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Spike Lee Accused of Having Anti-Italian Tendencies
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There were no Italians in his film? Wow. Would seem kind of bizarre. "Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man." General Ann Dunwoody | |
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spike lee doesn't discriminate - i don't think he likes ANYONE. |
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Anxiety said: spike lee doesn't discriminate - i don't think he likes ANYONE.
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Copycat said: The Italic Institute of America has criticized Lee in the past for his portrayal of Italian-Americans in "Do the Right Thing" and "Jungle Fever" and has expressed worry about "Miracle at St. Anna," Lee's upcoming World War II drama set in Italy. I can't imagine Summer of Sam made them too happy either. ________________ | |
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he's not anti-italian! some of his best friends are italian! Love me 'til my heart stops...love me 'til I'm dead | |
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Anxiety said: spike lee doesn't discriminate - i don't think he likes ANYONE.
.....especially black conservatives such as the guy they threw off the bus in the film Get On The Bus. | |
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Spike puts everyone from Black, Asian, White, Hispanic, etc in his movies, so what is that group crying about really? http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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2elijah said: Spike puts everyone from Black, Asian, White, Hispanic, etc in his movies, so what is that group crying about really?
i think it sounds a lot like an attempt at backlash after spike's comments at clint eastwood. |
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Anxiety said: spike lee doesn't discriminate - i don't think he likes ANYONE.
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pplrain said: Anxiety said: spike lee doesn't discriminate - i don't think he likes ANYONE.
Agreed, | |
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June 12 Link While Spike Lee and Clint Eastwood trade barbs over Eastwood's portrayal of black characters, a leading Italian-American group has added its voice to the fray, arguing that Lee is guilty of the same prejudices he attributes to Eastwood. Lee first criticized Eastwood last month during the Festival de Cannes, saying that black actors were conspicuous by their absence in Eastwood's Iwo Jima films "Flags of Our Fathers" and "Letters From Iwo Jima." Eastwood replied that the films were historically accurate and that Lee should "shut his face," to which Lee quipped that Eastwood "is not my father, and we're not on a plantation." According to Bill Dal Cerro, president of the Italic Institute of America, Lee may have his own anti-Italian racist tendencies to worry about. "Spike Lee is very talented, but I sometimes wish he'd practice what he preaches," Dal Cerro said. "His points about African-Americans are well taken, but, ironically, he does the same thing to Italians in his films." The Italic Institute of America has criticized Lee in the past for his portrayal of Italian-Americans in "Do the Right Thing" and "Jungle Fever" and has expressed worry about "Miracle at St. Anna," Lee's upcoming World War II drama set in Italy. I think that's hilarious and rather wonderful! I see their point. | |
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Really?
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ThreadBare said: Copycat said:
June 12 Link While Spike Lee and Clint Eastwood trade barbs over Eastwood's portrayal of black characters, a leading Italian-American group has added its voice to the fray, arguing that Lee is guilty of the same prejudices he attributes to Eastwood. Lee first criticized Eastwood last month during the Festival de Cannes, saying that black actors were conspicuous by their absence in Eastwood's Iwo Jima films "Flags of Our Fathers" and "Letters From Iwo Jima." Eastwood replied that the films were historically accurate and that Lee should "shut his face," to which Lee quipped that Eastwood "is not my father, and we're not on a plantation." According to Bill Dal Cerro, president of the Italic Institute of America, Lee may have his own anti-Italian racist tendencies to worry about. "Spike Lee is very talented, but I sometimes wish he'd practice what he preaches," Dal Cerro said. "His points about African-Americans are well taken, but, ironically, he does the same thing to Italians in his films." The Italic Institute of America has criticized Lee in the past for his portrayal of Italian-Americans in "Do the Right Thing" and "Jungle Fever" and has expressed worry about "Miracle at St. Anna," Lee's upcoming World War II drama set in Italy. I think that's hilarious and rather wonderful! I see their point. I see their point too. I thought the same thing the first time I saw "Do the Right Thing" Measure in Love
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Anxiety said: 2elijah said: Spike puts everyone from Black, Asian, White, Hispanic, etc in his movies, so what is that group crying about really?
i think it sounds a lot like an attempt at backlash after spike's comments at clint eastwood. Why would an Italian-American group be attempting backlash for comments about Clint Eastwood? Measure in Love
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2elijah said: Spike puts everyone from Black, Asian, White, Hispanic, etc in his movies, so what is that group crying about really?
It's not about who he puts in his movies, it's about how they're portrayed - and what I've personally noticed is that Italian Americans are often portrayed in his movies as being unintelligent, racist thugs. Measure in Love
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applekisses said: Anxiety said: i think it sounds a lot like an attempt at backlash after spike's comments at clint eastwood. Why would an Italian-American group be attempting backlash for comments about Clint Eastwood? they're bored? |
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Anxiety said: applekisses said: Why would an Italian-American group be attempting backlash for comments about Clint Eastwood? they're bored? It could be - or maybe they're trying to adopt Clint as an honorary Italian to kick off the reincarnation of the Spaghetti Western. [Edited 6/12/08 21:07pm] Measure in Love
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Anxiety said: 2elijah said: Spike puts everyone from Black, Asian, White, Hispanic, etc in his movies, so what is that group crying about really?
i think it sounds a lot like an attempt at backlash after spike's comments at clint eastwood. | |
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the outrage!!! The Vogue of Imitation | |
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horatio said: the outrage!!!
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applekisses said: 2elijah said: Spike puts everyone from Black, Asian, White, Hispanic, etc in his movies, so what is that group crying about really?
It's not about who he puts in his movies, it's about how they're portrayed - and what I've personally noticed is that Italian Americans are often portrayed in his movies as being unintelligent, racist thugs. | |
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ThreadBare said: applekisses said: It's not about who he puts in his movies, it's about how they're portrayed - and what I've personally noticed is that Italian Americans are often portrayed in his movies as being unintelligent, racist thugs. The Vogue of Imitation | |
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ThreadBare said: applekisses said: It's not about who he puts in his movies, it's about how they're portrayed - and what I've personally noticed is that Italian Americans are often portrayed in his movies as being unintelligent, racist thugs. Spike has portrayed every race group in his movies making prejudiced remarks. It's not like he's lying that they do it. I'd like someone to show me one ethnic group that does not make prejudiced remarks. Let's take the series the Sopranos. When I watched the Sopranos, I noticed they were portrayed as racist thugs and gangstas. Very stereotypical. Interesting that you both made that point. This is why Spike has a right to complain to Clint about not showing the role of African-American soldiers, no matter how small the numbers were, in the involvement of raising the flag at Iwo Jima in his movie, just as you and others feel you have a right to complain about Spike portraying Italians as racist thugs. I guess you can say it works both ways. http://prince.org/msg/15/286132
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2elijah said:[quote] ThreadBare said: Spike has portrayed every race group in his movies making prejudiced remarks. It's not like he's lying that they do it. I'd like someone to show me one ethnic group that does not make prejudiced remarks. Let's take the series the Sopranos. When I watched the Sopranos, I noticed they were portrayed as racist thugs and gangstas. Very stereotypical. Interesting that you both made that point. This is why Spike has a right to complain to Clint about not showing the role of African-American soldiers, no matter how small the numbers were, in the involvement of raising the flag at Iwo Jima in his movie, just as you and others feel you have a right to complain about Spike portraying Italians as racist thugs. I guess you can say it works both ways.[/quote] Oh, sure he does. And, you're right, it does go both ways. I think that was the point of the article in the first place. So, do you think that just because everyone makes prejudiced remarks that it's ok for Spike Lee to do it too? I would think that if it's wrong for one it's wrong for everyone. And, yes, the Sopranos is very stereotypical too and I also have a problem with it because of that. [Edited 6/13/08 23:11pm] Measure in Love
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horatio said: ThreadBare said: What is this? Measure in Love
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I'm going to have to agree with The Italic Institute of America on this.
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Great, another guy to really help Obama out..haha.
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I think I'll wait to see how he portrays Italians in their own country before I can really say. "Behind every successful woman there is an astonished man." General Ann Dunwoody | |
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2elijah said: Spike puts everyone from Black, Asian, White, Hispanic, etc in his movies, so what is that group crying about really?
Exactly. Spike is great at showing the true sides of people, the ugliness that comes out in certain situations. Living in NYC, I saw that ugliness when Yusef Hawkins was killed in Bensonhurst and Michael Griffith in Howard Beach. Like every director, Spike's giving you HIS point of view. You don't like it, don't patronize his films. Simple. I'd like to know if this group complained over how Scorsese & Coppola portrayed Italians in their films. [Edited 6/14/08 19:26pm] | |
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