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Thread started 05/06/08 9:39am

RodeoSchro

This is just amazingly disgusting to me

It's been almost seven years since the towers fell. That's 2,429 days from today (May 6, 2008). And yet, President Bush has not formulated a plan to protect us.

Conservatives bleat that bin Laden is hiding in Pakistan. The GAO says we haven't done squat in Pakistan.

Can any conservative seriously claim George W. Bush cares even an iota about capturing Osama bin Laden?

What a DISGRACE.

And of course, McCain = Bush. So if you like letting Osama bin Laden continue to get away with killing thousands of Americans, then by all means vote for McCain.

Since 2002, destroying the terrorist threat and closing the terrorist safe haven have been key national security goals. The United States has provided Pakistan, a key ally in the war on terror, more than $10.5 billion for military, economic, and development activities. Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), which border Afghanistan, are vast unpoliced regions attractive to extremists and terrorists seeking a safe haven. GAO was asked to assess (1) the progress in meeting these national security goals for Pakistan's FATA, and (2) the status of U.S. efforts to develop a comprehensive plan for the FATA. To address these objectives, GAO compared national security goals against assessments conducted by U.S. agencies and reviewed available plans.

The United States has not met its national security goals to destroy terrorist threats and close the safe haven in Pakistan's FATA. Since 2002, the United States relied principally on the Pakistan military to address U.S. national security goals. Of the approximately $5.8 billion the United States provided for efforts in the FATA and border region from 2002 through 2007, about 96 percent reimbursed Pakistan for military operations there. According to the Department of State, Pakistan deployed 120,000 military and paramilitary forces in the FATA and helped kill and capture hundreds of suspected al Qaeda operatives; these efforts cost the lives of approximately 1,400 members of Pakistan's security forces. However, GAO found broad agreement, as documented in the National Intelligence Estimate, State, and embassy documents, as well as Defense officials in Pakistan, that al Qaeda had regenerated its ability to attack the United States and had succeeded in establishing a safe haven in Pakistan's FATA. No comprehensive plan for meeting U.S. national security goals in the FATA has been developed, as stipulated by the National Strategy for Combating Terrorism (2003), called for by an independent commission (2004), and mandated by congressional legislation (2007). Furthermore, Congress created the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC) in 2004 specifically to develop comprehensive plans to combat terrorism. However, neither the National Security Council (NSC), NCTC, nor other executive branch departments have developed a comprehensive plan that includes all elements of national power--diplomatic, military, intelligence, development assistance, economic, and law enforcement support--called for by the various national security strategies and Congress. As a result, since 2002, the U.S. embassy in Pakistan has had no Washington-supported, comprehensive plan to combat terrorism and close the terrorist safe haven in the FATA. In 2006, the embassy, in conjunction with Defense, State, and U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), and in cooperation with the government of Pakistan, began an effort to focus more attention on other key elements of national power, such as development assistance and public diplomacy, to address U.S. goals in the FATA. However, this does not yet constitute a comprehensive plan.


http://www.gao.gov/docsea...GAO-08-622

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Reply #1 posted 05/06/08 9:48am

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Yeah

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Reply #2 posted 05/06/08 9:51am

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Yeah

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Why aren't my fellow Americans mad as hell that George Bush has let Osama bin Laden get away with murder?

They bray, "He's contained! He's on the run! He's immobilized!"

BIG. FREAKING. DEAL.

If someone killed MY parents, and the police said, "As long as we think he's on the run, we aren't gonna worry about actually catching him," I would not stand for that.

Absolutely UNBELIEVABLE.

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Reply #3 posted 05/06/08 9:59am

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What's unbelievable is people actually believe the story, the fable, that things happened the way the government said.

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Reply #4 posted 05/06/08 10:02am

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it's not in Bush's interest to capture Bin Laden. they both need each other to continue pursuing their respective goals.

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Reply #5 posted 05/06/08 10:12am

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RodeoSchro said:



Why aren't my fellow Americans mad as hell that George Bush has let Osama bin Laden get away with murder?


Some are


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Reply #6 posted 05/06/08 12:16pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

it's not in Bush's interest to capture Bin Laden. they both need each other to continue pursuing their respective goals.


This.

Besides, Bin Laden was a patsy. Just someone to blame, to give a FACE to terrorism. I bet he's been paid by the US Govt. in some fashion. The Brits did the same thing with some other guy who was allegedly responsible for the Tube bombings on 7/7 but was being paid by the British government and was even allowed to land and take off from Heathrow in London despite being at the top of MI6's watch list.

Also, the War On Terror® is a lie. Just one more thing to get people scared. You have a better chance of winning the lottery than you do being killed by a terrorist. confused

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Reply #7 posted 05/06/08 12:53pm

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guitarslinger44 said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:

it's not in Bush's interest to capture Bin Laden. they both need each other to continue pursuing their respective goals.


This.

Besides, Bin Laden was a patsy. Just someone to blame, to give a FACE to terrorism. I bet he's been paid by the US Govt. in some fashion. The Brits did the same thing with some other guy who was allegedly responsible for the Tube bombings on 7/7 but was being paid by the British government and was even allowed to land and take off from Heathrow in London despite being at the top of MI6's watch list.

Also, the War On Terror® is a lie. Just one more thing to get people scared. You have a better chance of winning the lottery than you do being killed by a terrorist. confused


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Reply #8 posted 05/06/08 1:16pm

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what's unbelievable is that people believe this bullshit.

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Reply #9 posted 05/06/08 1:22pm

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Reply #10 posted 05/06/08 1:35pm

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what's unbelievable is that people believe this bullshit.


Are you calling the report from the GAO bullshit?

Seriously?

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Reply #11 posted 05/06/08 1:57pm

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RodeoSchro said:

2Jay said:

what's unbelievable is that people believe this bullshit.


Are you calling the report from the GAO bullshit?

Seriously?



no the fact that we're winning the war in Iraq-- People believe that.

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Reply #12 posted 05/06/08 2:38pm

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2Jay said:

RodeoSchro said:



Are you calling the report from the GAO bullshit?

Seriously?



no the fact that we're winning the war in Iraq-- People believe that.


What are you talking about?

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Reply #13 posted 05/06/08 3:10pm

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Why aren't my fellow Americans mad as hell that George Bush has let Osama bin Laden get away with murder?


We are.It's just that we do not have a big stick to cause a stir.

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Reply #14 posted 05/06/08 9:50pm

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Mach said:

RodeoSchro said:



Why aren't my fellow Americans mad as hell that George Bush has let Osama bin Laden get away with murder?


Some are


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I think many are. But many if not most of them are in the faceless middle, the independents who decide elections.

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Reply #15 posted 05/06/08 9:56pm

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You guys seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/wa...psvaTIa7Kc

Co-incidence that she knew things like this and was then murdered?
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ps. how do you embed youtubes into this forum?
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Reply #16 posted 05/06/08 10:20pm

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IrresistibleB1tch said:

it's not in Bush's interest to capture Bin Laden. they both need each other to continue pursuing their respective goals.


This.

Besides, Bin Laden was a patsy. Just someone to blame, to give a FACE to terrorism. I bet he's been paid by the US Govt. in some fashion. The Brits did the same thing with some other guy who was allegedly responsible for the Tube bombings on 7/7 but was being paid by the British government and was even allowed to land and take off from Heathrow in London despite being at the top of MI6's watch list.
Also, the War On Terror® is a lie. Just one more thing to get people scared. You have a better chance of winning the lottery than you do being killed by a terrorist. confused




I've never heard much about this.
can you post a link so i can read more about it?

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Reply #17 posted 05/07/08 6:23am

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namepeace said:

Mach said:



Some are


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I think many are. But many if not most of them are in the faceless middle, the independents who decide elections.



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