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If Hillary Can't Manage Her Campaign Finances How Can She Manage Our Nation? Major credibility issue here:
http://weblogs.baltimores...ma_to.html Patti Solis Doyle had been living on borrowed time as Clinton's campaign manager following the disastrous showing in Iowa and the rockiness leading up to the New Hampshire primary. "What happened today would have happened the day after New Hampshire had we lost," one source said, adding that others may soon follow Solis Doyle's departure. Initially, Clinton's former White House chief of staff, Maggie Williams, was brought in to run the campaign even though Solis Doyle was still there. The result was confusion and awkwardness for the staff, who weren't sure who was really in charge. But even more problematic was the campaign's money crunch. Over the last seven years, Clinton had raised $175 million for her reelection and her presidential campaign. But Solis Doyle didn't tell Clinton that there was next to no cash on hand until after the New Hampshire primary. "We were lying about money," a source said. "The cash on hand was nothing." In turn, Clinton didn't tell Solis Doyle that she was lending her own money to keep the campaign afloat. Solis Doyle found out third-hand. And when she asked Clinton about it, the senator told her she couldn't understand how the campaign had gotten to such a point. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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Awwww..... sounds like she is struggling. | |
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It always amazes me how much these people spend on a campaign that brings a job paying way less | |
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Not half as bad as Mitt Romney paying almost his whole campain while presenting himself as the smart business man among the candidates. "It's better 2 B hated 4 what U R than 2 B loved 4 what U R not."
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SpcMs said: Not half as bad as Mitt Romney paying almost his whole campain while presenting himself as the smart business man among the candidates.
probably why he isn't in the game anymore. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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this could be what costs her the campaign. the fact that she kept her financial woes a secret for a lengthy period of time does not bode well...already bloggers are pointing out a pattern of secrecy that can be compared to Dubya....from her health care plan, her tax returns to this she has displayed a pattern of secrecy that many seem to want ended. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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mdiver said: It always amazes me how much these people spend on a campaign that brings a job paying way less
 It's about the power they get...not the money, at least at this point. But the money will come  ."Always blessings, never losses......"
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Sowhat said: mdiver said: It always amazes me how much these people spend on a campaign that brings a job paying way less
It's about the power they get...not the money, at least at this point. But the money will come .Oh i know, there is a payback, just amazes me the lengths. | |
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First of all, that's a cheap shot IMHO. She raised a lot of money, she spent a lot of money, and she WAS on top of the money. As you pointed out, it was Hillary that loaned the campaign money, even before Solis Doyle admitted keeping information about the campaign's cash secret from Hillary.
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RodeoSchro said: First of all, that's a cheap shot IMHO. She raised a lot of money, she spent a lot of money, and she WAS on top of the money. As you pointed out, it was Hillary that loaned the campaign money, even before Solis Doyle admitted keeping information about the campaign's cash secret from Hillary.
Second, campaigns ebb and flow according to momentum. If you have momentum, you get the cash. That's why all the people that lose the first primary or two immediately bow out. No one will contribute to them any longer. If Hillary wins big in Texas and Ohio next month, she'll have more money than she knows what to do with. Same holds true for Obama. Third, a lack of money is a sign of weakness. I think we all agree that you keep signs of weakness private as much as you can. Good point. | |
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mdiver said: Sowhat said: It's about the power they get...not the money, at least at this point. But the money will come .Oh i know, there is a payback, just amazes me the lengths. Yeah but I bet there are too many unseen "perks" that comes with that kind of power to make it all worth while. But it does seem funny that candidates spend millions upon millions for job that pays $400,000 a year. "Always blessings, never losses......"
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sosgemini said: this could be what costs her the campaign. the fact that she kept her financial woes a secret for a lengthy period of time does not bode well...already bloggers are pointing out a pattern of secrecy that can be compared to Dubya....from her health care plan, her tax returns to this she has displayed a pattern of secrecy that many seem to want ended.
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RodeoSchro said: First of all, that's a cheap shot IMHO. She raised a lot of money, she spent a lot of money, and she WAS on top of the money. As you pointed out, it was Hillary that loaned the campaign money, even before Solis Doyle admitted keeping information about the campaign's cash secret from Hillary.
Second, campaigns ebb and flow according to momentum. If you have momentum, you get the cash. That's why all the people that lose the first primary or two immediately bow out. No one will contribute to them any longer. If Hillary wins big in Texas and Ohio next month, she'll have more money than she knows what to do with. Same holds true for Obama. Third, a lack of money is a sign of weakness. I think we all agree that you keep signs of weakness private as much as you can. how was she on top of the money if she didn't know leading up to New Hampshire that her campaign was broke? :confused: and your right, campaigns ebb and flow but she kept the secret of loaning money until after Super Tuesday which is evidence that she kept this a secret for political gain. Romney never kept it a secret that he was giving his campaign funds...he was upfront about it. and your right, lack of money is a sign of weakness. no disagreement there. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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new hillary commercial. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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and to compete with "yes we can" we present...well, i don't know what it is but enjoy.
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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sosgemini said: new hillary commercial.
I quite liked it!  2009: Mermaids and Dolphins... | |
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All of this talk of raising money is what makes me sick to my stomach at this system, that is bogus and corrupt and its core. We tell people that you are EQUAL no matter what money you have and then our political game shows that you can only win if you have money. As David Letterman said to Hilary Clinton when she said how much candidates had raise money wise, he said "Wouldnt it be great if that money could be put to solving actual issues instead". a-ha "foot of the mountain TOUR 2009" a-ha "Ending on a High Note Final TOUR 2010" going everywhere! |
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lastdecember said: All of this talk of raising money is what makes me sick to my stomach at this system, that is bogus and corrupt and its core. We tell people that you are EQUAL no matter what money you have and then our political game shows that you can only win if you have money. As David Letterman said to Hilary Clinton when she said how much candidates had raise money wise, he said "Wouldnt it be great if that money could be put to solving actual issues instead".
this is what i don't get...obama's campaign (and now hillary's campaign) are being fueled by grassroots power. people like you and i giving ten, fifteen and one hundred dollars... what's wrong with that? how is that bogus and corrupt? Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | |
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sosgemini said: lastdecember said: All of this talk of raising money is what makes me sick to my stomach at this system, that is bogus and corrupt and its core. We tell people that you are EQUAL no matter what money you have and then our political game shows that you can only win if you have money. As David Letterman said to Hilary Clinton when she said how much candidates had raise money wise, he said "Wouldnt it be great if that money could be put to solving actual issues instead".
this is what i don't get...obama's campaign (and now hillary's campaign) are being fueled by grassroots power. people like you and i giving ten, fifteen and one hundred dollars... what's wrong with that? how is that bogus and corrupt? It's not - but even I have to admit how disconcerting it is to hear about all these millions of dollars being batted about... and yet there is poverty and homelessness and starvation... In an ideal world - they all would be allocated x-amount to campaign and cap it - make the playing ground even.  Unrealistic, I know."I think one of the things that we're probably proudest of -- I certainly am -- is that the message was always love, in any form we portrayed it." - Paul McCartney | |
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sosgemini said: this could be what costs her the campaign. the fact that she kept her financial woes a secret for a lengthy period of time does not bode well...already bloggers are pointing out a pattern of secrecy that can be compared to Dubya....from her health care plan, her tax returns to this she has displayed a pattern of secrecy that many seem to want ended.
The only thing I'm having a problem with is that she won't be transparent about her income. I just read on Yahoo's homepage that she will release her income information IF she secures the democratic nomination  . Why wait? It makes me feel uneasy and it's evolving into a trust issue for me. I actually understand a person not wanting to show how they balance their checkbook (personally, mine is a mess), and we all have blunders we don't neccessarily want others to see. However,this is a different situation. As a taxpaying citizen, I don't think it's overstepping a boundary to know where my next possible president's income derives from. If she's got securities investsments in developing nations that (unwittingly or not) are propping up dictator regimes in southeast Asia or eastern Africa, or domestic companies that outsource or ship much needed jobs overseas, then sorry, but it affects my voting decision.
By her not sharing with us, it makes it appear more as if she has something to hide, and if not , that she's playing the entitlement game to scurry out of this, which is even worse. | |
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Well...well...a Clinton keeping secrets...who'd have thunk it? Oh wait...anyone with a memory!! | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said:[quote]Well...well...a Clinton keeping secrets...who'd have thunk it? Oh wait...anyone with a memory!! | |
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mdiver said: It always amazes me how much these people spend on a campaign that brings a job paying way less
Well for most candidates that use their own money it could be just about power. But keep in mind that after leaving office they can make millions a year on book deals and speaking engagements. Not to mention they often keep getting paid by the party. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Well...well...a Clinton keeping secrets...who'd have thunk it? Oh wait...anyone with a memory!!
How many "secrets" were brought to light during the other Clinton's administration? How much fertilizer was spread around trying to keep those secrets hidden? How many of those lies unraveled right before our eyes? I don't know about the rest of you but personally I'm sick and tired of not being able to TRUST and BELIEVE in the person that leads our nation! 1 This is untoward! This is not toward! |
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sosgemini said: new hillary commercial.
That is the greatest commercial I have ever seen! Second Funkiest White Man in America It sure is nice having adults running our government now | |
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