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Thread started 10/09/07 12:34pm

aDoveAmongVult
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Who Is Supporting Ron Paul?

Hi all.

I've been away (in Kenya) on a work project and I've missed all the latest developments here regarding the Presidential candidates (at prince.org, not in the USA in general). I realize overall Ron Paul has developed quite a network of support and I'm wondering how many of you are/have become supporters of the man.

Feel free to debate his policies amongst yourselves if you wish, but I'm just checking for a show of hands.

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Reply #1 posted 10/09/07 12:42pm

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No no and NO.

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Reply #2 posted 10/09/07 12:46pm

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Thus far he looks like the guy I'll vote for. I really like his policies of doing away with the Federal Reserve and income tax, and I like that he's talking about making medical expenses tax deductible. That, and he doesn't seem to be owned by some big corporation. cool

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Reply #3 posted 10/09/07 12:54pm

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I might. He's certainly the only Republican I'd consider.

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Reply #4 posted 10/09/07 12:57pm

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guitarslinger44 said:

Thus far he looks like the guy I'll vote for. I really like his policies of doing away with the Federal Reserve and income tax, and I like that he's talking about making medical expenses tax deductible. That, and he doesn't seem to be owned by some big corporation. cool

Are you already a registered Republican? If not, do so today.

The Republican Party is holding many, many closed elections during this primary season. That means if you're not a registered Republican, you will not be permitted to vote in the Republican Primary in your state even if you are already a registered voter.

One has to wonder why so many more states have gone the closed route this primary season? Is it just my being paranoid, that I can't help but think the party knows Ron Paul draws support from all parties and this is yet another method of preventing him from getting a majority of votes?

Ron Paul's website has a list of each state's status (closed or open) and the date by which you must register with the party. Check it out!

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Reply #5 posted 10/09/07 1:13pm

sassybritches

an emphatic wave

the only reasonable option on either side! by the way, ron paul is already breaking it down on the debates (airing on cnbc right now and repeating on msnbc at 9pm). this is the first debate about the economy...very interesting double talk from some of these fools. lol

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Reply #6 posted 10/09/07 1:34pm

foal30

I see he strongly condones America's use of torture and if elected declares to actually stop it. That is bloody good.
I think John McCain (?) is the other candidate who has announced this.

as far as free-market lunatics are concerned, Mr Paul has to be right up there with the silliest of them. There is more chance of the Easter Bunny hopping by my way then the glorious market doing anything other than consolidating endemic poverty, brokering war and violence, and all around failing 85% of Humanity.

your as free as you can afford to be may be as sick an Ideal for Living as I can imagine.

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Reply #7 posted 10/09/07 1:39pm

sassybritches

foal30 said:

I see he strongly condones America's use of torture and if elected declares to actually stop it. That is bloody good.
I think John McCain (?) is the other candidate who has announced this.

as far as free-market lunatics are concerned, Mr Paul has to be right up there with the silliest of them. There is more chance of the Easter Bunny hopping by my way then the glorious market doing anything other than consolidating endemic poverty, brokering war and violence, and all around failing 85% of Humanity.

your as free as you can afford to be may be as sick an Ideal for Living as I can imagine.

i'm guessing you meant he strongly opposes the use of torture.

as for the latter half of your comment...are you just against capitalism as a whole or its current implementation? i LOVE capitalism. i think it can be wonderful. like everything else, it must be managed ethically and responsibly. ron paul can do that.

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Reply #8 posted 10/09/07 2:20pm

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Can he beat Hillary? That's all i wanna know. Can he beat Hillary?
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Reply #9 posted 10/09/07 2:25pm

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HiinEnkelte said:

Can he beat Hillary? That's all i wanna know. Can he beat Hillary?
lol

lol he'll kick hillary's ass. he'll make her look so bad on foreign policy and economy concerns, it'll be pathetic. lol

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Reply #10 posted 10/09/07 2:25pm

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and i'm totally afraid of that new avatar, hiin.
lol

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Reply #11 posted 10/09/07 2:31pm

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sassybritches said:

and i'm totally afraid of that new avatar, hiin.
lol



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maybe he can beat hillary.
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Reply #12 posted 10/09/07 2:53pm

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when asked if they would support the republican nominee BEFORE knowing who it is (in other words, will you vote for the party and not the candidate) Ron Paul and Tancredo straight up said they WILL NOT SUPPORT the republican party nominee blindly. they will support another party if the republican nominee does not adhere to trad'l republican, trad'l conservative values.

clapping

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Reply #13 posted 10/09/07 2:57pm

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sassybritches said:

when asked if they would support the republican nominee BEFORE knowing who it is (in other words, will you vote for the party and not the candidate) Ron Paul and Tancredo straight up said they WILL NOT SUPPORT the republican party nominee blindly. they will support another party if the republican nominee does not adhere to trad'l republican, trad'l conservative values.

clapping


just recently as well, evangelicals under Dobson threatened to go third party if republicans go with guiliani.

repubs better get it together.

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Reply #14 posted 10/09/07 3:04pm

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HiinEnkelte said:

sassybritches said:

when asked if they would support the republican nominee BEFORE knowing who it is (in other words, will you vote for the party and not the candidate) Ron Paul and Tancredo straight up said they WILL NOT SUPPORT the republican party nominee blindly. they will support another party if the republican nominee does not adhere to trad'l republican, trad'l conservative values.

clapping


just recently as well, evangelicals under Dobson threatened to go third party if republicans go with guiliani.

repubs better get it together.

and ron paul, i think, will run as the libertarian candidate if he doesn't get the gop nomination. he's built too much of a following to give up. plus he'd take all those voters with him and maybe get the conservative christian vote, too. plus, many dems like him and would vote for him over hillary.

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Reply #15 posted 10/09/07 3:29pm

foal30

Ha!
yeah condemns not condones.

I got to read quite an interesting article on the present Administrations use of Torture as State Policy.It is interesting that the language they use to cover it.
very George Orwell.

I can't see him winning the nomination and he is no show of becoming President.
no I don't want Hillary either.

Capitalism must be managed ethically and responsibly. Clearly this has never been the case and coupled with Scientific Secularism we have the complete recipe for Nihilism and the worst excesses of Individualism.

besides, you think Paul is not going to fund the nuclear weapons owning terrorist/torture king state in the Middle east?

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Reply #16 posted 10/09/07 3:31pm

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He is this elections Dean nod Exciting a part of the base but will be derailed by something completely ridiculous. Make sure he doesn't get too excited at any of your gatherings or he is dust lol

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

He is this elections Dean nod Exciting a part of the base but will be derailed by something completely ridiculous. Make sure he doesn't get too excited at any of your gatherings or he is dust lol

Hillary Clinton may turn out to be this election's Howard Dean. People are very distrustful of her due to her recent (and past) Congressional voting record. If she keeps yelling at the voters who take time to show up at her rallies, she won't have many supporters come the primaries.

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Reply #18 posted 10/09/07 6:06pm

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I'm watching the debate on MSNBC and I just love when these rich white men talk about how this country is experiencing economic growth. Just because there are more millionaires in America than ever before doesn't mean the whole country is feeling this supposed growth.

These rich white men should talk to their constituents more often in order to get a grip on the reality of the required two job lifestyle in the United States.

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Reply #19 posted 10/09/07 6:08pm

sassybritches

aDoveAmongVultures said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

He is this elections Dean nod Exciting a part of the base but will be derailed by something completely ridiculous. Make sure he doesn't get too excited at any of your gatherings or he is dust lol

Hillary Clinton may turn out to be this election's Howard Dean. People are very distrustful of her due to her recent (and past) Congressional voting record. If she keeps yelling at the voters who take time to show up at her rallies, she won't have many supporters come the primaries.

lol

did you see the video of her lose it on someone in the audience. what a fool.

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Reply #20 posted 10/09/07 6:09pm

sassybritches

aDoveAmongVultures said:

I'm watching the debate on MSNBC and I just love when these rich white men talk about how this country is experiencing economic growth. Just because there are more millionaires in America than ever before doesn't mean the whole country is feeling this supposed growth.

These rich white men should talk to their constituents more often in order to get a grip on the reality of the required two job lifestyle in the United States.

ron paul is basically saying that right now! perfect timing! the poor people and middle class suffer the most, is what he's saying, while the few rich guys benefit.

clapping

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sassybritches said:

aDoveAmongVultures said:

I'm watching the debate on MSNBC and I just love when these rich white men talk about how this country is experiencing economic growth. Just because there are more millionaires in America than ever before doesn't mean the whole country is feeling this supposed growth.

These rich white men should talk to their constituents more often in order to get a grip on the reality of the required two job lifestyle in the United States.

ron paul is basically saying that right now! perfect timing! the poor people and middle class suffer the most, is what he's saying, while the few rich guys benefit.

clapping

He is the first Republican I've seen in a long time who cares about the poor and the middle class, and shows that care with his votes.

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Reply #22 posted 10/10/07 8:57pm

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I wouldn't say I'm supporting him, but I wouldn't have a heart attack and die if he were elected, which I can't say for the rest of the Republicans.

I have a very strong Libertarian streak, and agree with an awful of what Paul says. But there are some key points where I think he's way off. One of 'em: in general, I think the Libertarian position on private property rights being the way to "save the planet" is completely ridiculous. And I can see in Paul's face when he talks about it that he KNOWS it. . . not sure whether he continues to espouse it for lack of a better idea, or to toe the party line.

I also think his strict constitutionalism is interesting. I haven't thought it all the way out, but. . .at least the essense of it rings true to me. Lawmakers shouldn't be doing things that they never had the authority to do. It creates huge problems, and takes away our freedom. . . it's not democracy. shrug

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Reply #23 posted 10/10/07 11:25pm

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I wouldn't say I'm supporting him, but I wouldn't have a heart attack and die if he were elected, which I can't say for the rest of the Republicans.

I have a very strong Libertarian streak, and agree with an awful of what Paul says. But there are some key points where I think he's way off. One of 'em: in general, I think the Libertarian position on private property rights being the way to "save the planet" is completely ridiculous. And I can see in Paul's face when he talks about it that he KNOWS it. . . not sure whether he continues to espouse it for lack of a better idea, or to toe the party line.

I also think his strict constitutionalism is interesting. I haven't thought it all the way out, but. . .at least the essense of it rings true to me. Lawmakers shouldn't be doing things that they never had the authority to do. It creates huge problems, and takes away our freedom. . . it's not democracy. shrug

register republican (if you're not already) and vote for him. even if you typically support democrats, look at this as a chance to infiltrate the gop and stack the deck in your favor.

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Reply #24 posted 10/11/07 1:33am

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Please don't make it look like Ron Paul will do anything beneficial to lower or even middle class America. That's just plain emberassing.

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Reply #25 posted 10/11/07 2:03am

foal30

yes it borders on the Farcical

if a Republican was genuinely interested in providing for the lower classes they couldn't win the nomination.

instead we can expect the usual rhetoric designed to get the people to vote for Policies and Politicians whose aims the diametric opposite of what they they thought they were doing.

Reagen anybody?

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Reply #26 posted 10/11/07 5:40am

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aDoveAmongVultures said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

He is this elections Dean nod Exciting a part of the base but will be derailed by something completely ridiculous. Make sure he doesn't get too excited at any of your gatherings or he is dust lol

Hillary Clinton may turn out to be this election's Howard Dean. People are very distrustful of her due to her recent (and past) Congressional voting record. If she keeps yelling at the voters who take time to show up at her rallies, she won't have many supporters come the primaries.


Even if Hillary stumbles,it's not gonna help Ron Paul lol

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Reply #27 posted 10/11/07 6:18am

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aDoveAmongVultures said:

Hi all.

I've been away (in Kenya) on a work project and I've missed all the latest developments here regarding the Presidential candidates (at prince.org, not in the USA in general). I realize overall Ron Paul has developed quite a network of support and I'm wondering how many of you are/have become supporters of the man.

Feel free to debate his policies amongst yourselves if you wish, but I'm just checking for a show of hands.


Southern Illinoisans for Ron Paul 2008 President here..... wave

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Reply #28 posted 10/11/07 6:18am

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sassybritches said:

HereToRockYourWorld said:

I wouldn't say I'm supporting him, but I wouldn't have a heart attack and die if he were elected, which I can't say for the rest of the Republicans.

I have a very strong Libertarian streak, and agree with an awful of what Paul says. But there are some key points where I think he's way off. One of 'em: in general, I think the Libertarian position on private property rights being the way to "save the planet" is completely ridiculous. And I can see in Paul's face when he talks about it that he KNOWS it. . . not sure whether he continues to espouse it for lack of a better idea, or to toe the party line.

I also think his strict constitutionalism is interesting. I haven't thought it all the way out, but. . .at least the essense of it rings true to me. Lawmakers shouldn't be doing things that they never had the authority to do. It creates huge problems, and takes away our freedom. . . it's not democracy. shrug


register republican (if you're not already) and vote for him. even if you typically support democrats, look at this as a chance to infiltrate the gop and stack the deck in your favor.


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Reply #29 posted 10/11/07 8:32am

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Please don't make it look like Ron Paul will do anything beneficial to lower or even middle class America. That's just plain emberassing.

have you read his voting record? obviously you haven't because if you did you'd know that ron paul has voted on bills that help the blue collar worker and well as voting to INCREASE funding for section 8 housing for low-income families.

just read his record, dag. lol

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