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Does Science contradict the genesis account? Some information some may want to look at. | |
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rodman2 said: Some information some may want to look at.
ANY people claim that science disproves the Bible’s account of creation. But the real contradiction is between science and, not the Bible, but the opinions of so-called Christian Fundamentalists. Some of these groups falsely assert that according to the Bible, all physical creation was produced in six 24-hour days some 10,000 years ago. The Bible, however, does not support such a conclusion. If it did, then many scientific discoveries over the past hundred years would indeed discredit the Bible. A careful study of the Bible text reveals no conflict with established scientific facts. For that reason, Jehovah’s Witnesses disagree with “Christian” Fundamentalists and many creationists. The following shows what the Bible really teaches. The rest of the article is at the url. http://www.watchtower.org...cle_01.htm this is hardly even one of the more serious or important disagreements between JWs and creationist Christians.  [Edited 9/16/07 16:02pm] Welcome to the New World Odor and
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HiinEnkelte said: rodman2 said: Some information some may want to look at.
ANY people claim that science disproves the Bible’s account of creation. But the real contradiction is between science and, not the Bible, but the opinions of so-called Christian Fundamentalists. Some of these groups falsely assert that according to the Bible, all physical creation was produced in six 24-hour days some 10,000 years ago. The Bible, however, does not support such a conclusion. If it did, then many scientific discoveries over the past hundred years would indeed discredit the Bible. A careful study of the Bible text reveals no conflict with established scientific facts. For that reason, Jehovah’s Witnesses disagree with “Christian” Fundamentalists and many creationists. The following shows what the Bible really teaches. The rest of the article is at the url. http://www.watchtower.org...cle_01.htm this is hardly even one of the more serious or important disagreements between JWs and creationist Christians.
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rodman2 said: HiinEnkelte said: this is hardly even one of the more serious or important disagreements between JWs and creationist Christians.
[Edited 9/16/07 16:02pm] Oh well don't feel too bad, Rod, they have problems with most of the Christian World. it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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ehuffnsd said: rodman2 said: Oh well don't feel too bad, Rod, they have problems with most of the Christian World.  I gotta love you bud, thnx. | |
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rodman2 said: ehuffnsd said: don't feel too bad, Rod, they have problems with most of the Christian World. I gotta love you bud, thnx.no problem it is necessary to help others, not only in our prayers, but in our daily lives. If we find we cannot help others, the least we can do is to desist from harming them.
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rodman2 said: ehuffnsd said: don't feel too bad, Rod, they have problems with most of the Christian World. I gotta love you bud, thnx.nice to see you guys find common cause. is this one of these "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of things? 
it's all good!  Welcome to the New World Odor and
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rodman2 said: thanks I catched that on some weeks ago, but still and interesting read 
and to answer the question "Does Science contradict the Genesis account"? nope. religious truth and scientific truth are compeltely different things, so they can't possibly contradict each other. science does however contradict and disprove the weird "scientific" misinterpreataion of the Bible which Creationists subscribe to. but we shouldn't bother that much, both science and Christianity will survive that rubbish
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rodman2 said: ...Jehovah’s Witnesses... Isaiah 43 and Revelations. God only requires 2 witnesses, in accordance with his mercy and allowing the law of man to impinge, every now and then into His law, imho. I'll tell you this, though, although I think that JW's are misguided in many aspects, there are many nice ones out there who, even though they get their knickers in a bit of a twist, their hearts are in the right place.
Loads of people want to be one of these witnesses. Why? Loads want to be like Christ and not themselves. Why? Do they want to take the places and the so-called glory of these witnesses and Christ? All glory to the Father, have you not remembered? Still, imho. --------
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HiinEnkelte said: rodman2 said: I gotta love you bud, thnx.nice to see you guys find common cause. is this one of these "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of things?
it's all good! The bible teaches love your nieghbour, also says love your enemy. ehuffsnd is my way down south of me nieghbour! And maybe he can see from the article that a 24 hour creation day doesn't exist in the bible. | |
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andyf said: rodman2 said: ...Jehovah’s Witnesses... Isaiah 43 and Revelations. God only requires 2 witnesses, in accordance with his mercy and allowing the law of man to impinge, every now and then into His law, imho. I'll tell you this, though, although I think that JW's are misguided in many aspects, there are many nice ones out there who, even though they get their knickers in a bit of a twist, their hearts are in the right place.
Loads of people want to be one of these witnesses. Why? Loads want to be like Christ and not themselves. Why? Do they want to take the places and the so-called glory of these witnesses and Christ? All glory to the Father, have you not remembered? Still, imho. Thanks for the compliment, we try to live by the bible standards, imperfection can cause emotions to run amuck. Jehovah is number one , Jesus is number two. Too talk too number one you have to go through number two. I think many people want to be Witnesses because it makes sense to them. I for one have been out in the world, I've done my share of party and so on. I would say I was a nice fellow for the most, but not entirely, and I knew that in my heart. I was screwing up my life on purpose because life made no sense. I could see this global man running governmental rule going down the toilet and didn't know why. Now I know why and now my life has meaning. The witnesses are unified world round, this means much to me, I see other religions argueing over certain things within themselves and that speaks volumes to me. | |
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i have never understood why one must be deemed correct, and one incorrect.
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rodman2 said: HiinEnkelte said: nice to see you guys find common cause. is this one of these "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of things?
it's all good! The bible teaches love your nieghbour, also says love your enemy. ehuffsnd is my way down south of me nieghbour! And maybe he can see from the article that a 24 hour creation day doesn't exist in the bible. Yet it does exist in plain words. Sun up, sun down. The word "day" in Hebrew. 24 hours for the sun to come up and then set again. The very description of a 24 hour day in the Hebrew language. Yes it can mean various times but not with a description of the sun coming up and going down along with it. That watchtower article, excuse me for saying, in regards to a concise study of Genesis, is rubbish. In the Old Testament "yom" is translated to mean a 24 hour day 1109 times. It means a long, long period of time--such as an age--about nine times. Every time the word "yom" is used with the term evening or morning in the Bible, it means a regular 24 hour day. Every time the word "yom" is used with a number, such as "40 yom" (40 days), it means a regular 24 hour day. Exodus 20:10-12 (King James Version) 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Jesus himself stated that, and I quote: "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female" (Mark 10:6). Notice it says "beginning" of creation and we all know that Adam and Eve were created on day 6, the last day of creation. It's still the "beginning". "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?" (John 5:45-47)   "I am the way, the truth and the life; No man cometh unto the father, but by me." - Jesus of Nazareth (John 14:6) | |
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rodman2 said: HiinEnkelte said: nice to see you guys find common cause. is this one of these "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of things?
it's all good! The bible teaches love your nieghbour, also says love your enemy. ehuffsnd is my way down south of me nieghbour! Word! And maybe he can see from the article that a 24 hour creation day doesn't exist in the bible.
24 hours, 25 shmours. do you believe that death reigned in the world before Adam? Welcome to the New World Odor and
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Eternaldragon said: rodman2 said: The bible teaches love your nieghbour, also says love your enemy. ehuffsnd is my way down south of me nieghbour! And maybe he can see from the article that a 24 hour creation day doesn't exist in the bible. Yet it does exist in plain words. Sun up, sun down. The word "day" in Hebrew. 24 hours for the sun to come up and then set again. The very description of a 24 hour day in the Hebrew language. Yes it can mean various times but not with a description of the sun coming up and going down along with it. That watchtower article, excuse me for saying, in regards to a concise study of Genesis, is rubbish. In the Old Testament "yom" is translated to mean a 24 hour day 1109 times. It means a long, long period of time--such as an age--about nine times. Every time the word "yom" is used with the term evening or morning in the Bible, it means a regular 24 hour day. Every time the word "yom" is used with a number, such as "40 yom" (40 days), it means a regular 24 hour day. Exodus 20:10-12 (King James Version) 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Jesus himself stated that, and I quote: "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female" (Mark 10:6). Notice it says "beginning" of creation and we all know that Adam and Eve were created on day 6, the last day of creation. It's still the "beginning". "For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?" (John 5:45-47) Beginning could be the best part of a baseball game too (big inning)
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rodman2 said: andyf said: Isaiah 43 and Revelations. God only requires 2 witnesses, in accordance with his mercy and allowing the law of man to impinge, every now and then into His law, imho. I'll tell you this, though, although I think that JW's are misguided in many aspects, there are many nice ones out there who, even though they get their knickers in a bit of a twist, their hearts are in the right place.
Loads of people want to be one of these witnesses. Why? Loads want to be like Christ and not themselves. Why? Do they want to take the places and the so-called glory of these witnesses and Christ? All glory to the Father, have you not remembered? Still, imho. Thanks for the compliment, we try to live by the bible standards, imperfection can cause emotions to run amuck. Jehovah is number one , Jesus is number two. Too talk too number one you have to go through number two. I think many people want to be Witnesses because it makes sense to them. I for one have been out in the world, I've done my share of party and so on. I would say I was a nice fellow for the most, but not entirely, and I knew that in my heart. I was screwing up my life on purpose because life made no sense. I could see this global man running governmental rule going down the toilet and didn't know why. Now I know why and now my life has meaning. The witnesses are unified world round, this means much to me, I see other religions argueing over certain things within themselves and that speaks volumes to me. Satanists, in a way, could be argued as going through Christ by virtue of the fact that they are HONEST, and what you get is what you see. Many Satanists, in any case. --------
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Eternaldragon said: Sun up, sun down. The word "day" in Hebrew
boom! you just shut down your own argument... without a sun existing during the first three days there can be no "sun up, sun down" “Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.” Han Solo
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Dancelot said: Eternaldragon said: Sun up, sun down. The word "day" in Hebrew
boom! you just shut down your own argument... without a sun existing during the first three days there can be no "sun up, sun down" Genesis 1:3 "And God said, Let there be light: and there was light". BOOM! I just restarted my argument. Light, Earth spinning = sun up, sun down or light up, light down if you prefer. With light existing the first 3 days there can be sun up, sun down. Besides, the Hebrew words "Day (YOM)" appear with "an evening and a morning" which means a 24 hour period. No sun need be involved, just a source of light as we all know the Earth revolves around the sun and spins as well. Gee, I'm tricky without even trying. 
Sun, son? [Edited 9/18/07 9:34am] "I am the way, the truth and the life; No man cometh unto the father, but by me." - Jesus of Nazareth (John 14:6) | |
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It's never been a big conflict with me since I was a child, and still isn't today. Perhaps that's why I don't adhere to any particular doctrine today, because of such minor (in my mind) arguements, which make big stumbling blocks for me. Never again, not I. | |
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