less than one dollar; (d) five dollars if the denomination is five cents; and (e) twenty-five cents if the denomination is one cent. [Edited 6/30/08 3:32am] "The is no great genius without some touch of madness" -Seneca | |
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meow85 said: roodboi said: same page or not, these stores can (in some cases) decide what they will or will not accept.... the guy showed up with a bag of pennies...not rolled or pre-counted...it is not the cashiers job to count his money for him... [Edited 6/29/08 23:27pm] Yeah, it is, actually. All money given must be double-checked to be sure it's the correct amount. key word...double checked...handing over a bag full of uncounted pennies wasn't single checked... observe your own same page rule... "Son of a biscuit....my ancestors spit on your haircut!" | |
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roodboi said: meow85 said: Yeah, it is, actually. All money given must be double-checked to be sure it's the correct amount. key word...double checked...handing over a bag full of uncounted pennies wasn't single checked... observe your own same page rule... Then the cashier counts. It's really not a big deal. It's not that The Joker's gay. What he is, is Batsexual. He'd be whacking it to Batsy whether our hero had girl parts or boy parts underneath that rubber. | |
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Daznym17 said: meow85 said: Yeah, it is, actually. All money given must be double-checked to be sure it's the correct amount. Unless you're in Canada. Cashiers/Companies have the right to refuse payments in mass amounts of change. No more than 25 cents in pennies. Doesn't mean they neccessarily should stop counting at that mark, but legally they don't have to.We have the Currency act that states: (2) A payment in coins referred to in subsection (1) is a legal tender for no more than the following amounts for the following denominations of coins: (a) forty dollars if the denomination is two dollars or greater but does not exceed ten dollars; (b) twenty-five dollars if the denomination is one dollar; (c) ten dollars if the denomination is ten cents or greater but less than one dollar; (d) five dollars if the denomination is five cents; and (e) twenty-five cents if the denomination is one cent. [Edited 6/30/08 3:32am] UNLESS it's an American company in Canada. It's not that The Joker's gay. What he is, is Batsexual. He'd be whacking it to Batsy whether our hero had girl parts or boy parts underneath that rubber. | |
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meow85 said: Daznym17 said: Unless you're in Canada. Cashiers/Companies have the right to refuse payments in mass amounts of change. No more than 25 cents in pennies. Doesn't mean they neccessarily should stop counting at that mark, but legally they don't have to.We have the Currency act that states: (2) A payment in coins referred to in subsection (1) is a legal tender for no more than the following amounts for the following denominations of coins: (a) forty dollars if the denomination is two dollars or greater but does not exceed ten dollars; (b) twenty-five dollars if the denomination is one dollar; (c) ten dollars if the denomination is ten cents or greater but less than one dollar; (d) five dollars if the denomination is five cents; and (e) twenty-five cents if the denomination is one cent. [Edited 6/30/08 3:32am] UNLESS it's an American company in Canada. American companies operating in canada would still be required to operate under canadian law giving them the option to decline certain amounts of change. As i said i don't believe they necessarily should decline or reject those payments but they do have the option as long as its in Canada. I know nothing about american law though, although it looks like from others posts that it might be similar "The is no great genius without some touch of madness" -Seneca | |
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Daznym17 said: meow85 said: UNLESS it's an American company in Canada. American companies operating in canada would still be required to operate under canadian law giving them the option to decline certain amounts of change. As i said i don't believe they necessarily should decline or reject those payments but they do have the option as long as its in Canada. I know nothing about american law though, although it looks like from others posts that it might be similar Well Dave, I can honestly say I have never once worked for a company that lets cashiers refuse tender, so long as it's legal.  It's not that The Joker's gay. What he is, is Batsexual. He'd be whacking it to Batsy whether our hero had girl parts or boy parts underneath that rubber. | |
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