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10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don't) 10 things you should know about John McCain (but probably don't):
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#7 scares the heck out of me. I can't even imaging what would happen if McCain became president. Well, actually I can and it aint good. His "bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran," comments sums up what he plans to do if he became president. The guy is a loose canon.
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He´s gonna make us miss G.W.Bush.
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and people would rather vote for him than hillary WHY? Well, I can give you two reasons off the top of my head. 1. Most people don't like the idea of having their tax cuts repealed. 2. Although most Americans say that the war in Iraq is a mistake, they feel in their hearts, that this is a war aganist terrorism. Which McCain is more suited to lead. He is exactly who we thought he was | |
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Accujack said: evenstar said: christ
and people would rather vote for him than hillary WHY? Well, I can give you two reasons off the top of my head. 1. Most people don't like the idea of having their tax cuts repealed. 2. Although most Americans say that the war in Iraq is a mistake, they feel in their hearts, that this is a war aganist terrorism. Which McCain is more suited to lead. i meant the contingent of people who would vote for obama, but if he doesn't get the nomination will either not vote, or vote for mccain. utter insanity. | |
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some of these are just laughable, the equivalent of saying on some things mccain as an alleged conservative actually does believe in limited government, and knows that liberal policies on the subject spell disaster.
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Accujack said: evenstar said: christ
and people would rather vote for him than hillary WHY? Well, I can give you two reasons off the top of my head. 1. Most people don't like the idea of having their tax cuts repealed. 2. Although most Americans say that the war in Iraq is a mistake, they feel in their hearts, that this is a war aganist terrorism. Which McCain is more suited to lead. Accujack, do you plan to vote for McCain? | |
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HiinEnkelte said: some of these are just laughable, the equivalent of saying on some things mccain as an alleged conservative actually does believe in limited government, and knows that liberal policies on the subject spell disaster.
but what possibly compares with the liberals belief that prenatal humans should have no protection from being willfully slaughtered? and that the killing of prenatal humans should be protected by the state and funded by tax dollars as a right? NOTHING. and yet such a morally depraved view is championed by the democrat party and its candidates. [Edited 4/6/08 9:30am] i just love the term prenatal humans. | |
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Stymie said: Accujack said: Well, I can give you two reasons off the top of my head. 1. Most people don't like the idea of having their tax cuts repealed. 2. Although most Americans say that the war in Iraq is a mistake, they feel in their hearts, that this is a war aganist terrorism. Which McCain is more suited to lead. Accujack, do you plan to vote for McCain? Absolutely. He is exactly who we thought he was | |
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HiinEnkelte said: some of these are just laughable, the equivalent of saying on some things mccain as an alleged conservative actually does believe in limited government, and knows that liberal policies on the subject spell disaster.
but what possibly compares with the liberals belief that prenatal humans should have no protection from being willfully slaughtered? and that the killing of prenatal humans should be protected by the state and funded by tax dollars as a right? NOTHING. and yet such a morally depraved view is championed by the democrat party and its candidates. [Edited 4/6/08 9:30am] It really is amazing isn't it. I have always felt that all other social and political issues could resonably be debated on from both sides, but it blows my mind that a political party can stand up for the murder of "prenatal humans" and "good" people would still vote for them. It is really sad that these liberals claim to stand up for all minorities, yet when it comes to the rights of "pernatal humans", they become silent. He is exactly who we thought he was | |
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evenstar said: HiinEnkelte said: some of these are just laughable, the equivalent of saying on some things mccain as an alleged conservative actually does believe in limited government, and knows that liberal policies on the subject spell disaster.
but what possibly compares with the liberals belief that prenatal humans should have no protection from being willfully slaughtered? and that the killing of prenatal humans should be protected by the state and funded by tax dollars as a right? NOTHING. and yet such a morally depraved view is championed by the democrat party and its candidates. [Edited 4/6/08 9:30am] i just love the term prenatal humans. is it inaccurate? no. how about prenatal child? apparently many people are so easily confused by such difficult terms like 'human embryo' like george carlin is. Welcome to the New World Odor and
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Accujack said: HiinEnkelte said: some of these are just laughable, the equivalent of saying on some things mccain as an alleged conservative actually does believe in limited government, and knows that liberal policies on the subject spell disaster.
but what possibly compares with the liberals belief that prenatal humans should have no protection from being willfully slaughtered? and that the killing of prenatal humans should be protected by the state and funded by tax dollars as a right? NOTHING. and yet such a morally depraved view is championed by the democrat party and its candidates. [Edited 4/6/08 9:30am] It really is amazing isn't it. I have always felt that all other social and political issues could resonably be debated on from both sides, but it blows my mind that a political party can stand up for the murder of "prenatal humans" and "good" people would still vote for them. It is really sad that these liberals claim to stand up for all minorities, yet when it comes to the rights of "pernatal humans", they become silent. | |
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Stymie said: Accujack said: It really is amazing isn't it. I have always felt that all other social and political issues could resonably be debated on from both sides, but it blows my mind that a political party can stand up for the murder of "prenatal humans" and "good" people would still vote for them. It is really sad that these liberals claim to stand up for all minorities, yet when it comes to the rights of "pernatal humans", they become silent. aaah, and we come back to the same point i've never seen addressed properly in this forum. ever. | |
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Accujack said: HiinEnkelte said: some of these are just laughable, the equivalent of saying on some things mccain as an alleged conservative actually does believe in limited government, and knows that liberal policies on the subject spell disaster.
but what possibly compares with the liberals belief that prenatal humans should have no protection from being willfully slaughtered? and that the killing of prenatal humans should be protected by the state and funded by tax dollars as a right? NOTHING. and yet such a morally depraved view is championed by the democrat party and its candidates. [Edited 4/6/08 9:30am] It really is amazing isn't it. I have always felt that all other social and political issues could resonably be debated on from both sides, but it blows my mind that a political party can stand up for the murder of "prenatal humans" and "good" people would still vote for them. It is really sad that these liberals claim to stand up for all minorities, yet when it comes to the rights of "pernatal humans", they become silent. | |
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evenstar said: Stymie said: What exactly is the point of standing up for prenatal humans when we don't care what happens to them once they get here? What of all those postnatal humans dying in a war started on inaccurate information?
aaah, and we come back to the same point i've never seen addressed properly in this forum. ever. | |
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Accujack said: HiinEnkelte said: some of these are just laughable, the equivalent of saying on some things mccain as an alleged conservative actually does believe in limited government, and knows that liberal policies on the subject spell disaster.
but what possibly compares with the liberals belief that prenatal humans should have no protection from being willfully slaughtered? and that the killing of prenatal humans should be protected by the state and funded by tax dollars as a right? NOTHING. and yet such a morally depraved view is championed by the democrat party and its candidates. [Edited 4/6/08 9:30am] It really is amazing isn't it. I have always felt that all other social and political issues could resonably be debated on from both sides, but it blows my mind that a political party can stand up for the murder of "prenatal humans" and "good" people would still vote for them. It is really sad that these liberals claim to stand up for all minorities, yet when it comes to the rights of "pernatal humans", they become silent. these humans are not humans worthy of their lives. 'Lebensunwertes Leben'. these humans are property. it's a privacy matter. yeah, where have we heard these arguments before in defending the state protected violation of the most basic integrity and right of other human lives? so sad. there's many many things to criticize mccain about. defending the basic right to life for those who have the greatest claim upon such protection is not one of them. . [Edited 4/6/08 9:48am] Welcome to the New World Odor and
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Accujack said: evenstar said: christ
and people would rather vote for him than hillary WHY? Well, I can give you two reasons off the top of my head. 1. Most people don't like the idea of having their tax cuts repealed. 2. Although most Americans say that the war in Iraq is a mistake, they feel in their hearts, that this is a war aganist terrorism. Which McCain is more suited to lead. | |
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Stymie said: Accujack said: It really is amazing isn't it. I have always felt that all other social and political issues could resonably be debated on from both sides, but it blows my mind that a political party can stand up for the murder of "prenatal humans" and "good" people would still vote for them. It is really sad that these liberals claim to stand up for all minorities, yet when it comes to the rights of "pernatal humans", they become silent. no they're not. postnatals have not been deemed a class of humans without the right to life. that is simply not true. [Edited 4/6/08 9:51am] Welcome to the New World Odor and
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HiinEnkelte said: Accujack said: It really is amazing isn't it. I have always felt that all other social and political issues could resonably be debated on from both sides, but it blows my mind that a political party can stand up for the murder of "prenatal humans" and "good" people would still vote for them. It is really sad that these liberals claim to stand up for all minorities, yet when it comes to the rights of "pernatal humans", they become silent. these humans are not humans worthy of their lives. 'Lebensunwertes Leben'. these humans are property. it's a privacy matter. yeah, where have we heard these arguments before in defending the state protected violation of the most basic integrity and right of other human lives? so sad. there's many many things to criticize mccain about. defending the basic right to life for those who have the greatest claim upon such protection is not one of them. . [Edited 4/6/08 9:48am] and likening liberals to nazis makes this thread complete! | |
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HiinEnkelte said: Stymie said: Good people supposedly are voting for someone who supports the killng of postnatals, so what's your point?
no they're not. postnatals have not been deemed a class of humans without the right to life. that is simply not true. [Edited 4/6/08 9:51am] | |
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Stymie said: Accujack said: It really is amazing isn't it. I have always felt that all other social and political issues could resonably be debated on from both sides, but it blows my mind that a political party can stand up for the murder of "prenatal humans" and "good" people would still vote for them. It is really sad that these liberals claim to stand up for all minorities, yet when it comes to the rights of "pernatal humans", they become silent. Exactly. Does not compute. Save the pre-nates, but send teens off to a war to die for no just reason. Absolutely illogical. Guess what? I am totally against abortion (but it's MY personal belief and I do not judge anyone else or say they're going to hell) yet I see where this makes NO SENSE! ONLY LOSERS FEAR A MORE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD~~Sananda Maitreya Beware of men that will not go down! (I wish my momma had taught me all this)-BklynBabe | |
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Stymie said: Accujack said: It really is amazing isn't it. I have always felt that all other social and political issues could resonably be debated on from both sides, but it blows my mind that a political party can stand up for the murder of "prenatal humans" and "good" people would still vote for them. It is really sad that these liberals claim to stand up for all minorities, yet when it comes to the rights of "pernatal humans", they become silent. you can't have a child killed or dismembered without being punished by the law. no law supports that. that is obvious. and i know i would never vote for anyone that said you can have your child killed if you want. no way. What of all those postnatal humans dying in a war started on inaccurate information?
you might disagree with this war, and there are many respectable reasons to do so, but no soldier can wantonly just kill an unarmed combatant without severe penalty. much less intentionally kill an non-aggressing civilian. Welcome to the New World Odor and
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noimageatall said: Stymie said: What exactly is the point of standing up for prenatal humans when we don't care what happens to them once they get here? What of all those postnatal humans dying in a war started on inaccurate information?
Exactly. Does not compute. Save the pre-nates, but send teens off to a war to die for no just reason. Absolutely illogical. Guess what? I am totally against abortion (but it's MY personal belief and I do not judge anyone else or say they're going to hell) yet I see where this makes NO SENSE! so your view about the wrongfulness or pointlessness of fighting in this war is just your personal opinion as well, without judgment? Welcome to the New World Odor and
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HiinEnkelte said:[quote] Stymie said: you can't have a child killed or dismembered without being punished by the law. no law supports that. that is obvious. and i know i would never vote for anyone that said you can have your child killed if you want. no way. What of all those postnatal humans dying in a war started on inaccurate information?
you might disagree with this war, and there are many respectable reasons to do so, but no soldier can wantonly just kill an unarmed combatant without severe penalty. much less intentionally kill an non-aggressing civilian. We know when we do that, we are going to kill innocent people, whether we are aiming for them or not. It is sad that that loss of life is not as important to some. | |
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Stymie said: HiinEnkelte said: no they're not. postnatals have not been deemed a class of humans without the right to life. that is simply not true. [Edited 4/6/08 9:51am] i cannot give credence to your characterization of raining down bombs on innocent people. it's not an accurate or fair characterization, so i can't really address this. Welcome to the New World Odor and
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HiinEnkelte said:[quote] Stymie said: you can't have a child killed or dismembered without being punished by the law. no law supports that. that is obvious. and i know i would never vote for anyone that said you can have your child killed if you want. no way. What of all those postnatal humans dying in a war started on inaccurate information?
you might disagree with this war, and there are many respectable reasons to do so, but no soldier can wantonly just kill an unarmed combatant without severe penalty. much less intentionally kill an non-aggressing civilian. | |
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HiinEnkelte said: Stymie said: Did he or did he not vote for war? Does he support war? No one in their right mind can think they are going to rain bombs down on people and innocent people, even those still in their mothers' wombs, would not be killed. People are obviously okay with that and obviously can sleep at night.
i cannot give credence to your characterization of raining down bombs on innocent people. it's not an accurate or fair characterization, so i can't really address this. | |
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HiinEnkelte said: noimageatall said: Exactly. Does not compute. Save the pre-nates, but send teens off to a war to die for no just reason. Absolutely illogical. Guess what? I am totally against abortion (but it's MY personal belief and I do not judge anyone else or say they're going to hell) yet I see where this makes NO SENSE! so your view about the wrongfulness or pointlessness of fighting in this war is just your personal opinion as well, without judgment? Not my personal opinion. But based on "facts" and research. Anyone today who still believes this is some kind of "just" war against terrorism has to have been living under a rock for the last 4 years. About the only 3 people on the planet who still are gung-ho about it are Bush, Cheney, and McCain. Not only "this" war. Anyone who is pro-life cannot support any war. It's insane, illogical, and contradictory. ONLY LOSERS FEAR A MORE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD~~Sananda Maitreya Beware of men that will not go down! (I wish my momma had taught me all this)-BklynBabe | |
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Stymie said: HiinEnkelte said: you might disagree with this war, and there are many respectable reasons to do so, but no soldier can wantonly just kill an unarmed combatant without severe penalty. much less intentionally kill an non-aggressing civilian. i honestly don't get what you are getting at. how am i wrong, or what wrong about based on my definition? only one side argues for making one class of humans unworthy of basic right to life simply for belonging to the class that they do. only one. of course abortion kills a living child. a human being. that's what makes an abortion an abortion and not a hysterectomy. of course i know it's legal. and championed as a right. and it remains legal only because of democrats like hillary and obama who champion it as a right and fight to keep it legal. slavery was legal once too. and people argued against it on the grounds of the integrity, right, and humanity of all. . [Edited 4/6/08 12:01pm] Welcome to the New World Odor and
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