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It is time to focus and get motivated: Bush's crimes severe enough to warrant impeachment

Bush's crimes severe enough to warrant impeachment
Steve Morris

Issue date: 2/7/07

Over the past six years as president, George W. Bush has attempted to guide our nation through perilous times. Prior to 9/11, Americans like you and I witnessed horrible acts of terrorism occurring in other countries on CNN, but believed that we ourselves were far removed from the impact of these attacks.

In the aftermath of 9/11, the American public's invulnerable sense of tranquility and security had been shattered. For the first time since the attack on Pearl Harbor, genuine fear swept throughout the nation.

If there is one positive that we as American citizens can take out of the 9/11 atrocities, it is this: In the weeks and months that followed the attacks, the American public united as one. During this "unipolar moment," Bush was confronted with a choice: to pursue policies, which would ensure that the nation remained united and secure, or to allow his personal predilections to override the national interest in protecting the citizens of our great country.

To my personal dismay, it is clear that our president has neglected the former course of action in favor of the latter. In performing his duty as president to faithfully execute the laws of the nation, Bush has effectively marginalized individual rights in the name of providing for national security.

While it may be necessary for the president to assume increased powers during wartime, the Constitution forbids the president from being provided with a blank check to do as he pleases. Due to Bush's active circumvention of numerous national and international laws in conducting the War on Terror, the Democratic Congress has several grounds with which to bring up impeachment charges against Bush.

First, Bush knowingly misled the nation into an unnecessary war with Iraq by at best distorting (and at worst outright lying) about the evidence of weapons of mass destruction possessed by Saddam Hussein. The administration's two primary sources for believing that Saddam possessed these weapons were Ahmed Chalabi and an informant codenamed Curveball.

Chalabi, leader of the Iraqi National Congress, provided the bulk of the evidence that the administration relied on in the run up to the war. Furthermore, Chalabi informed the administration that once the American troops reached Baghdad, an underground army of over 100,000 Iraqis would rise up and join them.

However, none of this intelligence turned out to be true. The intelligence provided by Curveball, an Iraqi defector, was immediately discredited by CIA analysts. A week after the intelligence was discredited by the CIA, Bush continued to rely on the faulty intelligence, as evidenced by his reference to Curveball during one of his speeches.

Thus, the administration's reluctance to conduct an adequate inquiry into the validity of these two primary sources of intelligence goes to show that Bush had made up his mind about the war long before the attacks of 9/11. Bush effectively molded the weak evidence he had in order to justify finishing the war which his father had started a decade before.

Second, Bush's warrantless eavesdropping program is a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment. The amendment explicitly states that no search can be conducted unless it is pursuant to a warrant. Realizing that under extraordinary circumstances it would be necessary for the government to conduct a search prior to obtaining a warrant, Congress enacted the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act in 1978. This act allows the government to initially wiretap without a warrant and then obtain one within 72 hours before a judge.

Bush refused to adhere to the provisions of this act by refraining from even retroactively obtaining these warrants. Bush's justification for doing so is that he believes the act to be outdated. Simply because the president disagrees with a law does not give him the authority to nullify it. If Bush wants the law changed, then he has only one course of action under the Constitution: to lobby Congress to amend it.

Last month, Bush announced in a memo that he has the right to open up any piece of first class mail which he so desires. This arbitrary infringement on the privacy rights of ordinary American citizens is unprecedented in a country supposedly founded on democratic principles.

Third, Bush has created military tribunals to try terrorists which violate the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendments and the Geneva Conventions. Any person labeled an enemy combatant by Bush can be held in prison indefinitely. Furthermore, enemy combatants lose their right to see the evidence against them and thus have no method with which to attempt to undermine that evidence in court. This arbitrary judicial system inverts the usual American system of justice based on the rule of law.

While my opponents may try to undermine my argument by stating that these enemy combatants are "bad" people and effectively view them as guilty until proven innocent, in reality this is not so. We need to remember that these people are not terrorists; they are suspected terrorists.

One example of the arbitrary nature of this system can be seen in the case of Nazer Gul. After experiencing immense pain from an infected molar, Gul (a Pakistani baker) spent the night in a doctor's office located in Afghanistan. On a tip provided by the Pakistani government, Gul was arrested during a raid of the doctor's office during the middle of the night. During his two years at Guantanamo, Gul was not charged. In 2004, the U.S. government discovered that it had mistaken Gul for someone else, an Afghan military commander named Chaman Gul. Even after this was discovered, the U.S. government still refused to release Gul for another year.

Finally, Bush has condoned the use of torture during interrogation proceedings. After the systematic abuse of the Abu Ghraib prison scandal, Bush attempted to distance himself from the actions of what he described as a few unruly soldiers.

However, as evidenced by a Justice Department memo approved by Bush which stated that physical torture could be used by interrogators as long as their primary goal was to elicit incriminating information, Bush was at least partially responsible for what happened at Abu Ghraib. Furthermore, when a Senate Appropriations bill was placed on his desk in December 2005, Bush signed the bill with a catch; he illegally suspended an amendment to the bill which stated that the United States must abide by the Geneva Conventions when conducting the interrogation of foreign prisoners.

Thus, while Bush himself may not have directly condoned torture, he at least laid down the framework for the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib to occur. Furthermore, by refusing to adhere to the torture provisions of the Geneva Convention, Bush has effectively invalidated the treaty.

The danger is that this treaty serves as the only tangible protection for our brave troops when they are captured abroad by our enemies. If our own government is unwilling to abide by its terms, then why would our enemies when they capture our troops?

Besides these four aforementioned examples, there are several other reasons for the House to impeach Bush in the near future. These include violating separation of powers by issuing presidential signing statements, helping to disclose the name of a secret CIA operative and several other "high crimes and misdemeanors."

The only way to restore our credibility in the international community is for Congress to impeach Bush. Even though it is unlikely that he will be removed from office by the Senate, impeachment can serve as a symbolic gesture to the rest of the world that the vast majority of American citizens do not adhere to the "principles" articulated by our leader.

If President Bill Clinton could be impeached for simply getting a blow job in the Oval Office, I think it would be appropriate to impeach Bush as well for allowing 3,000 courageous Americans to die in a war that he led us into under false pretenses.
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Reply #1 posted 02/07/07 12:28pm

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thumbs up!

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Reply #2 posted 02/07/07 12:31pm

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c'mon people, we have to wake up now and do something while we still can!

votetoimpeach.org
(thanks adisa)

as of right now, there are more than 852,635 signatures.

it is time to put your foot down and use your voice!



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Reply #3 posted 02/07/07 12:32pm

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It's so absolutely obvious even Helen Keller could see the light. If a blowjob is impeachable, so is lying our way into war.

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Reply #4 posted 02/07/07 12:38pm

Stymie

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It's so absolutely obvious even Helen Keller could see the light. If a blowjob is impeachable, so is lying our way into war.
Not only that, but backdooring his way into a war with Iran. He knows damn well Congress will not give him the okay, so he does all kinds of illegal shit.

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Reply #5 posted 02/07/07 12:42pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It's so absolutely obvious even Helen Keller could see the light. If a blowjob is impeachable, so is lying our way into war.


yes! absolutely!

we have to do this. we can not afford to play dead for another two years. the people are saying they do not approve of his command on the war, and WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING! i know i said impeachment was a bad idea when it came up the first time right after the election, but i was wrong. two years is a long time for him to fuck it up waaaay more.

we have to act!

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Reply #6 posted 02/07/07 12:44pm

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Stymie said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It's so absolutely obvious even Helen Keller could see the light. If a blowjob is impeachable, so is lying our way into war.
Not only that, but backdooring his way into a war with Iran. He knows damn well Congress will not give him the okay, so he does all kinds of illegal shit.


absolutely!

did you sign? richard, did you sign?

i need your help. we have to get people moving on this. we can't sit and wait for congress to make the right decision, they are going to drag their feet out of fear unless we motivate them.

we can not be distracted by these side issues anymore. we have to do something.
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Reply #7 posted 02/07/07 1:39pm

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i refuse to believe the only people that care about america and the world in general are three gay people and adisa.

hmm

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Reply #8 posted 02/07/07 1:52pm

Abrazo

cborgman said:

we can't sit and wait for congress to make the right decision, they are going to drag their feet out of fear unless we motivate them.


what fear? they are thinking the next presidentials!

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Reply #9 posted 02/07/07 1:52pm

Abrazo

cborgman said:

i refuse to believe the only people that care about america and the world in general are three gay people and adisa.

hmm

I care too.

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Reply #10 posted 02/07/07 1:53pm

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cborgman said:

i refuse to believe the only people that care about america and the world in general are three gay people and adisa.

hmm

comfort People expect things to "just work out" somehow. That and they're more concerned with anything associated with Hollyweird.

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Reply #11 posted 02/07/07 2:03pm

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Abrazo said:

cborgman said:

we can't sit and wait for congress to make the right decision, they are going to drag their feet out of fear unless we motivate them.


what fear? they are thinking the next presidentials!


that too.

and we don't have time for that bullshit.

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Reply #12 posted 02/07/07 2:04pm

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Abrazo said:

cborgman said:

i refuse to believe the only people that care about america and the world in general are three gay people and adisa.

hmm

I care too.


i know you do.

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Reply #13 posted 02/07/07 2:04pm

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Adisa said:

cborgman said:

i refuse to believe the only people that care about america and the world in general are three gay people and adisa.

hmm

comfort People expect things to "just work out" somehow. That and they're more concerned with anything associated with Hollyweird.

Here is a big FUCK YOU from the rest of the world to all those. Please pass the message.

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Reply #14 posted 02/07/07 2:05pm

Abrazo

cborgman said:

Abrazo said:


what fear? they are thinking the next presidentials!


that too.

and we don't have time for that bullshit.

it's always about the next elections.

numbers are crucial

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Reply #15 posted 02/07/07 2:13pm

Stymie

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i refuse to believe the only people that care about america and the world in general are three gay people and adisa.

hmm
I'm only half gay. lol

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Stymie said:

cborgman said:

i refuse to believe the only people that care about america and the world in general are three gay people and adisa.

hmm
I'm only half gay. lol


i know, but two gay guys, a bisexual woman, and adisa sounded too much like a sitcom

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Reply #17 posted 02/07/07 3:48pm

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cborgman said:

Stymie said:

I'm only half gay. lol


i know, but two gay guys, a bisexual woman, and adisa sounded too much like a sitcom

See, if we started a reality tv show about this imagine the gains we'd make.
We could go picketing and get arrested by Latoya, but Ivy secretly has the hidden idol. Supa didn't lose any weight, so I voted for him to go kick the hell out of Bush. woot! We'd be doing our country a service and get the chanceto win a million dollars.

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Reply #18 posted 02/07/07 3:49pm

Stymie

Adisa said:

cborgman said:



i know, but two gay guys, a bisexual woman, and adisa sounded too much like a sitcom

See, if we started a reality tv show about this imagine the gains we'd make.
We could go picketing and get arrested by Latoya, but Ivy secretly has the hidden idol. Supa didn't lose any weight, so I voted for him to go kick the hell out of Bush. woot! We'd be doing our country a service and get the chanceto win a million dollars.
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Reply #19 posted 02/07/07 7:18pm

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Adisa said:

cborgman said:



i know, but two gay guys, a bisexual woman, and adisa sounded too much like a sitcom

See, if we started a reality tv show about this imagine the gains we'd make.
We could go picketing and get arrested by Latoya, but Ivy secretly has the hidden idol. Supa didn't lose any weight, so I voted for him to go kick the hell out of Bush. woot! We'd be doing our country a service and get the chanceto win a million dollars.


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Reply #20 posted 02/07/07 10:55pm

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All his "administration" should be tried 4 CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY

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signed, & passing the link around. smile

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Reply #22 posted 02/07/07 11:04pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It's so absolutely obvious even Helen Keller could see the light. If a blowjob is impeachable, so is lying our way into war.



Your beloved Clinton/Gore admin was telling the same lies. In fact, it is Clinton that put it in as policy to have a regime change in Iraq.

There is no proof that Bush lied and congress/senate voted the war in.

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Reply #23 posted 02/08/07 12:38am

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Reply #24 posted 02/08/07 1:53am

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seekingtruth said:

Your beloved Clinton/Gore admin


Sigh... Man, your lot are STOOPID. We didn't like them either, but at least they weren't as bad as your lot. Worst Congress of all time, even beating the legendary/infamous "do nothing" Congress: YOUR LOT. Worst president ever: YOUR LOT. Worst invasion/occupation ever: YOUR LOT.

When will YOUR LOT finally shut the fuck up? Finally admit to being wrong 100% all of the time? Finally take responsibility?

seekingtruth said:

was telling the same lies. In fact, it is Clinton that put it in as policy to have a regime change in Iraq.


But HE DID NOT INVADE THEM. Illegal bombing raids, sure, but NO INVASION. NO OCCUPATION. Stick to the FACTS. Oh wait, you're a RepubliCON, facts have no role in your worldview.

seekingtruth said:

There is no proof that Bush lied


Yes there is. CIA took out the Niger claim each time, White House snuck it back in each time (2003 State Of The Union). The Niger papers were BLATANT FORGERIES, most likely the work of the Italian secret service with the help of Michael Ledeen (one of those guys who pops up EVERYWHERE).

Powell's entire UN speech: lie lie lie lie.

seekingtruth said:

and congress/senate voted the war in.


No they didn't.

Please show me the decleration of war. And no "they attacked us" BS.

3000+ dead US soldiers, tens of thousands casualties (and a recent report revealed the US army is deliberately UNDERREPORTING the number of US casualties), hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and YOUR LOT still can't admit to being incompetent.

But what else to expect from a bunch of chickenshit yellowbellies who like to wage war but refuse to serve ("not for our kind of people")?

BTW In the recent state of the nation speech ebfore Congress Bush lied FOUR TIMES about foiled terrorist plots. But I guess that's Clinton's fault too, right?

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Reply #25 posted 02/08/07 3:45am

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seekingtruth said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It's so absolutely obvious even Helen Keller could see the light. If a blowjob is impeachable, so is lying our way into war.



Your beloved Clinton/Gore admin was telling the same lies. In fact, it is Clinton that put it in as policy to have a regime change in Iraq.

There is no proof that Bush lied and congress/senate voted the war in.



So that's your only defense? "Clinton did it too" so it's alright? I thought you Republicans were supposed to be morally superior to those damn liberals,lol.

And for the record,Bush did lie about the reasons for war.Most of America knows this.

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Abrazo

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seekingtruth said:




Your beloved Clinton/Gore admin was telling the same lies. In fact, it is Clinton that put it in as policy to have a regime change in Iraq.

There is no proof that Bush lied and congress/senate voted the war in.



So that's your only defense? "Clinton did it too" so it's alright? I thought you Republicans were supposed to be morally superior to those damn liberals,lol.

And for the record,Bush did lie about the reasons for war.Most of America knows this.


Morally superior?

The are so morally superior, they even compare themselves to saddam. "But, but, but, the torture was much worse under Saddam!"

But people like you believe you can "work together"

disbelief

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Reply #27 posted 02/08/07 6:36am

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missmad said:

All his "administration" should be tried 4 CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY


ABSOLUTELY!

did you sign?

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evenstar3 said:

signed, & passing the link around. smile


you ROCK!
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Reply #29 posted 02/08/07 6:37am

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seekingtruth said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It's so absolutely obvious even Helen Keller could see the light. If a blowjob is impeachable, so is lying our way into war.



Your beloved Clinton/Gore admin was telling the same lies. In fact, it is Clinton that put it in as policy to have a regime change in Iraq.

There is no proof that Bush lied and congress/senate voted the war in.


rolleyes

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