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Is there a difference in using racist words/telling racist jokes and actually being a racist? For years now on the Org, I have noticed people who are not of color using the "N" word, whether it end with "ga" or "ger". I also noticed on a thread that someone mentioned hearing the word mainly from blacks, although I doubt that many black people at all use the "ger" ending.
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Baiting again, are we? | |
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Yes, there is definitely a difference. I think some people use the word either in humor or in some sort of comaraderie thing. I think that was the case with Don Imus. He obviously has done good in the world with his charity. I think some people are hyper sensitive and take things too personally.
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gemini13 said: Baiting again, are we? Absolutely not. It is an honest question that actually was meant to give some of the people here the benefit of the doubt. | |
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Lothan said: gemini13 said: Baiting again, are we? Absolutely not. It is an honest question that actually was meant to give some of the people here the benefit of the doubt.Yeah, but, you KNOW how this will go.... | |
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gemini13 said: Lothan said: Absolutely not. It is an honest question that actually was meant to give some of the people here the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah, but, you KNOW how this will go.... | |
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greenpixies said: Yes, there is definitely a difference. I think some people use the word either in humor or in some sort of comaraderie thing. I think that was the case with Don Imus. He obviously has done good in the world with his charity. I think some people are hyper sensitive and take things too personally.
So you don't think Imus is a racist? Interesting. I appreciate your perspective but I believe Imus has shown from using racial slurs time and time again that that is what is in him. Sorry if I take those slurs personally or come across as hypersensitive. An actual racist lives their life that way: racist. It isn't a passing thing for them.  | |
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I think there are micro fine lines
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Lothan said: gemini13 said: Yeah, but, you KNOW how this will go.... I hate to tell you this, but if you look in the mirror, you might see a racist. | |
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gemini13 said: Lothan said: I don't care how it goes. I posted it because I feel some of the community's members are racist and I wanted to know if they feel there is a difference in using racial terms and actually living life as a racist.
I hate to tell you this, but if you look in the mirror, you might see a racist. | |
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greenpixies said: Yes, there is definitely a difference. I think some people use the word either in humor or in some sort of comaraderie thing. I think that was the case with Don Imus. He obviously has done good in the world with his charity. I think some people are hyper sensitive and take things too personally.
An actual racist lives their life that way: racist. It isn't a passing thing for them. Don Imus may have been railroaded, but he is a racist. Mfer used to shout the N-word at black secretaries, and said nasty things about blacks who disagreed with him. He's a phony and a hack - just ask his first wife and the four daughters that he ignored. Now he's supposedly a changed man - B.S. | |
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gemini13 said: I hate to tell you this, but if you look in the mirror, you might see a racist. again - I think there are micro fine lines I think people ( all ) cross those lines without being aware ALL people |
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Lothan said: gemini13 said: I hate to tell you this, but if you look in the mirror, you might see a racist. Nope, not going there with you, I have to go to work. Let's just say that I'm not the only one who notices. | |
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Mach said: I think there are micro fine lines
Could you elaborate on this?I think people ( all ) cross those lines without being aware I also think there are large bold lines I think people ( some ) cross those lines being totally aware My Dad always taught me as a child that " one mans humor is another mans heartache " ~~~~~ | |
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gemini13 said: Lothan said: Could you explain? I can't think of a less racist person than myself.
Nope, not going there with you, I have to go to work. Let's just say that I'm not the only one who notices. 
I'd love to know if any of those who think I am the least bit racist is anyone who even knows me. I'd even love to know where I posted anything to give you the impression that I am racist. | |
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gemini13 said: Lothan said: Could you explain? I can't think of a less racist person than myself.
Nope, not going there with you, I have to go to work. Let's just say that I'm not the only one who notices.  | |
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Empress said: gemini13 said: Nope, not going there with you, I have to go to work. Let's just say that I'm not the only one who notices. | |
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Lothan said: Mach said: I think there are micro fine lines
Could you elaborate on this?I think people ( all ) cross those lines without being aware I also think there are large bold lines I think people ( some ) cross those lines being totally aware My Dad always taught me as a child that " one mans humor is another mans heartache " ~~~~~ "in using racist words/telling racist jokes" We all have different "lines" set on what we feel may be offensive or racist you may accidently cross my fine line with a "joke" I may accidently cross your fine line with a word we all have different trigger points and though we may believe 100% that we are in no way racist - at some time in our lives we have accidently crossed someone's line so ... I think there are micro fine lines I think people ( all ) cross those lines without being aware |
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Lothan said: gemini13 said: Nope, not going there with you, I have to go to work. Let's just say that I'm not the only one who notices.
I'd love to know if any of those who think I am the least bit racist is anyone who even knows me. I'd even love to know where I posted anything to give you the impression that I am racist. OK, really quickly....there are so many other topics to post about, yet you are somehow fixated on black and white issues. You seemingly don't like white girls who fit the "ideal" type, and appear to have a large chip on your shoulders about it. Post about something else for a change, it gets old watching you whine about perceived hurts and insults. | |
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Mach said: Lothan said: Could you elaborate on this?
"in using racist words/telling racist jokes" We all have different "lines" set on what we feel may be offensive or racist you may accidently cross my fine line with a "joke" I may accidently cross your fine line with a word we all have different trigger points and though we may believe 100% that we are in no way racist - at some time in our lives we have accidently crossed someone's line so ... I think there are micro fine lines I think people ( all ) cross those lines without being aware Do you believe in using these terms that it makes a person racist? | |
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Lothan said: Thank you Mach.
Do you believe in using these terms that it makes a person racist? I am not sure I understand your question. Could you trem it a different way ? |
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Mach said: Lothan said: Thank you Mach.
Do you believe in using these terms that it makes a person racist? I am not sure I understand your question. Could you trem it a different way ? | |
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Lothan said: Mach said: I am not sure I understand your question. Could you trem it a different way ? I would not assume it does though it may - looking into their past and watching their future actions/words may be a better thing to do then just throw down the racist trump card When I 1st joined the Org I posted a rather lighthearted "joke" and someone came unglued calling me a racist  - before that I had never thought myself as one
So I looked at it through their eyes and could see how they may have thought that and learned and grew from the experience I do not feel I am nor see myself as a racist - but one day I crossed a micro line and another person saw me as one  |
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Mach said: Lothan said: Could you elaborate on this?
"in using racist words/telling racist jokes" We all have different "lines" set on what we feel may be offensive or racist you may accidently cross my fine line with a "joke" I may accidently cross your fine line with a word we all have different trigger points and though we may believe 100% that we are in no way racist - at some time in our lives we have accidently crossed someone's line so ... I think there are micro fine lines I think people ( all ) cross those lines without being aware  Welcome to the New World Odor and
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Lothan said: Mach said: I am not sure I understand your question. Could you trem it a different way ? No, it might just be a way for that person to be mean or hurtful to another. Like calling a fat woman a cow or a beached whale. Incredibly, one doesn't have to be racist to be an asshole. may u live 2 see the dawn | |
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dseann said: Lothan said: If someone uses a racial slur, does it make them racist?
No, it might just be a way for that person to be mean or hurtful to another.Like calling a fat woman a cow or a beached whale. Incredibly, one doesn't have to be racist to be an asshole. | |
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you know my schpiel on this - it's all about intent.
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Anxiety said: you know my schpiel on this - it's all about intent.
Thanks Chris.
do i think a suburban white kid sounds like a complete dumbass using the word when he's trying to sound all "street hard"? - um, YEAH. 
am i gonna throw out my betty davis CDs because she says the "N" word in a couple of songs? - um, what do YOU think. 
do i think kevin smith is brilliant in the way he satirizes race issues, even though it means he employs "racist language" in his scripts? - i think he's brilliant at it. 
it's all about knowing what the hell it is that's coming out of your mouth and why you're saying it. intent. context. I am curious as to whether you havde witnessed any of the behavior I mentioned in my first post and if you have: what do you think the Orgers' intent is? | |
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Anxiety said: you know my schpiel on this - it's all about intent.
do i think a suburban white kid sounds like a complete dumbass using the word when he's trying to sound all "street hard"? - um, YEAH.
am i gonna throw out my betty davis CDs because she says the "N" word in a couple of songs? - um, what do YOU think.
do i think kevin smith is brilliant in the way he satirizes race issues, even though it means he employs "racist language" in his scripts? - i think he's brilliant at it.
it's all about knowing what the hell it is that's coming out of your mouth and why you're saying it. intent. context. Welcome to the New World Odor and
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dseann said: Lothan said: If someone uses a racial slur, does it make them racist?
No, it might just be a way for that person to be mean or hurtful to another. Like calling a fat woman a cow or a beached whale. Incredibly, one doesn't have to be racist to be an asshole.
a-hole would be the larger category, wouldn't it? which just may manifest itself here as racism, there as ageism, there sexism, or there again as elitism, classism, overweightism, notattractivism, etc... whatever harmless difference is a convenient scapegoat for your sorry inadequacies. [Edited 7/11/07 8:41am] Welcome to the New World Odor and
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