Obama better get some REAL bodyguards

What the hell is this about?

http://www.upi.com/NewsTr...eech/8649/

Report: Security relaxed at Obama speech

Published: Feb. 21, 2008 at 6:27 PM

DALLAS, Feb. 21 (UPI) -- The Secret Service told Dallas police to stop screening for weapons while people were still arriving at a campaign rally for Barack Obama, a report said.

Police stopped checking people for weapons at the front gates of Reunion Arena more than an hour before the Democratic presidential hopeful appeared on stage Wednesday, the Fort Worth (Texas) Star-Telegram reported.

Police said the order to stop using metal detectors and checking purses and laptop bags constituted a security lapse, the newspaper reported.

Dallas Deputy Police Chief T.W. Lawrence -- who heads the department's homeland security and special operations divisions -- told the Star-Telegram the order had been intended to speed up seating of the more than 17,000 people who came to hear the candidate speak.

Lawrence said he was concerned about the large number of people being let in without being screened, but that the crowd seemed "friendly," WTH????? the newspaper said.

Several Dallas police officers -- speaking on condition of anonymity because the order came from federal officers -- told the newspaper it was worrying to see so many people get it without even a cursory inspection.

The Star-Telegram said the Secret Service did not return a call seeking comment.

Time to put in a call to the Fruit of Islam.

The Obama camp should make it a friendly gesture between the supporters for them to ask each other to see whats in there bags, or sumthing.

It may seem weird but if we cant rely on the S.S. to do their job,

then it should be made a friendly custom of devotion and demonstration to Obama

and each other to check each other like so sort of grass roots effort.

Hmmm, I'm wondering if an order from higher up has come down to be more slack in protecting Obama. If I were Obama, this would be a great concern to me, and I would be ensuring that I had extra protection. I hope someone steps up and realizes the seriousness in this lax protection and takes measures to ensure it doesn't happen again.

I've worked with Secret Service at events lust like this. I highly doubt the police story is accurate.


http://www.upi.com/NewsTr...cure/8554/


WASHINGTON, Feb. 22 (UPI) -- The U.S. Secret Service Friday denied reports that security measures at a recent Barack Obama rally in Texas were relaxed or deviated from established plans.

Secret Service spokesman Eric Zahren said there was no order from the Secret Service to stop screening people going to the Obama rally Wednesday at Dallas's Reunion Arena. He said that the event's security plans didn't involve having each participant pass through a magnetometer, as may be the case at other events.

The Fort Worth (Texas) Star-Telegram reported that some police at the event expressed concern about people not passing through metal detectors.

"Any allegations to the fact that we had suspended screening or deviated from the original security plan would be entirely inaccurate," Zahren said.

Obama, D-Ill., spoke before some 17,000 supporters at the rally ahead of the March 4 primary election in Texas. There were no security-related incidents.

While stressing that security preparations are different for each venue and event, Zahren said officials were happy with the security plan for the rally at Reunion Arena and the way it was implemented.

"This in no way constituted a security lapse at this venue," Zahren said, adding that the security measures were developed with Dallas-area law enforcement personnel to "come up with a robust and comprehensive layered security plan that didn't rely solely on any specific countermeasure to secure the area."

JellyBean said:

Mars23, the secret service are a bunch of right wing thugs.

Wave your wildsigns high!!

byronic said:

JellyBean said:

Time to put in a call to the Fruit of Islam.

and kiss any shot at the general election goodbye

JellyBean said:

byronic said:

and kiss any shot at the general election goodbye

At least we know that he will be protected.

Which has been crossing my mind lately - If he IS elected:

- Does anyone feel he should request/require more black secret servicemen around him?

- Does anyone feel the jobs of some of the white SS will be compromised and/or become available for sale?

- Do you feel a white SS man would take a bullet for a Black president?

- Are we naive to think that there aren't any racist SS?

- Will the screening/hiring process change if Obama's elected?

- Will more Black applicants get hired "just because"?

Remember, this whole thing (black presidency) would be unprecedented, so these are certainly things to definitely think about and/or consider.

byronic said:

JellyBean said:

Time to put in a call to the Fruit of Islam.

and kiss any shot at the general election goodbye

MuthaFunka said:

MuthaFunka said:[quote]

JellyBean said:

The state of our government is precarious enough wthout people trying to readily hand over a martyr to the American people by way of a killing.

Barack has also attracted so much international attention and fanfare with people listening so intently to his political ideas and plans for America, that if he suddenly turned up dead it would make us look VERY bad, and VERY two-faced in the eyes of the international community. An assasination on his part would take on the same cultural and international signifcance of Kennedy, King, Bhutto and others.
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Ottensen said:

The state of our government is precarious enough wthout people trying to readily hand over a martyr to the American people by way of a killing.

Barack has also attracted so much international attention and fanfare with people listening so intently to his political ideas and plans for America, that if he suddenly turned up dead it would make us look VERY bad, and VERY two-faced in the eyes of the international community. An assasination on his part would take on the same cultural and international signifcance of Kennedy, King, Bhutto and others.
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Graycap23 said:

Ottensen said:

The state of our government is precarious enough wthout people trying to readily hand over a martyr to the American people by way of a killing.

Barack has also attracted so much international attention and fanfare with people listening so intently to his political ideas and plans for America, that if he suddenly turned up dead it would make us look VERY bad, and VERY two-faced in the eyes of the international community. An assasination on his part would take on the same cultural and international signifcance of Kennedy, King, Bhutto and others.
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The very FACT that this conversation is on the table says it ALL.

Ottensen said:

Ottensen said:

MuthaFunka said:

Obama definitely will need protection with all these crazy ass racists in this country. Seeing an African-American holding the highest title in the nation, I'm sure some of them will be having heart attacks and calling their therapists.

http://www.truthout.org/d...508R.shtml

Dallas... and Police/CIA and Democrats dont go well together.

Nothing new and really a whole generation of Democrats Leaders were killed off because Republicans had no one to compete with, sick but true

JFK - MLK - RFK

Full Generation gone! These 3 would have change this country for the better! Imagine the 1960's & 1970's. Shit the 1980's too.. they were ALL young when their were murdered.

They couldn't compete with them
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ElectricBlue said:

Dallas... and Police/CIA and Democrats dont go well together.

Nothing new and really a whole generation of Democrats Leaders were killed off because Republicans had no one to compete with, sick but true

JFK - MLK - RFK

Full Generation gone! These 3 would have change this country for the better! Imagine the 1960's & 1970's. Shit the 1980's too.. they were ALL young when their were murdered.

They couldn't compete with them
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More of the Obama assassination porn,

which originates not on the Right,
but interestingly enough, by his worshippers on the left.

the great Mark Steyn has it so right:

"...if you’re running for president not as an unexceptional first-term senator with a thin resume but as the new Messiah, the new Kennedy, the new Gandhi, the new Martin Luther King, you can’t blame folks for leaping ahead to the next stage in the mythic narrative. Around the world, a second instant sub-genre has sprung up in which commentators speculate how long it will be before some deranged Christian-fundamentalist neo-Nazi gun-nut deprives America of its fleeting wisp of glory. Setting a new standard for fevered slavering Obama-assassination porn, Earl MacRae warned Canadians in the Ottawa Sun this week:


To be black and catapulting towards the presidency on charm, intellect, and popularity is unacceptable to the racist paranoid and scary in America the beautiful… They do not want to hear that he is a better American than they are, these right-wing extremist fascists in the land of America who no doubt believe it’s God’s will Barack Obama not get to the White House, no method of deterrence out of bounds, in their zealotry to protect and perpetuate Roy Rogers, John Wayne, Mom's apple pie, and the cross of Jesus in every home.

And you can’t protect and perpetuate Roy Rogers without a Trigger. By this point, Mr. MacRae wasn’t so much warming to his theme as typing up his first draft for Miramax: “Barack Obama is waving his arms. The crowd is cheering. I see the image I don’t want to see. I see the image that is the terrible sickness in the great republic. I see Barack Obama one minute smiling, the people crying his name. I see Barack Obama grab his chest and his eyes widen and his mouth opens and the crowd screams as Barack Obama, black candidate for the presidency of the United States of America, falls to the ground dead, an assassin’s bullet inside him.”

Er, okay. But would it help if I made you a nice cup of chamomile tea and you lie down in a darkened room for half an hour? Right now Obama’s more at risk of being taken out by traces of polonium-210 left in his hotel by a Clinton operative than by Roy Rogers saddling up for Jesus. Every president is a target for assassination, though George W. Bush is unique in having been the subject of explicit murder fantasies by so many non-right-wing non-extremist impeccably reasonable artists (the British movie Death Of A President; the novella Checkpoint by Nicholson Baker) and even the occasional straightforward exhortation: “On November 2, the entire civilized world will be praying, praying Bush loses,” wrote Charlie Brooker in London’s Guardian in 2004. “John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. — where are you now that we need you?”

Well, wherever they are, they’re probably saying: “Why bring us into it? When ol’ Lee Harvey decided it was time for JFK to get assassinated, he didn’t sit around whining, ‘John Wilkes Booth, where are you now that I need you?’ Get off your butt and do it yourself, you big Euro-ninny.” Ah, but for the armchair insurgents of the western Left, the vicarious frisson is more than delicious enough. Anything else would interfere with dinner plans.

The Bush-assassination fantasies are concocted by his political opponents and at least arise from his acts — invading the world; slaughtering 14 million Iraqi civilians or whatever it’s up to by now; shredding the constitution. By contrast, the Obama-assassination porn is written by his worshippers and testifies to one of the most palpable features of the senator’s campaign — its faintly ersatz quality, its determination to appropriate Camelot and every other mythic narrative." -my emphasis

http://article.nationalre...FiNDdmNzA=

HiinEnkelte said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:

HiinEnkelte said:

"...if you’re running for president not as an unexceptional first-term senator with a thin resume but as the new Messiah, the new Kennedy, the new Gandhi, the new Martin Luther King, you can’t blame folks for leaping ahead to the next stage in the mythic narrative.

"great" you call this sort of writing?

IrresistibleB1tch said:

HiinEnkelte said:

"...if you’re running for president not as an unexceptional first-term senator with a thin resume but as the new Messiah, the new Kennedy, the new Gandhi, the new Martin Luther King, you can’t blame folks for leaping ahead to the next stage in the mythic narrative.

"great" you call this sort of writing?

HiinEnkelte said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:

"great" you call this sort of writing?

no, I called Mark Steyn great.

XxAxX said:

IrresistibleB1tch said:

"great" you call this sort of writing?

it was a dark and stormy night....

IrresistibleB1tch said: